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categories content in smart content still appears in "lost and found"

mricmric Posts: 8
in Daz Studio Discussion

Hello ladies and gents

I organize my content to remove it from "lost and found" in smart content.

But some keep coming back to "lost and found". In this example files are categorized to "lost and found" _plus_ to other categories.

I delete them from "lost and found" then save.

But they keep reappearing in "lost and found".

Any clue ?

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  • the_untoldthe_untold Posts: 6
    If the Item has no meta data this could be the issue.
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,784

    Are you working with Daz Studio online?

  • mricmric Posts: 8

    I am working with DIM

    and my product have meta data as seen in the screenshot above

    also another product that I got recently (contrary to V4 above)

    It has metadata, and I checked all its items, none is in Lost and Found, but the product is present in Lost and Found

    ... like 2/3 of my products  crying

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,784

    You are also working online in Daz Studio, so it is updating the emtadata from the Daz servers.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024
    edited December 2022

    But you are still logging in to DS, which means the DAZ Connect inside DS is frequently 'updating' your metadata and often makes a mess of it.

    Uncheck "Show Login Page" and "Automatically Login With Remembered Credentials" at DS Preferences

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,483

    The original metadata for this product does not assign every asset to a category, only the DAZ Studio format assets (the materials presets, and a set of 10 poses). 

  • mricmric Posts: 8

    PerttiA said:

    But you are still logging in to DS, which means the DAZ Connect inside DS is frequently 'updating' your metadata and often makes a mess of it.

    Uncheck "Show Login Page" and "Automatically Login With Remembered Credentials" at DS Preferences

    Thank you PerttiA I modified my params.

     

    NorthOf45 said:

    The original metadata for this product does not assign every asset to a category, only the DAZ Studio format assets (the materials presets, and a set of 10 poses). 

    I may not understand because when I check category for all files I see a category for each one and none is Lost and Found.

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  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    mric said:

    PerttiA said:

    But you are still logging in to DS, which means the DAZ Connect inside DS is frequently 'updating' your metadata and often makes a mess of it.

    Uncheck "Show Login Page" and "Automatically Login With Remembered Credentials" at DS Preferences

    Thank you PerttiA I modified my params.

     

    NorthOf45 said:

    The original metadata for this product does not assign every asset to a category, only the DAZ Studio format assets (the materials presets, and a set of 10 poses). 

    I may not understand because when I check category for all files I see a category for each one and none is Lost and Found.

    It is probably due to DAZ Connect having 'updated' the metadata - It is not the same metadata that DIM updates and it is not stored in the same location = One reason for problems people are having with 'Smart' Content.

  • LindseyLindsey Posts: 1,999
    edited December 2022

    Edit> Preferences> Content = Is "Show Hidden Vendor Categorizations" UNCHECKED?

    When you remove a vendor categorization (uncheck) and reassign a new category, Daz Studio flags that vendor categorization to not display when this setting is UNCHECKED. 

    If you bring the asset into the Content DB Editor, you will still see the vendor categorization, but if you select the asset>right click and select Categorize, the vendor categorization will not be displayed.

    Edit:  And the vendor categorization shouldn't display on the Smart Content tab category, but you will still see the vendor categorization in the Categories library. This "feature" was added after Daz Studio 4.9.2.70 to prevent an asset from having no category (is my best guess) as I could permanently remove vendor categories in Daz Studio 4.9.2.70.  

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  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,483

     

    NorthOf45 said:

    The original metadata for this product does not assign every asset to a category, only the DAZ Studio format assets (the materials presets, and a set of 10 poses). 

    I may not understand because when I check category for all files I see a category for each one and none is Lost and Found.

    Sorry, I was referring to the original post, about V4.2 Base. Parker Road is another product, and another, unrelated, story. The older Poser formats generally do not have metadata, unless a Studio version was made (usually later), even then, it might or might not include the Poser format files, just the DAZ Studio formats. I hope that the metadata we get with DIM is IDENTICAL (at least functionally) to that from Connect. That was the promise.

    I see in the screen caps from the first post that you do not have "Sync Product and Local Database" checked. In that case some information will not be saved. Also, do you have "Auto Export" checked (bottom of the dialog)? If so, changes will be saved to a new metadata file in the Runtime/Support folder. If you had previously accepted the changes with Auto-Export checked, the Lost and Found category would have been included, and will always return, because the metadata file is considered Vendor Data (as opposed to User Data). You can edit the existing metadata file to see if it explicitly sets a category to Lost and Found ([library]/Runtime/Support/DAZ_3D_4783_Victoria_4_2_Base.dsx).

    To permanently remove the Lost and Found, the new metadata file (with the Lost and Found category removed) must be exported and re-imported (from DIM, or from Content DB Maintenance). It is the only way I have found to permanently remove vendor data once a product is installed. You can also replace the metadata file in the product package and re-install the product.

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    NorthOf45 said:

     I hope that the metadata we get with DIM is IDENTICAL (at least functionally) to that from Connect. 

     

    The metadata DAZ Connect downloads and 'updates', is saved in the 'Cloud' folder, and the metadata from DIM is saved in 'Runtime\Support' = They can be different and conflicting

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,483

    PerttiA said:

    NorthOf45 said:

     I hope that the metadata we get with DIM is IDENTICAL (at least functionally) to that from Connect. 

     

    The metadata DAZ Connect downloads and 'updates', is saved in the 'Cloud' folder, and the metadata from DIM is saved in 'Runtime\Support' = They can be different and conflicting

    I know where it goes. There should be no difference in the contents. 

  • PerttiAPerttiA Posts: 10,024

    NorthOf45 said:

    PerttiA said:

    NorthOf45 said:

     I hope that the metadata we get with DIM is IDENTICAL (at least functionally) to that from Connect. 

     

    The metadata DAZ Connect downloads and 'updates', is saved in the 'Cloud' folder, and the metadata from DIM is saved in 'Runtime\Support' = They can be different and conflicting

    I know where it goes. There should be no difference in the contents. 

    History has proven otherwise 

  • NorthOf45NorthOf45 Posts: 5,483

    PerttiA said:

    NorthOf45 said:

    PerttiA said:

    NorthOf45 said:

     I hope that the metadata we get with DIM is IDENTICAL (at least functionally) to that from Connect. 

     

    The metadata DAZ Connect downloads and 'updates', is saved in the 'Cloud' folder, and the metadata from DIM is saved in 'Runtime\Support' = They can be different and conflicting

    I know where it goes. There should be no difference in the contents. 

    History has proven otherwise 

    Yes, it has, from what I understand, to many users' chagrin. I have never touched Connect, so I have never had the pleasure.

  • mricmric Posts: 8

    Thank you for your advice.To be honest I have not understood everything.

     

    Regarding

    I organize my content to remove it from "lost and found" in smart content.

    But some keep coming back to "lost and found". In this example files are categorized to "lost and found" _plus_ to other categories.

    I did not encounter this issue since.

    Following your advice I have Edit> Preferences> Content = Is "Show Hidden Vendor Categorizations" => UNCHECKED

     

    Regarding the fact many products are in L&F folder, I have started to categorize them and most of them are old content without categorization.

    I am working with DIM

    and my product have meta data as seen in the screenshot above

    It has metadata, and I checked all its items, none is in Lost and Found, but the product is present in Lost and Found

    Typically those products have a folder in "content library > categories > Lost&Found" .

    When I make sure the "content library > categories > Lost&Found > product folder" is empty (categorize then refresh).

    When I delete that "content library > categories > Lost&Found > product folder" then the product disapears from  "smart content > Lost&Found".

     

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