Will the Animation side of DAZ ever get attention?

WendyLuvsCatz

his x said:

Mouser said:

I currently use Deepmotion for motion capture (body) and Face Mojo for face capture via my smart phone.

Only issue is that they dont work with Genesis 9 so far.

It has been my experience that the iPhone will not register the raising of a single eyebrow. It's either both eyebrows, or none at all. Have you noticed this?

neither does my face

(moot anyway as not investing in Apple phoneware)

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

neither does my face

Then, you may not have noticed.

WendyLuvsCatz

his x said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

neither does my face

Then, you may not have noticed.

Arran Thoughty2 on YouTube would notice  

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

Then, you may not have noticed.

Arran Thoughty2 on YouTube would notice  

"Thoughty2 (Arran) is a British YouTuber and gatekeeper of useless facts."

I see.

WendyLuvsCatz

his x said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

Then, you may not have noticed.

Arran Thoughty2 on YouTube would notice  

"Thoughty2 (Arran) is a British YouTuber and gatekeeper of useless facts."

I see.

no you missed the point of my reference entirely 

next time watch his eyebrows

WendyLuvsCatz

I myself use Crazytalk

for 3D Poserecorder isn't too bad but it works better on other people's faces in videos than my own crooked asymmetrical one

I also have a machine learning AI called Thin Plate but it only does 256x256 sized videos

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

I myself use Crazytalk

for 3D Poserecorder isn't too bad but it works better on other people's faces in videos than my own crooked asymmetrical one

I also have a machine learning AI called Thin Plate but it only does 256x256 sized videos

I have CT8. It has a handy ability to make a 3D head and send it to iClone. iC can do a decent iRay render too. It's too bad RL is such a cloistered environment. DAZ is so conspicuously absent from their world view, I've wondered if there is an old feud in effect.

I have a copy of Poserecorder but have never road tested it. I wonder if the DAZ timeline would allow me to swap out the Poserecorder lipsync with, say, a Mimic lipsync.

I found ThinPlate on YT. A very nice implementation of existing tech, although the UI hasn't arrived yet. Do you remember when Adobe cancelled the Voco project in 2016? They were scared of the potential of the tech. Thin Plate is a good example of why. I'd love to see Thin Plate taken forward to become a deliverable tool.

Speaking of facial symmetry, it doesn't exist.

WendyLuvsCatz

his x said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

I myself use Crazytalk

for 3D Poserecorder isn't too bad but it works better on other people's faces in videos than my own crooked asymmetrical one

I also have a machine learning AI called Thin Plate but it only does 256x256 sized videos

I have CT8. It has a handy ability to make a 3D head and send it to iClone. iC can do a decent iRay render too. It's too bad RL is such a cloistered environment. DAZ is so conspicuously absent from their world view, I've wondered if there is an old feud in effect.

I have a copy of Poserecorder but have never road tested it. I wonder if the DAZ timeline would allow me to swap out the Poserecorder lipsync with, say, a Mimic lipsync.

I found ThinPlate on YT. A very nice implementation of existing tech, although the UI hasn't arrived yet. Do you remember when Adobe cancelled the Voco project in 2016? They were scared of the potential of the tech. Thin Plate is a good example of why. I'd love to see Thin Plate taken forward to become a deliverable tool.

Speaking of facial symmetry, it doesn't exist.

Visions Of Chaos which I use for ai on my computer has a very limited UI for it (no settings you can change)

but only good for postage stamp sized videos to stick in the corner as a narrator or Vtuber or something

Poserecorder saves a duf animation, you can edit/delete keyframes to add a mimic lipsync

also use Handbrake to encode the mp4 used as it doesn't like many codecs https://handbrake.fr/

WendyLuvsCatz

mmmm ThinCrust Pizza ... I am hungry

it's ThinPlate BTW 

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WendyLuvsCatz said:

mmmm ThinCrust Pizza ... I am hungry

it's ThinPlate BTW 

Much information is lost without the face. [wink]

Dartanbeck

That reminds me. I want to see if the scripts I use for animation conversion also works with mimic lip sync. It's perfectly okay if it doesn't, but will be really cool if it does!

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Auroratrek

Sorry, late to the party, but I just wanted to play my broken record of "Daz is useless to me for character animation until and unless it gets decent lip sync." I used to have a Poser/Daz-centric worklow, and got really good results with animation with Daz when they upgraded the other year (to 4.12 I think) since the timeline was vastly improved, and it imported bvh files much better, and I would be using Daz for animation now except that there are no good lip sync options and I got sick of relying on necroware like Mimic. I still use a lot of Daz assets, but I've been driven to iClone for the lip sync. iClone's lip sync is fantastic--much better than most stuff I've seen even using face capture--it's really accurate, and it's also really easy to use and edit. I would even entertain coming back to a Daz-centric workflow if they got good lip sync, but not until.