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I wish Daz make this input device

JamesJames Posts: 1,026
in Daz Studio Discussion

I imagine an input device with three dials. Because all of daz genesis joints have 2-3 dials.
So we can change the genesis joint rotation just by turning each dials.
Wouldn't that make life easier?

well, ideally it would be a manequin which we can pose it, like Celsys robot.

 

 

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  • SofaCitizenSofaCitizen Posts: 1,881

    Not sure Daz are gonna move into the hardware market but you can try these guys: https://monogramcc.com

    Seems like the kind of thing you are looking for - no idea if it will work well with Daz tho.

  • JamesJames Posts: 1,026

    Wow, just like I imagine. But can it work with Daz though?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204

    there is a thread using an Elgato streaming device in DAZ

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/522601/daz-studio-visual-menus-and-elgato-stream-decks

  • JamesJames Posts: 1,026
    edited December 2022

    @SofaCitizen
    @WendyLuvsCatz
    Hemm.. maybe they can integrate daz with a smartphone, and basically shows their joint dials/slider onto the smartphone screen.
    That would be a simple and cheap solution.

    Post edited by James on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204

    SofaCitizen said:

    Not sure Daz are gonna move into the hardware market but you can try these guys: https://monogramcc.com

    Seems like the kind of thing you are looking for - no idea if it will work well with Daz tho.

    I clicked on that link out of curiosity and now I am getting sponsored ads from them on Facebook angry 

  • SofaCitizenSofaCitizen Posts: 1,881

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I clicked on that link out of curiosity and now I am getting sponsored ads from them on Facebook angry 

    Sorry about that :( I don't really use Facebook so don't notice these things. Perhaps this link will reset your ad preferences?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204

    SofaCitizen said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    I clicked on that link out of curiosity and now I am getting sponsored ads from them on Facebook angry 

    Sorry about that :( I don't really use Facebook so don't notice these things. Perhaps this link will reset your ad preferences?

    is OK, just annoyed at them, Facebook and their sneaky cookies 

    not you

    if I didn't get those ads I would get something else totally irrelevant anyway so no big deal

    cat based business always welcome heart

  • JamesJames Posts: 1,026

    It seems someone has thought about this idea a long ago.

    www.pilning.net/index.html

    He has the plugin to work with a hardware device - Korg Nanocontroller 2. Somekind of a midi device.
    But will it work for DAZ 4.21?

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,051

    You could theoretically map a SpaceMouse to do this, although I've heard that DS has pretty poor SpaceMouse integration.

  • JamesJames Posts: 1,026

    Spacemouse expensive sive sive sive.....

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,051

    ekajuan_9f765a669b said:

    Spacemouse expensive sive sive sive.....

    Most individual Monogram modules cost more than the one I linked, yet you didn't comment about how expensive those are.

  • cgidesigncgidesign Posts: 442
    edited December 2022

    Maybe https://www.tourboxtech.com can do that ?

    I don't k now if one can map DS's rotation controls to short cuts. I use that tool only for image editing software so far.

    Regarding space mouse. There was a communication from a forum user with 3dconnexion in the past and they tried DS. Their answer was that DS uses the space mouse api in a wrong way and thats the reason why it works poorly. This information was posted in a support ticket to DAZ but according to the release notes nothing has changed since then.

    Post edited by cgidesign on
  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,940
    edited December 2022

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    SofaCitizen said:

    Not sure Daz are gonna move into the hardware market but you can try these guys: https://monogramcc.com

    Seems like the kind of thing you are looking for - no idea if it will work well with Daz tho.

    I clicked on that link out of curiosity and now I am getting sponsored ads from them on Facebook angry 

    FireFox has this feature now but I don't know if it will block that kind of thing:


     

     

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  • JamesJames Posts: 1,026
    edited December 2022
     

    Most individual Monogram modules cost more than the one I linked, yet you didn't comment about how expensive those are.

    Yea... true.
    Because my brain already ingrain that expensive label to Spacemouse longer than monogram. hahaha...
    It's just automatic.

     I want to try using the KORG midi. I have tried to reach out the plugin developer, but got no response yet.

    The video of how to use it. Isn't clear.

    Post edited by James on
  • bshugs@hotmail.combshugs@hotmail.com Posts: 176

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    there is a thread using an Elgato streaming device in DAZ

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/522601/daz-studio-visual-menus-and-elgato-stream-decks

    Thanks for the shout out, WendyLuvsCatz :-)

    I'm eyeing the Streamdeck+ as a great way to spin dials and rotate in Daz.  I've tried a Spacemouse (Great for moving cameras but laggy and jumping for posing) and a Razer Tartarus (works, but the joystick/wheel isn't intuitive.  I think the Streamdeck+ would be awesome.  I see two ways to do this:

    • Calling scripts:  This is what I do with the Tartarus right now (when I think to use it).  Basically each 'click' on the joystick or wheel calls a keyboard shortcut mapped to a script that increments one of the 3 rotations.  This works, but takes a long time to set up between creating scripts, setting up custom actions and keyboard shortcuts.  It's also only one-way (that is, from the controller to Daz)
    • Plug-in: This is what I want to do, and what I did with @esemwy for the Streamdeck plugins ( https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/526531/elgato-stream-deck-plugin-for-daz-studio-alpha-ish ).  Install a plug-in in Daz Studio that listens to a port.  The Streamdeck sends a message every time you twist a dial and the plug-in rotates the node.  In a truly awesome world, the plug-in would send back the current value of that node to the Streamdeck to update the lcd display.  It would also trigger when nodes were changed to update the display.  Now what to do with the last dial?  Either a 'sensitivity dial' or something that spins the currently selected parameter.  Again with feedback.

    So, why haven't I written it?  I could probably kludge out an alpha of the Streamdeck side in about a week, but the plug-in side is the problem.  My C programming skills are poor, but might be able to some of it, however setting up the SDK seems impossible without some advanced knowledge and the Forums are silent on it.  I've tried for ages to get anyone to explain how to get the Daz SDK installed and compiling in Visual Studio ... or any other IDE.

    Want to help?  If you know how to write and compile Daz Studio plug-ins you can either (1) DM me to see about collaborating like esemwy and I did or (2) DM and give me some advice on setting up the IDE.  Once I can compiles omething like "Hello World" I can probably get a Streamdeck plug-in working.

    Now that Elgato has released a Streamdeck+ SDK, I plan to get one.  The only thing holding me back was the lack of official support.

    Let me know what you guys think!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,781

    cgidesign said:

    Maybe https://www.tourboxtech.com can do that ?

    I don't k now if one can map DS's rotation controls to short cuts. I use that tool only for image editing software so far.

    Regarding space mouse. There was a communication from a forum user with 3dconnexion in the past and they tried DS. Their answer was that DS uses the space mouse api in a wrong way and thats the reason why it works poorly. This information was posted in a support ticket to DAZ but according to the release notes nothing has changed since then.

    Which may well indicate that the forum user was incorrect in their assertion.

  • cgidesigncgidesign Posts: 442

    Well, the fact that DS still does not support the space navigator let me believe he was right.

  • OmnifluxOmniflux Posts: 377

    cgidesign said:

    Regarding space mouse. There was a communication from a forum user with 3dconnexion in the past and they tried DS. Their answer was that DS uses the space mouse api in a wrong way and thats the reason why it works poorly. This information was posted in a support ticket to DAZ but according to the release notes nothing has changed since then.

    I don't know about the api usage, but I do have a support ticket (for incorrect movement of orthogonal cameras) closed in February 2022 stating they no longer support the 3Dconnexion SpaceMouse, so I wouldn't expect any updates.

    I did open a ticket requesting the code for the plugin be released on DAZ's official github repository, and support submitted a feature request to the devs for that, but for either licensing, roadmap, or time reasons, nothing came of it. For improved support, I think we need a 3rd party developer to develop a plugin from scratch.

  • bshugs@hotmail.combshugs@hotmail.com Posts: 176

    For anyone interested in Stream Deck + Support there is an alpha verison of a plugin over here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/7955651/#Comment_7955651

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