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bicep peak for Genesis character

Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155
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are there any morphs that will give a peak to the upper arms?

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  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited January 2023

    Do you mean like Lord of the Abyss ?

     

     

     

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  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155
    edited January 2023

    Noah LGP said:

    Do you mean like Lord of the Abyss ?

     

     

    Referring to the attached image starting on the left :

    The first image is a bitmap drawing and the bicep has a peak

    The second image is Genesis (Genesis 1) -- notice that compared with the other images, the bicep does not have a peak

    The third image is Genesis 2, again the bicep has a peak

    The last character is Genesis 8 and it also has a peak.

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  • felisfelis Posts: 4,612

    I don't see any attached images?!

  • arne207arne207 Posts: 156
    edited January 2023

    Genesis 9 seems like a step backwards in that regard, G8 and 8.1 were advertised as improvements in terms of muscle contraction. What is needed here is a muscle morph pack, and so far there isn't any. We'll have to see what turns up eventually, especially since apparently there are Ivar 9 and Freja 9 characters on the way that will probably be pretty beefy.

    Right now you can either try post-render work with something like Photoshop or mess around with ManFridays Mesh Grabber tool -> https://www.daz3d.com/mesh-grabber-win

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  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 868
    edited January 2023

    I've tinkered with this a little on Genesis 9.

    Here's a sample and parameter dials screenshot where I set the parameter dial limits to 300% on the main automatic flexion controller dial and on the bicep flex dials.  That made a marked difference in bicep flexing.  Haven't played around with the other flex dials much, but probably works the same if needed. 

    Lee

    EDIT: Finally got images to upload. Yay! :)

     

     

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  • RenderPretenderRenderPretender Posts: 1,041

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    I've tinkered with this a little on Genesis 9.

    Here's a sample and parameter dials screenshot where I set the parameter dial limits to 300% on the main automatic flexion controller dial and on the bicep flex dials.  That made a marked difference in bicep flexing.  Haven't played around with the other flex dials much, but probably works the same if needed. 

    Lee

    Forum not allowing image uploading of my samples.  Will edit this post when it works. :)

     

    Look forward to seeing your pics, but that's a great idea. I might have to experiment with that a bit. Thanks for that.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,020

    Muscle morph packs or Swole characters, one recently $2.99, can do that. Also several G8 characters like the Brute should work. 

  • terry_duquetteterry_duquette Posts: 256

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    I've tinkered with this a little on Genesis 9.

    Here's a sample and parameter dials screenshot where I set the parameter dial limits to 300% on the main automatic flexion controller dial and on the bicep flex dials.  That made a marked difference in bicep flexing.  Haven't played around with the other flex dials much, but probably works the same if needed. 

    Lee

    Forum not allowing image uploading of my samples.  Will edit this post when it works. :)

     

    Leemoon, thx for that tip on the G9 platform, I have been trying and failing on making some believable morph packs for that platform.  TD 

  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 868

    RenderPretender and Terry, you are most welcome.  I hope it's of some use.  I haven't really messed around with it as much as I'd like.  It's far easier to work with G8/8.1 due to the variety of add-ons. :)

    Also, I've updated my earlier post with the images now that the forum is letting me upload again. :)

    Lee

     

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,617
    edited January 2023

    For Genesis 9 ?

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  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155

    For Genesis. Genesis 1

    Before Genesis 9. Before Genesis 8.1. Before Genesis 8. Before Genesis 3. Before Genesis 2. The FIRST Genesis.

  • MisselthwaiteMisselthwaite Posts: 961

    Drogo Nazhur said:

    For Genesis. Genesis 1

    Before Genesis 9. Before Genesis 8.1. Before Genesis 8. Before Genesis 3. Before Genesis 2. The FIRST Genesis.

     LOL!  My fave Genesis!  RamWorks came out with an enhancement set of morphs for Genesis, and one slider is bicep bulge.  That might do what you want, assuming you have all the other potential sets.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130329030413/http://www.ramwolffsworld.com/3D_Directory/Packs/RAMWorksMorphsGenesis.zip

  • leemoon_c43b45a114leemoon_c43b45a114 Posts: 868
    edited January 2023

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-muscularity and https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-body-morphs

    The Muscularity product has the following morphs:Biceps, Biceps Flex Left, and Biceps Flex Right.

    Adding to that, the Body Morphs product has the Fitness Details and Fitness morphs which add more punch to the biceps (as well as the rest of the body.)

    This is for Genesis 1 - not any of the other Genesis variants.

    Lee

     

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  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155
    edited January 2023

    leemoon_c43b45a114 said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-muscularity and https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-evolution-body-morphs

    The Muscularity product has the following morphs:Biceps, Biceps Flex Left, and Biceps Flex Right.

    Adding to that, the Body Morphs product has the Fitness Details and Fitness morphs which add more punch to the biceps (as well as the rest of the body.)

    This is for Genesis 1 - not any of the other Genesis variants.

    Lee

     

    I purchased the morphs that you recommended. Thank you.Not as good as G2M (middle below) or G8M (below right) but better than what I had before. Thanks again.

    EDITTED TO SAY: The forum attach feature appears to be broken so I can't show you but you can see it here --> https://www.deviantart.com/dim35/art/RL-me-with-different-versions-of-the-software-944739783

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  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,698
    edited January 2023

    This one is really good for Genesis 8. It's the best as far as being very customizable:

    https://www.daz3d.com/musculature-hd-morphs-for-genesis-8-male

    This one is awesome too, very realistic, and much easier to use in my experience:

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-muscle-enhancer-hd-for-genesis-8-males

    There is one more I tried which is really incredible, but it's mostly for the SWOLE character:

    https://www.daz3d.com/swole-for-genesis-8-male-fibo--advanced-muscle-deformation

    Note: I have not tried any of these on Genesis 9 and I don't know if they would work. They were all designed for Genesis 8.

    I have not seen anything for Genesis, but I started with Genesis 8 when I started using DAZ.

    For realistic muscle contractions, I personally would upgrade to Genesis 8 because there are a lot of products for muscle enhancement, both male and female. And the realism is amazing to me! 

    I had fiddled around with Poser and Genesis, then with Genesis 2 and pretty much gave up, until Genesis 8 came along and that really knocked my socks off! But I know that if you have invested a lot in a previous generation (time and or money), you may not want to switch. I am not purchasing anything for Genesis 9 for that reason. Personally, I just can't afford to purchase all new content at this time.

    Good luck! 

     

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  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,950
    edited January 2023

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  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155

    von Hobo said:

    This one is really good for Genesis 8. It's the best as far as being very customizable:

    https://www.daz3d.com/musculature-hd-morphs-for-genesis-8-male

    This one is awesome too, very realistic, and much easier to use in my experience:

    https://www.daz3d.com/auto-muscle-enhancer-hd-for-genesis-8-males

    There is one more I tried which is really incredible, but it's mostly for the SWOLE character:

    https://www.daz3d.com/swole-for-genesis-8-male-fibo--advanced-muscle-deformation

    Note: I have not tried any of these on Genesis 9 and I don't know if they would work. They were all designed for Genesis 8.

    I have not seen anything for Genesis, but I started with Genesis 8 when I started using DAZ.

    For realistic muscle contractions, I personally would upgrade to Genesis 8 because there are a lot of products for muscle enhancement, both male and female. And the realism is amazing to me! 

    I had fiddled around with Poser and Genesis, then with Genesis 2 and pretty much gave up, until Genesis 8 came along and that really knocked my socks off! But I know that if you have invested a lot in a previous generation (time and or money), you may not want to switch. I am not purchasing anything for Genesis 9 for that reason. Personally, I just can't afford to purchase all new content at this time.

    Good luck! 

     

    I have ESTABLISHED characters in every generation. Moving them forward is difficult because my followers are use to a ceetain look.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,364
    You've probably already tried it, but you might get enough of a tweak to the bicep you're looking for using the deformer tool.
  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,658

     

     LOL!  My fave Genesis!  RamWorks came out with an enhancement set of morphs for Genesis, and one slider is bicep bulge.  That might do what you want, assuming you have all the other potential sets.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130329030413/http://www.ramwolffsworld.com/3D_Directory/Packs/RAMWorksMorphsGenesis.zip

    Was that a free or paid pack back then cause that's a direct download link. 

  • Drogo NazhurDrogo Nazhur Posts: 1,155

    Timbales said:

    You've probably already tried it, but you might get enough of a tweak to the bicep you're looking for using the deformer tool.

    Deformer tool? Link, please.

  • windli3356windli3356 Posts: 239

    arne207 said:

    Genesis 9 seems like a step backwards in that regard, G8 and 8.1 were advertised as improvements in terms of muscle contraction. What is needed here is a muscle morph pack, and so far there isn't any. We'll have to see what turns up eventually, especially since apparently there are Ivar 9 and Freja 9 characters on the way that will probably be pretty beefy.

    Right now you can either try post-render work with something like Photoshop or mess around with ManFridays Mesh Grabber tool -> https://www.daz3d.com/mesh-grabber-win

    Big yes, I noticed that too, default mesh on G8M/F’s arms seem to have minimum human muscle retraction that respect human anatomy, with great 3rd party support products over the years, it's close to perfection (only if AME female version did release) but G9 mesh just totally ignored the human muscle retraction altogether, big reason I'm not very into G9 at its current state

     

    To OP, forum user terry_duquette just uploaded an extremely useful tool (currently free) that enchance the bicep morph for G8F, you will get that realistic bump and split, that's the best solution I found so far for G8F, highly recommanded 

    Here https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/607446/free-flexion-enhancement-for-g8-8-1f-also-swm-flex-vein-control#latest

    For Male, you will have to use AME, most realistic G8M muscle morph https://www.daz3d.com/auto-muscle-enhancer-hd-for-genesis-8-males

    Other way to do realistic G8F bicep morph is to use G8M as base than use transgender tool and abrunch normal map turn him into G8F's likeness. 

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