Good news ... Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware
daveso
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MS will allow uninstall of some of the bloatware. I have read here a lot of you don;t want W11 because of it.
Microsoft will let you uninstall more built-in Windows 11 apps soon for less bloat - The Verge
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Will 'allow' me, LMAO
Thanks for the article link - I have resorted to doing registry hacks and other tricks I've found around The Webs to 'fix' some of the WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING things. (File Manager Tabs, Notepad Tabs - just don't work for me. There are partial solutions, but some are klunky at best.) I've been using Windows since the very first versions (worked at a CompUSA so got early access to ALL the releases of Windows etc.) and sometimes they introduce something and I just shake my head.
Behind the link, found an article describing their Office update where they don't have any useful and productive improvements to offer, they go and change the color schemes and default fonts and call it an update...
Some of this crazy [stuff] makes me wonder what on earth are they thinking when they say, "Let's implement THIS!!!!!" when any actual, productive USER of the software would ask "WHY would you ________?? To what end? Do you actually USE your software, or are you merely tasked with being the Goode Idea Faery this week?" Sometimes it seems like Windows changes are made targeting tablet users - but makes no sense at all for desktop users. This started with Windows 8. Make a separate version for crying out loud! </old man rant>
MS may be allowing you to easily uninstall some fluff apps, but they are determined to stuff their "Copilot" into Windows whether you want it or not. This so-called AI is likely to be even more crappy and annoying than all those apps you can now get rid of.
First task whenever I update to a new version of windows (or buy a new phone, tablet or laptop) is to uninstall the all crap that comes with it. But what bugs me more - and now this is happeniong with Windows 11 too - is the unwelcome appearance of pop-up ads in the guise of "notifications" just above the task bar. Yesterday I had one encouraging me to change my browser from Brave to Edge. I had another recently insisting that I should use Bing as my default search engine. So I diligently went through System>Notifications and switched off everything I had no use for.
I do wish that there was a native version of DAZ Studio for Linux.
You are not alone.
I would just like to have the option of putting on MY computer what I want on it. Install the OS with nothing that isn't OS. Then, if I want to, I can go to the MS site, find what I want and install it. Very simple. I like wordpad, notepad, even MS Edge, but the rest I don't need or use.
Be afraid! Be very afraid. I have very unfond memories of the incredibly annoying MS Office paperclip. This would invariably pop up at the most inconvenient time offering advice, based on a false assumption about what you were attempting to do, that was no use whatsoever.
Cheers,
Alex.
Thanks for posting the article. Good news that they are allowing us to remove things that we don't want / need. Before I move to Windows 11 at home (already forced to use it at work), I would like full functionality of the taskbar back. I get the impression that Win 11 was released in an unfinished state to meet a marketing deadline.
Which Microsoft updates can you block? Probably not Windows updates. I have wondered for years how many of those were really as important as the company claimed.
I know, right? Have always hated MS for taking control away from my own device. I can do fine on my own, thanks Microsoft. Urgh.
I'm still on Windows 10 and I didn't even want to upgrade to THAT. ;)
Oh really? AI? I don't want any AI on my computer unless I put it there, frankly. Guess I'll stick with Windows 10 for now...
I my experience many of those mandatory Windows 10 "updates" cause more harm than good.
you could get the 'chris titus' tool to rid everything you want ridded of
Bad news: they've tried it again!
Concerning web search and ai baked into the system, pre-installed apps accessing the internet by default, like weather... big problem. Horrible self-exploding interfaces all over the place, nobody knows what'll happen next, minefields to the horizon... the user is has become a tiny squirrel in front of a screen-shaped snake. And it's not a button, it's a machine that you need a degree in engineering for, in order to modify it towards "not instantly deadly".
Saddest part is, that those notifications may get silently switched back on with any random update..
Absolutely agree...
+1
yes +2 on DAZ for Linux.... please
I was forced into Win 11 via a new laptop, while the manufacturer didn't include bloatware--(I was shocked and amazed at that), meanwhile MS has plenty of stuff baked in.. from the widgets to the notifications trying to get you to install crap: "microsoft recommends____" I thought I was being clever by discovering a way via youtube ...to set set it up with a local account rather than signing in. All you have to do is sign into one thing.. like say office app.. and then " it knows " I'm guessing it won't matter what I turn off.. Maybe I wouldn't mind so much using their search and browser, if it werent for the fact that it is "forced" upon you.
I read that Win 10 will lose support in Fall 2025...so thus forced overall into this windows relationship through software.. DAZ, Adobe, etc. At some point I wouldn't put it past MS OS to go subscription model like others.......
you will not own anything and like it....
...Cortana was annoying enough, I don't need some ridiculous AI assistant to get in my way
I even disabled the Google Assistant on my phone as it just kept sending me random junk I had no interest in and was a waste of both battery power and data.
Why can't they just release a simple, elegant, "no nonsense" OS (like 7 was) for people who just need it to run programmes without all the other rubbish? It's not bleedin' rocket surgery.
I have no doubt they will make it so users won't be able to disable this without hamstringing the OS (or worse) just like Cortana in 10. I personally want nothing to do with ChatGPT or any other AI messing around in my system without being able to stop it.
...this is why after the introduction of W10, I began to refer to MS as "Mommysoft" as it demands to hold your hand every step of the way and spoon feed you what they felt you "needed".
the direction things seem to be heading in reminds me a bit of the world setting for Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 where having time to actually think was portrayed as being "abnormal". Meanwhile people would become "immersed" in what were referred to as "parlour walls" (giant wall sized flat screens) with their shimmering hypnotic patterns that drew them in offering an alternate reality.
Don't think, that's backwards. The "wall" will meet your every entertainment and interpersonal need..
Speaking as a 40 year veteran of commercial software development and maintenance, I couldn't agree more.
Every "improvement" to Windows since W7 has been a step backwards. The user interface has become more and more complex and fidly to use. I remember fondly the days of the backwards and forwards buttons. Nowadays, they have been replaced by tiny, fidly < > controls. And don't get me started on vanishing sliders!
The purpose of a graphical user interface is to make user's lives easier not more difficult. Microsoft seems to have forgotten this.
Cheers,
Alex.
....indeed. it seems sort of like the proverbial lipstick on the pig approach.
Yeah I do get it, most of the user world is not very savvy when it comes to security and system care and there it makes sense for MS t be that "white knight" protecting everyone. However anything labelled "Professional" should be just that, for actual professionals and power users who know how to maintain a system or network and keep it secure. Just adding a couple more permissions to the standard "everyman" version doesn't make it so, All that is doing is just putting a bit more makeup on the same pig.
I couldn't agree more...
And these days, keeping a system secure mostly involves protecting it from MS itself.
Yup, it takes special talent for a UI / UX team to screw up something as simple as a scroll bar.
I've done the tweak to keep scroll bars visible (mostly). I've done the RegEdit to try to keep the scroll bar's up/down buttons visible (occasionally). They're still a pain to use.
Even Win7 had some bad UI decisions. Remember aero? At least it was easy to get rid of and it stayed off.
I agree 100% they cant just build a simple functional interface giving the user some control... they have the control manipulating and roping you into believing they know what is best for you
"Mommysoft"
lol! "Spysoft" and "BuyonlyMSSoft" .. like Facebook, you are the product .....they are harvesting your data for free... they have begun telling you what you can and cannot install on their platform forcing you into using only their store to download and buy software as well.. thus you are reliant on their platform again. I decided to stop purchasing software if it comes from their store.. As is the case for an art app "Artrage" I was using. The task bar cannot be modified either. grrr 
And they are arrogant enough to specify that any and all MS sites are safe, without allowing the user to say otherwise.
On one installation, I went through the registry and changed any and all MS related URL's to dummy ones, don't remember if it was this one or the one before.
...+1
With all the failures of AI I've been reading about I cringe at what may happen with W11 when that new AI "assistant" is introduced.
For some reason I am rather apprehensive about what it may do behind our backs.