Breast Control Genesis 3 (Commercial)

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited November 2015

    as written, this gets much worse if the thigh gets thicker. I have shapeshift but the innner thigh morphs or thighs appart or other morphs are just working a bit (in small borders) because a chubby character has thicker thighs than a super slim model and you are bound to an anatomical correct look. You can just see it from the behind. Front view is absolutely okay.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089

    Noted.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    Zev0 said:

    Noted.

    I guess that also has something to do with the genital width you can I think edit with Shapeshift.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089

    Yes Genital Width can help in that area.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    Zev0 said:

    Yes Genital Width can help in that area.

    well not, because I need the genital width a bit wider so I have more problems with this region. I use not the DZ genitals but the "New Genitals for V7". But you also get this problem in this region with standard values if the thighs gets a bit bigger. Well the problem is not a big thing I can`t live with but if it is possible to fix this, why not create such a smoothing morph?

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited November 2015

    Will have to see if a single smoothing morph will be enough. Might require Jcm's to resolve the issue.

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    Zev0 said:

    Will have to see if a single smoothing morph will be enough. Might require Jcm's to resolve the issue.

    well as written it is not THE BIG PROBLEM but if it is possible to fix it would be nice

  • Hi Zev0,

    Any idea when Glute control for G3 will be released.??

    Cheers,

    S.K.

     

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited November 2015

    Can't say for sure. Busy on Growing Up as well so I am chopping and changing.

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  • Hey Zev0, how long will it take you to grow up? It shouldn't take a fit male that long to control that, right? I'll probably grow aging morphs if I have to wait any longer to control my third generation glute! And don't tell me I should control my tongue first to not get my skin overlayed!

    In other words: Any chance to see Glute Control in store this year? Not to mention all the other G3 products I'm looking forward to ;-)

     

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 2015
    Glute and Bend Control (2 different products) will be released next year. Only thing I managed to get done in time before the year ended was Growing Up for G3F. Ran into a few issues with the glute morphs so it is going to take longer than expected.
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  • Sfariah DSfariah D Posts: 26,288
    Zev0 said:
    Glute and Bend Control (2 different products) will be released next year. Only thing I managed to get done in time before the year ended was Growing Up for G3F. Ran into a few issues with the glute morphs so it is going to take longer than expected.

    At least it is December so next year could mean next month.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Zev0 said:
    Glute and Bend Control (2 different products) will be released next year. Only thing I managed to get done in time before the year ended was Growing Up for G3F. Ran into a few issues with the glute morphs so it is going to take longer than expected.

    At least it is December so next year could mean next month.

    Zev0 keeps escaping from the salt mines, so maybe not; I heard he'd been given a whole hour off on christmas day... Shocking! surprise

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    Zev0 said:
    Glute and Bend Control (2 different products) will be released next year. Only thing I managed to get done in time before the year ended was Growing Up for G3F. Ran into a few issues with the glute morphs so it is going to take longer than expected.

    At least it is December so next year could mean next month.

    or next december

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609

    I am waiting

  • DavidGBDavidGB Posts: 565

    Zev0, WRT the breast morph package, I'm wondering if you were aware of and have included in this product a fix for a particular problem with the G3F breasts when combining bending the collars with certain (DAZ, not esoteric) morphs.

    To see this problem, if you are not aware of it:

    1 Load G3F. Best to then set her to an untextured, grey materail like the one Genesis loads with.

    2 Apply the Karen7 body morph (100%)

    3 Apply the DAZ Breast Small morph (100%)

    4 Raise her arms fully up with the Arms Up-Down pose dial

    5 Admire the horrible  great dents that appear in the lower outside of her breasts.

    This isn't actually just limited to when using Karen7 - one gets the same problem of denting in the breast lower outside with V7 and Eva7 (don't know about the other -7 shapes as I don't have any others). It also happens to varying degrees with other breast morphs, not all breast small ones, both DAZ ones but especially smaller breastmorphs from other merchants (like Xameva's pack). The problem is actually specifically with the collar bend component of the arms up, not the shldrs. I can't quite decide whether the basic fault is with the rigging, the making of the breast morphs or the collar up JCM (the deformations disappear when manually turning off the base collar up JCM - not the K7 specific JCM - although that drastically reshapes the whole shoulder-and-breast area). In any case, a fix for this would be nice - especially as it is at its worst in the K7/breast-small combo, and K7 appears to be the G3F 'athletic' figure, but they've 'Holywood-ized' it over the G2F athletic Gia (shaped after a certain real athlete),  most especially with notably large breasts. Given that most women lose fat from the breasts first when getting lean, and have smaller breasts (unless using implants) as a result, this breast denting on posing with a K7/Breast-Small combo really messes up attempts to use K7 as the base for a realistically athletic shape.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Could Normal maps be part of the problem? I've had to edit a couple.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    Zev0 said:

    Havent figured the details, but I'm working on a new system while finishing the Glute Control product. Basically it is going to change the results when G3 bends her legs adding even more realism. It's going to include a bunch of shin, thigh and hip refinements when the legs are posed or bent. All will be automated and you control the changed effect with a single master controller. Well that is the plan anyways lol. Here is a sneak peak.

     

    How do you morph for both legs, as I have been wanting to do this morph ever since V4! I have the morph for one leg but don't know how to appy to both legs, as I don't want to try and match these morphs twice!

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    edited January 2016

    I want those leg bend/glute morphs!! *Throws money at monitor...Why doesn't this work, the money just hits the monitor, yet doesn't fall into Zev0's bank account...I'll just try a bit harder...

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,985

    I want those leg bend/glute morphs!! *Throws money at monitor...Why doesn't this work, the money just hits the monitor, yet doesn't fall into Zev0's bank account...I'll just try a bit harder...

    lol, did the same think. Hard to write here, can't read my monitor with all my money piled up.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    edited January 2016

    I want those leg bend/glute morphs!! *Throws money at monitor...Why doesn't this work, the money just hits the monitor, yet doesn't fall into Zev0's bank account...I'll just try a bit harder...

    lol, did the same think. Hard to write here, can't read my monitor with all my money piled up.

    Indeed, as most of my purchases are with joint morphs and utilities!

    Case in point, I just bought Chungdan's beauty-fingers-and-toes So this morph would be a perfect match!....Well, at least, some of my money have cleared my display but still awaiting Zev0's next move! 

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2016

    Just need to get the Growing Up for G3M as well as the MR skin done first, then those will be out.

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    edited January 2016
    Zev0 said:

    Just need to get the Growing Up for G3M as well as the MR skin done first, then those will be out.

    Thanks, got GU for G1-3, plus your skin packages, and your excellent shape shifters/Glute/Breast morphs Pose builders/converters for G1-3! Anxiously awaiting the release, and thanks for the morphs/and info!

    BTW, Have you also considered a muscle flexion styled package as well?

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2016

    Muscles already exists for G3, well the female so far. http://www.daz3d.com/musculature-hd-morphs-for-genesis-3-female-s

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    DavidGB said:

    Zev0, WRT the breast morph package, I'm wondering if you were aware of and have included in this product a fix for a particular problem with the G3F breasts when combining bending the collars with certain (DAZ, not esoteric) morphs.

    To see this problem, if you are not aware of it:

    1 Load G3F. Best to then set her to an untextured, grey materail like the one Genesis loads with.

    2 Apply the Karen7 body morph (100%)

    3 Apply the DAZ Breast Small morph (100%)

    4 Raise her arms fully up with the Arms Up-Down pose dial

    5 Admire the horrible  great dents that appear in the lower outside of her breasts.

    This isn't actually just limited to when using Karen7 - one gets the same problem of denting in the breast lower outside with V7 and Eva7 (don't know about the other -7 shapes as I don't have any others). It also happens to varying degrees with other breast morphs, not all breast small ones, both DAZ ones but especially smaller breastmorphs from other merchants (like Xameva's pack). The problem is actually specifically with the collar bend component of the arms up, not the shldrs. I can't quite decide whether the basic fault is with the rigging, the making of the breast morphs or the collar up JCM (the deformations disappear when manually turning off the base collar up JCM - not the K7 specific JCM - although that drastically reshapes the whole shoulder-and-breast area). In any case, a fix for this would be nice - especially as it is at its worst in the K7/breast-small combo, and K7 appears to be the G3F 'athletic' figure, but they've 'Holywood-ized' it over the G2F athletic Gia (shaped after a certain real athlete),  most especially with notably large breasts. Given that most women lose fat from the breasts first when getting lean, and have smaller breasts (unless using implants) as a result, this breast denting on posing with a K7/Breast-Small combo really messes up attempts to use K7 as the base for a realistically athletic shape.

    The Breasts of G3F are a big problem especially if you use the small breast morph or if you try to create approximately "normal" natural breasts without an implant or synthetic look. And the only way to get this done is to use also other morphs than the original daz morphs, so you need zev0 and some of the other add on custom body shape tools and you have to check limits off or edit the limit values, the same for areola and nipple morphs. And almost then you get just approximately "normal" breasts without any cracks/gaps underneath the breasts. You can also turn the implant morphs into negativ but then you get problems with some clothing products on the sternum area.

  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    Zev0 said:

    Muscles already exists for G3, well the female so far. http://www.daz3d.com/musculature-hd-morphs-for-genesis-3-female-s

    Yeah, a bit overzealous on my part, even though you're creating morphs for the base models, you still have to make sure they work uniformly with existing muscle and first party character morphs, not even including the 3rd party characters, so your work is much more of an effort than that of a hobbiest!

     

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited January 2016

    Hope it is not to late for the Glute Control but I have a suggestion, okay, not exactly for the glute but for the lower body.

    What about a calves flatten (squish) morph? If G3F is lying flat on her back the calves allways are to big so it looks not real. The calves should have two flatten (squish) morphs:

    1: flatten backside

    2. flatten outside (if legs got twisted)

    both morphs should be as pose morphs and for both together and for each single.

    I also have a question on morphs. Is it possible to copy a shape morph for example and create a pose morph out of it so that I have this morph as shape and as pose? And if this is possible, how do I manage this? The thing is if I create poses and I also need some shape morphs sometimes and I have to create a pose and a shape preset. Character presets I am very careful with because I had some problems with them in the past.

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  • takezo_3001takezo_3001 Posts: 1,979
    edited January 2016
    Zev0 said:

    Muscles already exists for G3, well the female so far. http://www.daz3d.com/musculature-hd-morphs-for-genesis-3-female-s

    Looks like you spoke too soon!....Snagging this now!...Yoink!

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  • tl155180tl155180 Posts: 994

    I'm really looking forward to the glute control 3 and bend fix morphs. Once those are out I'll be looking to pick up breast control 3 and shape shift 3 as well.

    I'd also like to make a suggestion for the Glute control morphs. As crude as it may sound, what I think is really needed are morphs to part/spread the glutes and then smooth out the area inbetween. When us human beings raise up our knees thats what happens - our glutes separate out. They don't continue to clench firmly together like they do when we're standing. This is something that definitely needs fixing on the Genesis iterations in my opinion because at the moment it looks silly. I hope Glute Control 3 will tackle this issue.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2016

    The previous version had such a morph, but this version will have a better one. Also I aim to have it automatically apply when the figure is in bend positions if the master pelvis bend controller is active.

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