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Converting hair from G8M/G9M to G3M?

DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538
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Heya all, I'm looking at some really nice hairs I want for my ol Genesis 3 character, but trying to convert some using the native in-DAZ converter has been... not exactly results desired? Is there a product that might make conversions better, and maybe even able to keep hair morphs, too?? I really want the Ashendun hair for G8M to work nicely with my G3M character.  I found a nice clothing converter but it doesn't seem like I can use it for hair. I'm also nervous to buy any hairs before confirming if they'll play nicely >_>

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418

    Just parent the hair and use the scale translate to fit in place.

  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538

    Also, follow-up question: Does hair converted from G8M work with its morphs if converting it for use with G9M? (I haven't converted anything in years, hence why I'm asking).

  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538

    scorpio said:

    Just parent the hair and use the scale translate to fit in place

    This would be nice except you can't translate fitted hair....

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418

    Dont fit it, as in the fit to sense. Sorry when I said fit it I meant just get it to the correct place and size for the figures head 

  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538

    scorpio said:

    Dont fit it, as in the fit to sense. Sorry when I said fit it I meant just get it to the correct place and size for the figures head 

    Then how exactly do you get it to fix properly? This is my problem! I don't want seams and floating mesh and such.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418

    make sure your figure is in the zero position. Load the hair -do not fit to - do not use autofit. Parent hair to figures head. Use the translate dials to put the hair in the correct position. Some hairs have adjustment morphs use these if neccassary.

    Ashendun hair is by Aprylish she still supplies adjustment morphs.

    I don't have that hair so I used Orson Hair.

    I used the y translate to move the hair up and the ear height adjustment to fit to the ears better and a bit of X scale( i had to have hidden properties showing to do this).

    Smoothing modifier can also help

     

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  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538

    scorpio said:

     

    Smoothing modifier can also help

     

    Sorry, what smoothing modifier? Where do I find it and what is its purpose, exactly?

  • AprilYSHAprilYSH Posts: 1,500
    Hi, the readme should have this info, g8 and g3 can share hairs easily :) https://www.facebook.com/notes/270435194333786/
  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538
    edited September 2023

    AprilYSH said:

    Hi, the readme should have this info, g8 and g3 can share hairs easily :) https://www.facebook.com/notes/270435194333786/

    Thank you for the link. I have another question for you, since you're here! I was drawn to the Ashendun style because it's the closest thing to a typical elven (or "Legolas-type") hairstyle I can find. Do you plan on releasing one that's more... near in style, that stereotypical elven, and perhaps a bit longer? That's what I really want for my character! (Although the Ashendun is good for those more relaxed days off XD)

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418

    DrowElfMorwen said:

    AprilYSH said:

    Hi, the readme should have this info, g8 and g3 can share hairs easily :) https://www.facebook.com/notes/270435194333786/

    Thank you for the link. I have another question for you, since you're here! I was drawn to the Ashendun style because it's the closest thing to a typical elven (or "Legolas-type") hairstyle I can find. Do you plan on releasing one that's more... near in style, that stereotypical elven, and perhaps a bit longer? That's what I really want for my character! (Although the Ashendun is good for those more relaxed days off XD)

    I was unaware of the turorial but it pretty much covers what I was trying to explain. 

    smoothing modifier is a way of getting rid of poke through etc I'm sure theres a tutorial out there somwhere that explains it. Perhaps try google.  

  • AprilYSHAprilYSH Posts: 1,500
    Sorry, no, I don't have plans to do an Elven hair soon. I did Ardamir and Elathlaen (and maybe even Xandy, plus a bunch of "viking" hair styles that are adjacent style-wise) too recently to do another "long half-up with braids" in the next few months. Though there's always a chance Daz may throw me a curve ball lol :)
  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538
    edited September 2023

    Edit: Nvm I found it ^^"

    Post edited by DrowElfMorwen on
  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538
    Ohh, thank you!!
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,220

    if you want the hair to move with poses you will need to set the hip to floor level 0.0.0 and bake rotations before parenting it to the head

  • jim4jim4 Posts: 0

    Pixelsizzle has a fantastic tutorial on converting older hair props and making them work with dForce. 

    https://pixelsizzle.com/using-dforce-hair-daz3d/#Convert-Regular-Hair-to-Dforce

    This isn't a product, you just use in built features of Daz Studio. I've used it to get nice conforming results with my older Genesis 3 characters and add realistic posing effects to any hair.  Hope it helps!

     

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  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,418

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    if you want the hair to move with poses you will need to set the hip to floor level 0.0.0 and bake rotations before parenting it to the head

    I've never had to do this.

  • DrowElfMorwenDrowElfMorwen Posts: 538

    jim4 said:

    Pixelsizzle has a fantastic tutorial on converting older hair props and making them work with dForce.

     

    Wow thank you! I will look into it. :)

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