very stupid question about the daz team...
manekiNeko
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i wanted to see what the alternate splash screen to 4.21 was, and when i saw it i couldn't believe my eyes... ARE THOSE THE ONLY MEMBERS OF THE DAZ TEAM?? wow, that's wayyyyyyy smaller than what i expected! or are those listed just the dpt heads/team leaders or sth of the kind? c'mon you're like about 8-10 people? wow, this would put daz in a whole new perspective for me, i imagined this huge office buzzing with people, like i dunno, 50+
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Back years ago (in the Draper, UT days) DAZ used to have a page in the "About Us" section that showed their whole staff with clever/funny little bios almost like a yearbook... There weren't a lot of people back then and I guess that really hasn't changed.
Sometimes less is more. Certainly cuts down on the meeting times.
The potentially biggest and most complicated project I ever worked on was the design of software for a series of hardware networking interface blades to fit into a controller chassis to act as a network bridge and manage many different types of heavy network traffic (RF cable, twisted pair, optic fiber, couple different types of wireless, etc. etc. in a control center. We had three people on the team. Me for the operating system and control systems, someone else for the graphic user interface, and a documenter. We worked about 4 months and had a product ready to show at a major networking conference. Our audience was amazed at the quality and detail in our graphic display and control of the various cards, and that we did it so fast. All claimed it would take them a team of 7 or 8 a year or more. Yeah, it probably would have.
Unfortunately, the company who had paid us to build it, got sold to AT&T (or one of the other big telecoms) and they scrapped the project, but stole our demo software and built their own for PC instead of UNIX.
When we finally got a look at what became of our ideas, it was crap. They'd simplified it to clumsy cartoons. Never saw it mentioned again in any trade magazine. Ha-ha
Also unfortunately, that was the job that broke me. I had poured my soul and much of my health into that project and I had developed some of my most sophisticated algorithms in the OS and data management code. When we were told to box up all our work and send it away I was crushed. Never again did I have the fire for something like that.
From that point on I was just going through the motions while waiting for retirement.
i realize by Draper UT days you mean something like "the old days" of daz, but i googled it and there STILL are draper days/events in 2022/23 lol. so what was it, around 2000?
but if i could imagine the starter team to have been a jolly small nerdy/artsy bunch back then, nowadays it sounds somehow exceptional, what with the whole corporate thing/internet appearance of daz and all? so those few people do ALL the work like the tech/programming part, support, sales, everything??? that would radically change my mind about things like supoort etc not happening in the blink of an eye, since the customer base is a coupla thousand peeps worldwide...
you're absolutely right - meetings are the gangrene of every single working place in any kind of business imho ~
EDIT after you edited lol: well this illustrates even better what i just wrote, and kudos to you guys for havinh mastered this task better/fsater than expected ^^
i must say that the idea of a small team of daz folks is wayyy more pleasnt to me than what i thought i.e. a huge corporate staff.. makes me want to be more tolerant with issues too
I still run 4.10 on this computer so heres a screen grab of the about page from that build circa 2017.
apparently a tad more people but still wayyy les than what i expected. very interesting. i'm still picking up my jaw from the floor...
and i also realize sth about myself that makes me cringe a little bit... i know i am really, really, really not observant. at all. like, i just don't see things in front of my eyes for eons, and then mabe, suddenly, i see what's been there for years. well, it's the first time i see that there are PEOPLE'S NAMES on that splash screen. urgh
I think I noticed it around 2006 or so... Have you ever looked at the office building they currently occupy... (Check it on on Google Maps) I think there is actually a gag prop of the location... the building isn't all that huge (I started a model of it too, but the back and one side is not that easy to see in Google street view, so I lost interest)... even if they occupied a whole floor, they still couldn't have that big a staff.
In the hands of a few rests so much.
I haven't looked at the "About Us" section in years... but this is interesting... ?
For people interested in working for DAZ?
Or some 3D job search feature?
Or in case the server hamster dies and a job for one opens up?
I'm too lazy to futz with it.
there's even a few pix of the interior, like the office door and a big open office space - but there are people milling around since it was during an event. anyways, not at all what i imagined.. and wow, you started a model of it? that's what i call adoration.. XDD
what's even more interesting is the WHO IS WHO - who from the team is the cyborg, the dominademon, the alien and the two katana masters XD - and why is that cute but lonely person all alone in the cellar? are they the server hamster? i think i have to rearrange the concept of "hamster" in my mind too now.. so many concepts broken in one single day....
you're laughing about the hamster, but you DO realize that when the big blackout comes, you'll be happy the hamster will power up the servers with his dynamo wheel, right?
edit: btw, where did you get that current opening thinghy from??? another thing i can't see??
That splash screen is not representative of the whole company. They have many more people than that working at Daz.
That splash screen certainly doesn't cover everyone who works for Daz. It doesn't include, for example, the very few people who have interacted here in the forums, like Travis or Ty or Jen Greenlees or Jack Tomalin. It doesn't include any of the executive staff. I don't know why they chose the people to list that they did, but it's nowhere near everyone. According to LinkedIn, it has between 51-200 employees.
see, that's exactly what i asked in my OP, like are those listed like the team leaders or sth
Yes, Dazneyland. It was an April Fools Day freebie in 2015.
https://www.daz3d.com/dazneyland
ha! 51-200 employees is exactly what i imagined, that's more like it... so i can pick up my jaw from the floor, nothing new or exceptional under the sun here XDDD
@McGyver this what i understand under a server hamster... XDD - yup, AI. whatever.
Just wait until McGyver posts the picture and story of the real one
This one?
fortunately since I had searched it before the link came up in Google
No. That's the Forum Server Hampster.
Regards,
Richard
oh shoot, you are right
waiting with bated breath for the tale of the DAZ team one
Several searches later. As few as 34 to as many as 250 have been employed there. This is a guesstimate.
according to a business page, DAZ has 144 employees
At first I read that as meaning the image/screen associated with the "About Us" page... I was like "Ok... there are more Cyborgs, Cyberpunk assassins, Latex dominatrix demonesses, Sword wielding undead dudes and Biological-experiment-gone-horribly-wrong mutants working at DAZ?"
And then I was like "Oh... I get what he means... clearly not everyone working at DAZ could be Cyborgs, Cyberpunk assassins, Latex dominatrix demonesses, Sword wielding undead dudes and Biological-experiment-gone-horribly-wrong mutants... surely there must be some Werewolves, Super-intelligent goldfish with cyborg gorilla bodies, Undead dwarfs, robotic kangaroos, 9 foot tall blue extraterrestrial cat people, Yetis, Chupacabras or people from Wisconsin working there too...?"
And then I was like... "Oh... wait... the microwave is beeping..."
So like after twenty or thirty minutes of snacking it occurred to me that wasn't the page you were referencing... And also that mini Pizza Rolls are just as bad a Hot Pockets, in that they're filled with the same lava-like substance that never cools.
And then as I was writing this, I realized I had forgotten why I was writing this, but that you probably weren't referring to the "About Us" screen.
I don't know why I felt that was worth reporting on, but it's probably something do with why wearing a DOT FMVSS 218 (or better) approved helmet when riding a motorcycle is a good idea.
Clearly old mop buckets with eyeholes don't cut it.
But most of those are not going to eb application coders. I don'tknow how many people actually work directly on Daz Studio, more than two I think but it is a small group.
Are you talking about Greg?
I think that’s his name...?
I’m pretty sure it starts with a “G”…
Or maybe that letter that looks like a broken “G”…
Whatever… It starts with some letter…
But yeah, technically I don’t think he counts as a real server hamster...
Gregory was working at DAZ for a number of years, but was let go during the pandemic because apparently one day during a team meeting he forgot his camera was on and took his head off to scratch his nose, revealing he was a slightly balding forty somethingish human.
Apparently though, DAZ hired him back to perform clerical duties a few months after the pandemic was over under the stipulation that he wear the full hamster costume all the time... Apparently he was good at his other job or at least the hamster costume part.
I’m going to have to rely on someone who knows about this stuff to confirm this part because I always like to make stuff up on the fly, plus I’m always transposing peoples’ names, historical facts, episodes from TV shows, hallucinations, stuff the voices tell me and random trivia with actual stuff that happened in real life, but apparently Giovanni was hired a few years back as a server hamster, but he didn’t fit on the wheel and when DAZ tried forcing him to fit, the wheel broke.
DAZ tried to fire him, but Gaston threatened to sue them for discriminating against him for being a very fat hamster, so they kind of had to keep him employed.
Being that building a larger wheel was out of the range of DAZ’s $8.99 hamster wheel budget, they decided to keep Gustavo on and assign him assorted clerical duties and wait for another spunky broke down hamster like Burt to be throw out by Hamster Depot… in fact one of Guillermo’s duties is rummaging through the dead hamster dumpster at Hamster Depot looking for one that’s still alive, just like Burt was, so they could assign them the job Grant was originally hired for.
As far as I know Jeff still works there and in addition to being an adorable, but sweaty smelling mascot, he also hands out the mail, crosses off the appropriate days on the wall calendar, reloads staplers, read inspirational poetry and get coffee and croissants for the staff from Coffee and Croissant Depot without getting run over at the intersection of 200W and Peirpont Ave (technically it’s a “T” intersection, but it’s still kind of dangerous to navigate in a hamster costume)…
Gilroy is no Burt, but nobody is Burt… Burt the Forum Server Hamster is in a class by himself… actually technically, being that he’s died and been defibrillated/resurrected so many times he might actually be immortal at this point, which would put him on the same level as Zeus or those teenager vampires from Twilight.
Either way, Gandalf is very important in his own way just like everyone at DAZ.
Except you Angus… you know what you did and we are not forgiving you.
I think it`s a wine cellar. If thats the case, doesn`t seem all that bad
I am told that in fact that is currently the active development team, though there are some new recruits who will hopefully appear in the credits for future releases.
in short:
- daz is, unlike the extremely reduced list from the splash screen, staffed like a normal midsize company, except that "normal" is rather the twilight zone x supernatural x alien kinda normal as far as the genetic cocktails of the people involved are concerned, with the occasional additional shot of latex and other fancy accessories
- the hamster, as i imagined, was really powering the server with its wheel (according to the pic from McGyver )
- there's a Coffee and Croissant Depot just across the street from daz HQ
- and yeah, Gregorygastongandalfgilroyguillermo *coughs - catches breath - drinks some water* is a key person @daz without whom no menial or important tasks would have ever been accomplished, he should get a medal or sth, looks awesome on a hampster costume.
yay, i really think i've learned something today. aaaand OFF
Hopefully Gotlieb will be there too... of course wearing his hamster costume as per the terms of his employment.