New Windows10 License Sales End This Month
IceCrMn
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January 31, 2023 will be the lst day to buy a Windows 10 license.
Microsft says they will provide security updates until October 14, 2025
Windows 10 will be my last Windows OS.
I really like this hobby.I'm going to miss it alot when Windows 11 becomes the minimum requirement.
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...yeah going to be interesting to see how PC component sales go after 10 hits EOL given the hardware requirements for 11.
You can also do what I have been doing to keep working on W7 after support was dropped by MS, get a really good AV with a hefty firewall and just keep working with 10. I don't think there will be a wholesale abandonment of 10 by software developers as there was for 7 and 8.1.
Why not download the last Windows 10 ISO and use Windows 11, Windows 12, and so on offline via ISOs and downloading of the service packs when the get bundled. You can download all that to a 2TB 3.1 USB SSD and all the DAZ & other 3D stuff too. It'll be a very long while though before have to worry about that though.
Just last week, I ordered W10 Pro on USB stick, 64GB's more RAM (for the new rig) and an external 10TB USB drive, should arrive in about a week.
EOL as far as getting 'support' would be no problem, but as they really want to twist people's arm to move on, they have already removed all the previous updates and fixes for W7 with a message, "W7 had a good life, it's time to move on..." => One cannot install a fresh copy anymore as over the years there has been some fixes and updates that are required for some accessories to work.
2 years really isn't that much longer.
I'm not sure if W10 can be kept offline for extended periods of time or not.
I do have the current general release running in linux.
I could version lock the whole setup.Basicly freezing it in time.
But that would also mean no new content if it needs a newer version that what I have.
Why would one need to? I'm still using W7 Ultimate and would continue using it for years to come, but the current installation is not going to work (99% propability) on my new rig due to newer generation chipset and as Microsoft has pulled all the old W7 updates/fixes from the net, fresh installation is not going to work either.
Ok, if one buys the bullying and fear mongering or otherwise doesn't know how to keep the OS working and secure, then it's better to follow the crowd.
After October 2025 W10 will no longer get security patches.
Depending on the exploit, one might be able to get by with just a firewall, an excelent adblocker, javascript blocker, a good anti-virus(assuming W10 will continue to be supported), and good browsing habits.
I'm honestly not going to spend the time to research the exploits used against unsupported and unpatched Windows OS installs.
My linux OS is less of a target anyway.
Why not continue to use my dual boot setup and just not let the W10 install go online?
hopefully by then I can afford a TPM
I'm using Win 8.1 on my internet PC, online several hours a day. Hasn't been updated for years (stopped when they started breaking app I use), no problems yet. Using Defender, Malwarebytes Pro and anti-keylogger. If you don't go to risky sites or do stupid things the risk of getting virus is pretty small. I've had 3 virus in over 25 years on the net often with multiple PCs simultaneously and all Windows versions from 3.1 and up, last one was so long ago I can't remember it.
After putting it off ever since W11 was announced, I finally updated my PC from 10 to 11 about a week ago. Can't say that I've noticed much difference. I had to fiddle with the BIOS in order to get it to recognise TPM (my PC is home-built from components purchased separately so TPM is not alway enabled). As for secuirty, I use Windows Defender and Malwarebytes but I rarely stray from my usual internet haunts of DAZ, YouTube, BBC and other news organisations.
I wonder whether I am unusual in that I don't login to Windows using my Microsoft account. I have a local admin user account because I feel that exposes me less to Microsoft's control-freakery. Maybe I'm just kidding myself?
I'm pretty sure you need activate only that initial install and then stay offline from there on out. You should open a ticket with MS support to be sure though and ask.
MS seems to be gradually closing down all and any ways to stop user control that doesn't match with their plans. So not sure would post anything anymore at MS support. Just alerts them of another thing to close off.
Have MS updates off. Don't need updates messing up my setup.
MS edge had to hack registry and special uninstal to beat their daily current insistence i should have MS Edge installed.
No. It's my PC. Paid for Win1o Pro. So stop insisting on your software being installed, and making it almost impossible to install.
/yeah good luck with that
MS seems to be insisting everyone take a certain matrix pill.
...that's what I've been doing since 2023 (actually October of 2016 when they W10-ised the security update process by going to the "all or nothing" rollup format). The only thing that is making me have to consider upgrading is the fact the latest version of Iray in the latest Public Release of Daz requires a minimum driver that doesn't support 7 or 8.1. So basically the 4.21.0.5 General Release is the end of the line for those of us still on W7.
Also Google is discontinuing W7 support in another month (not sure if that includes GMail which would mean having to set up and transfer everything to an entirely new email service and account which is a serious pain in the rump as I would have to update my email addy with every site/service [including here] I have contact and accounts with).
Not thrilled about buying into MS's "windows as a service" scheme, having to rebuild a major portion of my system to comply with TPM, then taking the time to dispose of a tonne or two of feature "trashware" I don't want or need after install before I can continue working again.
7 was just so simple and elegant in comparison, basically what an OS should be, in the background supporting your software and not in your face. If Daz worked natively in Linux I would not hesitate to switch but reading through the dedicated Linux thread, not into dealing with all the compatibility and reliability issues of going through Wine or another Windows emulator.
You can use Rufus (https://rufus.ie) to create a Windows 11 installation USB key that bypasses TPM and CPU checks :)
I have an "old" CPU and mothboard from 2015 and Windows 11 can't be installed on witthout it.
...I still need to pugrade the system as the Motherboard's BIOS is so old (and there are no further updates for it) that it won't fully recognise my RTX 3060. All I get is the basic VGA signal to one of my two displays even though the card's full specs show up in GPU-Z.
paid a lot for my computer and when had to have a fix early on in it's life computer guy was impressed by it BUT in the updates side bar it says my computer doesn't meet the minimum requirements to run 11. With my other computer/laptops when 10 came out had the free upgrade option which I fell for reget cause it meant a lot of my older programs/games ect could no longer work be installed which I regret though that was also before I got this one too but still regret upgading those other ones and you just know there's bound to be more progs/ other stuff wont run on 11 too previous windows had backwards compatibility to play/run older stuff too which again they gotrid of with 10