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[Beta Update] FoliageMaker plugin (1.1 beta available)

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,742

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    tsroemi said:

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    tsroemi said:

    I'm being absolutely daft right now: I can't seem to reduce the iterations created to less than 100 --- ? The foliage itself went alright, and then I wanted to add some roses, but there were way too many of them. So I tried to reduce iterations to 20, but that never gets saved somehow, neither in automatic nor custom mode. It must be something really obvious I'm doing wrong, but I don't see it. Can anybody help me out? Thanks heart

    Edit: Just re-read the manual, I think iterations is just the wrong value, and I need to tweak the foliage/instance density instead. Will try that instead. Sorry for being such an ejit!

    Edit2: Ermmm, no, that's not it. I cannot turn down this value either. So, how does one actually reduce the number of instances created? Like, if I want only a few roses instead of a mass of them?

    If you feel like you messed with the values you can reset those to default settings, there is a button in the panel to do that. Minimum iterations are indeed set at 100, less than those would lead to a very poor growth in most cases. To reduce foliage density, try to set a high growth bias: that will concentrate leaves especially on secondary twigs. And of course set foliage density to a minimum.

    Hi, thanks for helping! I will try with the bias. I cannot reduce foliage density beyond its default value though (I think it's 1), is that right?

    No, it can't be decreased below 1, but I'll see if I can change that in next update.

    Great, thank you so much! 

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited October 2023

    I changed the texture of the vines to closely mimic the tendrils on the carnivorous plant. Poor G8M is tightly bound.

     

     

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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    barbult said:

    I changed the texture of the vines to closely mimic the tendrils on the carnivorous plant. Poor G8M is tightly bound.

     


     

    Beautiful image and composition!

  • AnEye4ArtAnEye4Art Posts: 766
    edited October 2023
    I'll be the one to ask: any idea when the update might be available? No rush, just asking for a friend.
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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    AnEye4Art said:

    I'll be the one to ask: any idea when the update might be available? No rush, just asking for a friend.

    Probably it will take another 2,3 weeks: besides the fixes and improvements I have a couple of features that I'd like to add. Cheers.

  • AnEye4ArtAnEye4Art Posts: 766
    edited October 2023
    Awesome. I figured with all the new improvements, it's almost like doing a new plug-in, which I don't mind paying extra for.
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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    AnEye4Art said:

    Awesome. I figured with all the new improvements, it's almost like doing a new plug-in, which I don't mind paying extra for.

    thanks but no worries: until a new major release comes out there will be no need to pay any extra.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited October 2023

    This was a happy accident. I set out to make a floral vine on an arbor. For variety, I selected a hair flower prop. The prop loaded at a position where a character's head would be, not at world origin. I'm guessing that is what led to my beautiful flower explosion.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited October 2023

    This is what I had in mind. (I modified the hair flower to change its origin). I have two Foliage Maker vines here, one with leaves and the other with flowers.

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    It appears that Foliage Maker crashes Daz Studio instantly if I try to build foliage on a figure with geografts. Has this been reported? I don't remember.

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,464

    barbult said:

    It appears that Foliage Maker crashes Daz Studio instantly if I try to build foliage on a figure with geografts. Has this been reported? I don't remember.

    I don't recall this being mentioned before.

  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    barbult said:

    It appears that Foliage Maker crashes Daz Studio instantly if I try to build foliage on a figure with geografts. Has this been reported? I don't remember.

    I tried on Lahr, both the main figure and also on the graft and it appears to work. What happens for you?

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited October 2023
    I am running DS 4.21.1.80 public build. I tried a G9 with legacy UV geografts twice and Jawsome once. I was using custom mode foliage maker. In all cases, DS immediately reported a fatal error and said it must close. I don't own Lahr. I had the foliage root placed near the character's foot. I did not try to grow foliage on the grafts themselves. I can try again later today.
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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    barbult said:

    I am running DS 4.21.1.80 public build. I tried a G9 with legacy UV geografts twice and Jawsome once. I was using custom mode foliage maker. In all cases, DS immediately reported a fatal error and said it must close. I don't own Lahr. I had the foliage root placed near the character's foot. I did not try to grow foliage on the grafts themselves. I can try again later today.

    Ok when you try again and it crashes, there is a log file in your Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\foliageMakerAM ; it's called foliageMakerLogFile.txt and if you can email it to me, that might help me understand what's going on. Thank you.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    barbult said:

    I am running DS 4.21.1.80 public build. I tried a G9 with legacy UV geografts twice and Jawsome once. I was using custom mode foliage maker. In all cases, DS immediately reported a fatal error and said it must close. I don't own Lahr. I had the foliage root placed near the character's foot. I did not try to grow foliage on the grafts themselves. I can try again later today.

    Ok when you try again and it crashes, there is a log file in your Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\foliageMakerAM ; it's called foliageMakerLogFile.txt and if you can email it to me, that might help me understand what's going on. Thank you.

    I just sent you an email with a log from a success without geografts and a log after a crash with geografts.

  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    barbult said:

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    barbult said:

    I am running DS 4.21.1.80 public build. I tried a G9 with legacy UV geografts twice and Jawsome once. I was using custom mode foliage maker. In all cases, DS immediately reported a fatal error and said it must close. I don't own Lahr. I had the foliage root placed near the character's foot. I did not try to grow foliage on the grafts themselves. I can try again later today.

    Ok when you try again and it crashes, there is a log file in your Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\foliageMakerAM ; it's called foliageMakerLogFile.txt and if you can email it to me, that might help me understand what's going on. Thank you.

    I just sent you an email with a log from a success without geografts and a log after a crash with geografts.

    Thank you.

  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    Ok, found the issue when using some geografts: an incorrect lookup of material indices. Will add the fix to the 1.1 update.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    Ok, found the issue when using some geografts: an incorrect lookup of material indices. Will add the fix to the 1.1 update.

    Thanks for confirming the issue and finding a fix already.yes

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited October 2023

    Here's my latest experiment. I maxed out all of the Foliage Maker settings except the leaf size. I scaled a large tree down to 25% and built the foliage on it. Then I hid the tree and left only the Foliage Maker results. It made an interesting bush. I applied the original tree trunk shader to the FM_root and FM_caps. In this render, I added another 100% scale tree to the scene.

     

     

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  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,464

    Interesting bush indeed smiley

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455

    Nice bush and interesting idea to not scale up foliage.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455
    edited October 2023

    Experimenting with emissive shaders.

    I like very much the results.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    Artini said:

    Experimenting with emissive shaders.

    I like very much the results.

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    Interesting. I haven't tried anything emissive.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455
    edited October 2023

    Another trial with emissive shaders and custom FoliageRoot.

    How to place custom FoliageRoot to have any effect on placement of the foliage?

    It is a pretty big gizmo and I do not know, if its center is important

    or the end of the arrows.

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  • AnEye4ArtAnEye4Art Posts: 766

    Cool stuff, Artini.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455
    edited October 2023

    Thanks a lot for the comments, @AnEye4Art and @barbult.

     

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  • Alessandro MastronardiAlessandro Mastronardi Posts: 2,619

    Artini said:

    Another trial with emissive shaders and custom FoliageRoot.

    How to place custom FoliageRoot to have any effect on placement of the foliage?

    It is a pretty big gizmo and I do not know, if its center is important

    or the end of the arrows.

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    Theoretically the center of the FoliageRoot gizmo is where the growth actually starts (so not the arrows).

    cheers 

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455

    I have tried to move FoliageRoot gizmo on different objects: rocks, columns and figures props

    and could not see any difference on where the growth starts, so I think I skip it for the moment.

    I just could not figure it out and how to proceed with it to make it work.

     

  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624

    Artini I don't know how to help you because I don't know how you have your scene set up but here is a quick example  screenshots with a primitive plane one with the Root at default bottom the other with it in the middle.  I am sure that certain objects its possible to not tell where the growth specially if the growth spans the whole object.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,455

    Thanks for the examples, @Daventaki.

    I have not tried growing foliage on the plane, yet.

     

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