system requirements for DAZ

rolfpezner1952

Hello, I'd like to load DAZ onto a windows 10 laptop, but don't know if it meets the system requirements. Previous attepmts to make it work on another pc were very time-consuming and ultimately unsucessul.

Could somebody please look at the specs below and tell me if they're adequate? I'm an old man with the beginnings of dementia and all the requirments stated on the web site are just baffling to me. 

 

Leana

8GB RAM is really not much for a 3D scene. That will definitely limit you a lot.

rolfpezner1952

Leana said:

8GB RAM is really not much for a 3D scene. That will definitely limit you a lot.

Thank you, but is there anything there that would absolutely make it impossible to use?

Padone

With that PC you will be able to load small scenes and render them with the cpu. You will need the scene optimizer. Avoid new G9 and HD figures/environments since they demand more resources.

https://www.daz3d.com/scene-optimizer

outrider42

Daz Studio does not really have a specific requirement, but to be blunt you are in for a world of pain if that laptop is what you want to use for Daz Studio.

Daz Studio runs best with a Nvidia GPU. If your laptop had Nvidia you might be able to use it. But 3D also chews up memory like crazy. You need a healthy amount of BOTH VRAM and RAM in order to build any sort of decent sized scene. You need more RAM than VRAM. If you run out of VRAM, the GPU will not render the scene at all, so you want enough VRAM to be able to use the GPU (when you have one). If you run out of RAM then Daz Studio will probably crash and well, that's not good.

Also, rendering anything on a laptop is not ideal, either. Laptops are not often built for the sustained long periods of rendering that you might do because they lack good ventilation. And if you are using a CPU to render...trust me you will be rendering for very long, long, long periods of time. If your laptop does not have a good cooler, you can literally cook your laptop.

I am not exaggerating. I do not wish to discourage you, but a modern low end Nvidia GPU can probably render over 20 times faster than that laptop can.

It depends on what you personally want to do with Daz Studio. Scene Optimizer is indeed helpful, and there are other tricks you can do. Scene Optimizer just automates some of them. Take a look at this pic from Scene Optimizer. The original scene uses almost 16GB of RAM, and 3GB of VRAM (I have no idea how that only took 3GB of VRAM, it must be a very small render.) Scene Optimizer got it down to just 5GB RAM.

But here is the buzz kill, you probably cannot build this scene on your laptop. In order to use Scene Optimizer, you first have to build the scene. You would likely run out of RAM long before reaching that point, because Daz Studio needs enough RAM to run, too, and you need some RAM for your operating system so you do not have all 8gb to work with. 8GB of RAM is just not going to cut it. And not having any Nvidia GPU at all is going to suck. Your laptop would take hours to render this image even if it could fit it. And these hours might even burn up your laptop over time.

The world of 3D can be brutal like this. While barriers are coming down, you do still need some kind of reasonably decent machine to jump into 3D work. This is not just Daz Studio, 3D in general is a resource dependent field. You would run into this same problem with a lot of other 3D applications using that laptop. Only the lightest modeling apps will work well on that device.

A desktop is prefered here, with some sort of half decent GPU in it. You could get away with a low end CPU, even one equal to that laptop's, because the GPU would do all the heavy lifting. The CPU only needs to run DS at that point, and it actually isn't that hard. But the rendering part is hard, and you really need a GPU for that. And it needs enough VRAM and RAM to hold the scene you create. A 3060 with 12gb is currently one of the "best bang for buck" GPUs for Daz Studio because it has 12gb of precious VRAM. Pair that with at least 32gb of RAM and some modest CPU and you can create quite a bit with such a machine. But I would not do less than 8gb of VRAM in 2023. And it all needs decent airflow to avoid burning it up, but a decent gaming focused machine should have some decent cooling. I also would not get an older GPU. Support stops after so many years, and the old 900 series from 2014 is at its end of life, and while still waaaaaay faster than your laptop CPU they are quite a bit slower than modern GPUs are. The 3000 series was released in 2020, and so should be supported for a good number of years.

rolfpezner1952

Padone said:

With that PC you will be able to load small scenes and render them with the cpu. You will need the scene optimizer. Avoid new G9 and HD figures/environments since they demand more resources.

https://www.daz3d.com/scene-optimizer

OK, thank you.

rolfpezner1952

outrider42 said:

Daz Studio does not really have a specific requirement, but to be blunt you are in for a world of pain if that laptop is what you want to use for Daz Studio.

Daz Studio runs best with a Nvidia GPU. If your laptop had Nvidia you might be able to use it. But 3D also chews up memory like crazy. You need a healthy amount of BOTH VRAM and RAM in order to build any sort of decent sized scene. You need more RAM than VRAM. If you run out of VRAM, the GPU will not render the scene at all, so you want enough VRAM to be able to use the GPU (when you have one). If you run out of RAM then Daz Studio will probably crash and well, that's not good.

Also, rendering anything on a laptop is not ideal, either. Laptops are not often built for the sustained long periods of rendering that you might do because they lack good ventilation. And if you are using a CPU to render...trust me you will be rendering for very long, long, long periods of time. If your laptop does not have a good cooler, you can literally cook your laptop.

I am not exaggerating. I do not wish to discourage you, but a modern low end Nvidia GPU can probably render over 20 times faster than that laptop can.

It depends on what you personally want to do with Daz Studio. Scene Optimizer is indeed helpful, and there are other tricks you can do. Scene Optimizer just automates some of them. Take a look at this pic from Scene Optimizer. The original scene uses almost 16GB of RAM, and 3GB of VRAM (I have no idea how that only took 3GB of VRAM, it must be a very small render.) Scene Optimizer got it down to just 5GB RAM.

But here is the buzz kill, you probably cannot build this scene on your laptop. In order to use Scene Optimizer, you first have to build the scene. You would likely run out of RAM long before reaching that point, because Daz Studio needs enough RAM to run, too, and you need some RAM for your operating system so you do not have all 8gb to work with. 8GB of RAM is just not going to cut it. And not having any Nvidia GPU at all is going to suck. Your laptop would take hours to render this image even if it could fit it. And these hours might even burn up your laptop over time.

The world of 3D can be brutal like this. While barriers are coming down, you do still need some kind of reasonably decent machine to jump into 3D work. This is not just Daz Studio, 3D in general is a resource dependent field. You would run into this same problem with a lot of other 3D applications using that laptop. Only the lightest modeling apps will work well on that device.

A desktop is prefered here, with some sort of half decent GPU in it. You could get away with a low end CPU, even one equal to that laptop's, because the GPU would do all the heavy lifting. The CPU only needs to run DS at that point, and it actually isn't that hard. But the rendering part is hard, and you really need a GPU for that. And it needs enough VRAM and RAM to hold the scene you create. A 3060 with 12gb is currently one of the "best bang for buck" GPUs for Daz Studio because it has 12gb of precious VRAM. Pair that with at least 32gb of RAM and some modest CPU and you can create quite a bit with such a machine. But I would not do less than 8gb of VRAM in 2023. And it all needs decent airflow to avoid burning it up, but a decent gaming focused machine should have some decent cooling. I also would not get an older GPU. Support stops after so many years, and the old 900 series from 2014 is at its end of life, and while still waaaaaay faster than your laptop CPU they are quite a bit slower than modern GPUs are. The 3000 series was released in 2020, and so should be supported for a good number of years.

OK,thank you. I'll have to get a new desktop with those specifications in mind.

nikhil.saxena29

I do have 8gb NvidiaRAM on Laptop with 16gb Ram on CPU..and Iray sucks..i am probably going to buy  RTX 3080 Ti 16Gb Graphics, 32Gb CPU Laptop..i know many prefer desktop but I prefer Laptop for work....I just want to know..will that works fine or it will still suck after buying a new one? as I dont want to waste my money on something if it sucks even after that.