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Another 2D Rendered Image Rights Question - Distant Backgrounds for a created set?

DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,221
edited January 2023 in The Commons

Greetings.  Intent would be to sell a 3D set of my creation.  Variations of this question have probably been asked and answered many times, so what is the harm of one more time?  I have an idea for a 3D setting that takes place in the tropics.  I intend to create a few buildings along with props that fit my intended time period and theme.  I also intend to create a detailed landscape ground and plants suitable for foreground 3D usage - 'hero' 3D models.  So far so good.  But for the more distant setting, am I allowed to render my existing tropical-related Daz3D assets to create and use as a background image to be placed on a distant plane/placard/arc/dome, or similar device?  For example, could I use UltraScenery to render a distant tropical forest and place the image on a distant plane when the camera faces my set in the direction of the island interior?  Could I use one of my many beach or ocean sets to do the same for when the camera faces my set in the direction of the island shoreline?  Could I do something silly like stick a rendered image of a UFO bought from Daz3D in the rendered background sky?  Do I genuinely have full rights for rendered 2D images of my Daz3D 3D assets, including using the 2D images as backgrounds incorporated in 3D sets that I create (not selling a separable set of backgrounds)?  I could see this going either way, which is why I am asking.

EDIT - Example of one similar approach.  Jefferson AF has an environment set called My Corner of the Forest.  There is a great detailed 3D set foreground, surrounded by a mid ground of lower res 3D instances.  But the distant background of 'My Corner of the Forest' is a 2D image placed on a curved plane surrounding the detailed foreground set.  Can I use my Daz3D environment assets to render a 2D background that I place on a curved plane that surrounds my set, and then sell my set with the curved plane incorporated?  EDIT 2 - I tried to attach a screenshot of the Jefferson AF My Corner of the Forest set but forum is acting up.  EDIT 3 - third time is the charm.  See attached pic of curved plane surrounding set.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,495
    edited January 2023

    well plenty of others do it

    some just sell rendered backgrounds of sets

    Renderosity is full of those

    DAZ not so much but plenty sets do include a rendered background especially for window views

    it would be no different to selling a render

    the billboard products use DAZ figures and clothing too

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,309

    I don't see why not.  JDA HDRI's store includes lots of HDRIs produced using Daz store assets.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,645

    The answer is legally yes, but the etiquette is that it's poor form to use someone's work to create a product that competes with them. Many of the stores you might go through will go by the etiquette rather than the legality. (They are not *required* to accept your product, even if it's fully legal, so may well turn it down from the perspective of maintaining relationships with their customers and vendors).

    In short, check with the store you plan to use.

  • pjwhoopie@yandex.compjwhoopie@yandex.com Posts: 793

    Project looks interesting... can't wait to see your results!

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,309

    For Daz, a primary criteria is whether the product is likely to sell, and, ideally, sell well.  A lot depends on the execution.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,666

    Another example, somehow related to the topic of this discussion:

    https://www.daz3d.com/magz-v1-mockups-and-more

     

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