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What are you attempting to render that won't fit in 24gb vram?
Thank you so, so much, @outrider42 and @oddbob for your responses and tips, it's a huge help and very much appreciated!
+1 to this question. I have this scene with 7 characters, their clothing, hair and the pub plus game props and they all render on my new 4090 GPU. Maybe my scenes aren't usually that complicated, but I don't think I've had one scene fallback to CPU from GPU since I got my new system. I have zero regrets on the upgrade. I also like to play some of the newer games that came out this year like BG3 and Starfield, so win-win for me. :-)
...too bad EGVA stopped producing GPUs over a year ago. If I were in the market (and had the funds) I'd go with the FE version as it is shorter (and thus would fit in my case).
I just checked BestBuy through the link on the Nvidia site an they are sold out as well.
When I was limited to 8GB VRAM my scenes would drop to CPU with only 3 G8Fs (G8M seems to be less demanding for some reason). Then I made a huge jump to a 3090 and never had another problem with CPU fall-back. I don't tend to go over 5 figures even now but the twist in the tale is that my 3090 died and I replaced it under warranty with a new 4080 which has 16GB and I have yet to have it drop to CPU. I tend to avoid content-heavy scenes mostly because of render times - I make picture-stories with over 100 scenes so I don't need each scene taking hours to render.
It does suck that EVGA dropped out. They had the best warranty coverage, and I don't think it was close. But it is what it is. Honestly, I am trying to figure out who to go with for my next GPU myself, because I would pick EVGA first. My 3090 is the Founder's, but that is because that was what I could grab during the wild GPU shortage era. My strategy was either EVGA or FE, or bust. I still went EVGA with my 3060. I have a EVGA 1080ti, had a MSI 1080ti. The reason for that is they are both used.
Also, just for fun, there are rumors that the 5090 might go to 32GB of VRAM. Again, this is just a rumor, nothing set in stone. I do think this is possible, as calls for more VRAM across the line up are getting deafening. I think we might finally see more VRAM increases with the 5000 series. Regardless, I will probably wait for a 5090 myself, after all, I have a 3090 and a 3060 right now. Together they are faster than a 4080, and within reach of a 4090, of course that is only when the scene fits both cards. I do exceed the 3060 sometimes. If I didn't have a 3090 already, then I would go for a 4090. It sounds like the logical choice to me. But no matter what, any 5090 is still at least a year away, and probably longer. A lot of things can change in this world between now and then. Crypto could rise again. AI might take over. China could invade Taiwan, or a natural disaster strikes Taiwan. What would happen to Nvidia if Jenson Huang died or had to step down?
..the Ada TItian (yet if ever to released) as well as the Ada RTX 5000 tout 32 GB. of VRAM. The latter has an MSRP of 4,000$ up from the 2,500$ for the Ampere RTX A5000.
The FE cards drop in batches but they're popular so sell quickly. They've been in stock in the UK for a while though so they must have saturated the market here. If anyone is dead set on an FE card there are stock tracker apps but I've never used one, I got my 3090FE through watching hardware forums.
If anyone wants a slightly smaller 4090 Asus have the TUF OG model which seems to be based on the 3090ti but I can't find any reviews of them. This is distinct from OC models which for about $50 more than a non OC version get a very small and pointless clock speed bump that you can do yourself in moments through software.
It wasn't, they would RMA more or less anything even if you weren't the original owner or had taken it apart to swap the pads or put a waterblock on. As long as you hadn't physically broken something they'd work with you.
All they seem to be selling now is PSUs, a couple of high end intel boards and an AIO cooler. I like the PSUs, they tend to be compact for the output and work well but they're based on existing designs from the likes of seasonic and superflower. Lots of people in the rebadged psu market as well as the original manufacturers, I don't think it's sustainable.
Ada Titan isn't happening, according to rumors, nor is a 4090ti. But I am talking about gaming cards, which Titans are more of a pro-sumer type of product. You can always get the professional cards, but those have ridiculous price tags. It is no secret that Nvidia prefers to keep these markets segmented, and the price tags demonstrate why.
It is hard to say what they will do for the 5000 series. Because there are strong rumors suggesting that AMD is not going to build a high end GPU at all for its next series. This has massive implications all around, because Nvidia will be all alone with nobody to compete with. Plus with the AI market boom, Nvidia would have every reason to not bother making a big gaming GPU. And indeed, as I write this, there are numerous rumors that the top end 5000 series card will be more cut down than what the 4090 is, basically more like a 80 class than a 90 class. Keep in the 4090 is cut down quite a bit more than the 3090 was already.
That is the biggest concern now, and the worst possible situation for gamers and renderers alike...APATHY. If nobody cares to make the product, we all lose. Obviously we cannot buy a product if they refuse to build it.
But gamers are screaming for more VRAM than ever before. I've discussed that many times, and the situation is only getting more pronounced. Even 12gb is starting to look like it will not be enough in 2 years. While AMD is not doing a lot, they do have a lot more GPUs featuring at least 16gb, and they offer 20gb capacities which Nvidia does not.
...yeah I've come close to the hitting the 12 GB limit (well actually about 11 due to the RTX emulation) on my trusty old Titan-X. That's part of the reason I'm interested in the 4060 Ti. as it's a decent price for a 16 GB card even if it isn't super duper fast. 24 GB would be nice but a bit out of my price range at three times the cost.(would also need a heftier PSU which would add to that).
Yep, I miss EVGA too but Gigabyte came to the rescue along with some other goodies picked up at the local MicroCenter. Waiting the big A to deliver my 180° adaptor to ionstall the 4090.
Photo of my booty attached.
Well, the 4060ti has dropped in price like I thought it would. You can find multiple models for $50 off now. Might it drop more? Maybe, that depends on how sales go and how much lower they are willing to go. Nvidia has been extremely resistant to dropping prices even with the low sales.
I still think that is high for what it really offers, but that is an improvement. If it drops to $400 then it makes more sense. I did drop almost $400 for a 3060, but that was during the GPU shortage.
Nice haul, what are you upgrading from?
I wish we had microcentre, I did some upgrades a few weeks ago and had to order from 4 places, one in a different country.
...same here on a 3060 12 GB only to find my MB's BIOS is so ancient i't won't recognise it, so I put it back into the box until I can somehow scrape up the funds for the W11 upgrade.
I have the price of those nVidea RTX cards to plummet after Christmas.
I wouldn't say they will plummet, considering how incredibly resistant to price drops they have been so far. But prices might go down some. The current price drops have more to do with AMD than anything else. The 7700xt and 7800xt have just released, and the 4060ti 16gb and 4070 dropped in price when they launched. The timing makes it clear why they dropped. The 4070 has been generally better received, and at $550 it is close enough to the 7800xt to be considered for purchase. The 7800xt is just a little faster, and costs less at $500, so it is still cheaper. However, DLSS is a huge selling point for Nvidia gaming cards, and people are willing to pay a little more for that feature if performance is close enough otherwise. When it comes to gaming, DLSS has become a big deal, and while some people do like ray tracing, ray tracing is still a bit more controversial. DLSS is something most people can agree on.
So I don't think the 4070 will drop much more in price, unless AMD drops their price first. Now the 4060ti 16gb has looked like a bad value from the start, and even at $450 it looks bad. The 7800xt destroys it, though it is $50 more, and DLSS doesn't make up the difference here. The 7700xt at $450 is also competing against the 4060ti, and it makes it look pretty bad as well. However the 7700xt only has 12gb and uses a lot more power, so it isn't quite so cut and dry. Still, the 4060ti 16gb looks bad regardless. I have a feeling the 7700xt drops some as well, because the 7800xt at just $50 more makes that product look like a bad deal, too.
The 7700xt at $450 and the 7800xt at $500 just show how wack this market is. It doesn't make any sense why AMD priced these so close together when they released them on the same day. The decision making for AMD and Nvidia has just been all over the place.
Meanwhile, the 4090 sits alone at the top mostly unchallenged by anything. The 7900xtx occasionally gets close and does win at like 2 video games, but that's it, it loses at everything else. Without much to compete with it, it is only a matter of if Nvidia is willing to let it go lower. Sales have to be really terrible for that to happen. This makes me real worried about next gen, if AMD is indeed not going to produce a high end GPU. We might see Nvidia ask $2000 for their 5090. There wouldn't be anything to stop them.
Good luck. I have seen quite a few videos on the gigabyte cards cracking