Face Transfer Unlimited - g8 expressions/morphs?

Face Transfer Unlimited | Daz 3D

How does this work? Can you "transfer" face into daz and then use g8 expressions/morphs on the item or is it a static model?

Thanks

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,493
    edited February 2023

    I just bought it but have tried the demo that comes inbuilt

    it creates a morph shape shape and texture based on a front photo

    and yes all other morphs still work though as with any morph dialing up extreme settings can cause conflicts

    that said Poserecorder worked fine with the one I just did

    Lipsync uses bones in Genesis 3 and 8 so should not cause issues

    (well it's for Genesis 8 but I reckon one could easily transfer it to 3 also using a clone shape, the texture will work)

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  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,446
    edited February 2023

    Here's a couple of examples I did when testing new products recently. The purpose here was to test the Grandmother HD and Grandmother HD Addon, which I'd picked up on sale, and also a random morph product no longer carried by Daz (which I bought a while back and forgot about). First, I used Face Transfer for the initial creation of the original  "Younger" example. I did some work on the skin, then applied some random morphs, then used the Grandmother HD Head and Body dials to make the older version. The slight smile is one of the expressions from the Grandmother Addon. In these examples, it's Face Transfer skin, but the eyes are from a Chevybabe product.

    Once created, you can use the resulting figure like any G8 figure. (I technically use G8.1 figures as a base.) Note that the product is pretty much unusable without Face Transfer Shapes.

    Original: Face Transfer character created on a stock G8.1 Female figure; it uses FT skin mat files.

    "Grandmother" version created with the Grandmother HD Head and Body dials; same skin.

    I hadn't planned on posting these, but hopefully they help address OP's question.

    ETA: Here's a head-on example of the original younger character, and the source file.

    Original, before any morphs:

    Source file, from Artbreeder.com

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  • paulawp (marahzen) said:

    Here's a couple of examples I did when testing new products recently. The purpose here was to test the Grandmother HD and Grandmother HD Addon, which I'd picked up on sale, and also a random morph product no longer carried by Daz (which I bought a while back and forgot about). First, I used Face Transfer for the initial creation of the original  "Younger" example. I did some work on the skin, then applied some random morphs, then used the Grandmother HD Head and Body dials to make the older version. The slight smile is one of the expressions from the Grandmother Addon. In these examples, it's Face Transfer skin, but the eyes are from a Chevybabe product.

    Once created, you can use the resulting figure like any G8 figure. (I technically use G8.1 figures as a base.) Note that the product is pretty much unusable without Face Transfer Shapes.

    Original: Face Transfer character created on a stock G8.1 Female figure; it uses FT skin mat files.

    "Grandmother" version created with the Grandmother HD Head and Body dials; same skin.

    I hadn't planned on posting these, but hopefully they help address OP's question.

    ETA: Here's a head-on example of the original younger character, and the source file.

    Original, before any morphs:

    Source file, from Artbreeder.com

     

    Thanks.  Nicely done.  I appreciate you posting this.

  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,446
    edited March 2023

    reine_law_0cc9bf9349 said:

    Thanks.  Nicely done.  I appreciate you posting this.

    Glancing back over my post, I decided to add a few pointers in case you decide to experiment further with Face Transfer, or in case anyone else wanders across this thread in the future. I've been tinkering with FT for a little over a year - I switched from FaceGen to Face Transfer after my first few months of learning Daz. No hard feelings toward FaceGen, which is why I started using Daz to begin with - I just like FT better. But I should point out a few things to know ... 

    1) Head Size. When you first do a Face Transfer, you might notice something just seems a bit weird. In my case, I was directly comparing new FT versions of FaceGen characters that I had been working with for months. I have no idea why, but a brand-new FT figure has a head that is noticeably smaller than a stock G8/G8.1 figure, seen here on the right for comparison. Just go to Shaping --> Head Propagating Scale and size appropriately. You can superimpose a stock G8 figure and bump it til it's right, or if you're just doing a quick character, 7-8% is generally about right.

    2) Voldemort face. I bolded this in my original reply but glossed over it a bit, considering its critical importance. I promise I'm not making any money selling Daz products - just saying, if you're going to use Face Transfer, you pretty much have to use Face Transfer Shapes, to quickly work past this problem. Face Transfer Shapes has several nifty dials over in Shaping --> Head --> Real World --> Face Transfer for fine-tuning the output, but to get something that is instantly less, well, Voldemorty, do a 75% or 100% one-click shaping option with Face Transfer Shapes.

    Face Transfer Shapes for Genesis 8 | Daz 3D

    3) Skin. Here's what it looks like with Nvidia Iray viewport, straight out of Face Transfer with a 75% Face Transfer Shape Fix applied. This came from a fairly clean Artbreeder image. What happens next depends. I gather that a lot of people simply replace the material files that Face Transfer creates with character skins that they like. I've spent the last year fine-tuning use of the original FT mat files but I might be the only person on the planet who does, so if no one cares, I'm not going to blab about it.

    Either way, you now have a G8 (or G8.1) figure ready to use, like you'd use any other one.

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