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Problem with VO Lisa

WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,881
edited November 2023 in The Commons

Does anyone have https://www.daz3d.com/vo-lisa-for-genesis-9 and can test if they have the same problems?

First of all, when I tried her one click expression, it brought up two Mousso expression dials that I don't believe are meant as merchant resources.

Second, when I clicked on an eye color, it removed all makeup and completely set the skin I had tweaked to default. The eye color should just change the eye color!

Anyone else have these problems? Probably returning it.

 

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,058
    edited November 2023

    Morphs don't need to be merchant resources to be included in another product, so long as the product containing the morphs is purchased separately rather than the morphs being included in the new product. It would be a bit strange to include another PA character's morphs in your own character (as opposed to, say Daz base morphs), but it's not strictly wrong. What IS wrong is that, if that is the case, the Mousso character isn't listed as required.

    edit: I'm still waking up, but I still recognize how poorly I worded that. A product can REFERENCE other morph products, textures etc., but can't include them unless they're merchant resources.

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  • jd641jd641 Posts: 458
    edited November 2023

    Sorry, I know my post isn't going to help but I stay away from anything from this vendor, I had so many problems that never got fixed even after going back and forth with tech support. I returned the one character I bought from them moths ago and I'm still running into issues with scenes I haven't opened in a while asking for VO specific morphs that have infected my all my older G9 saved files like a virus.

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,881

    Gordig said:

    Morphs don't need to be merchant resources to be included in another product, so long as the product containing the morphs is purchased separately rather than the morphs being included in the new product. It would be a bit strange to include another PA character's morphs in your own character (as opposed to, say Daz base morphs), but it's not strictly wrong. What IS wrong is that, if that is the case, the Mousso character isn't listed as required.

    edit: I'm still waking up, but I still recognize how poorly I worded that. A product can REFERENCE other morph products, textures etc., but can't include them unless they're merchant resources.

    I'm wondering what would have happened if I hadn't already owned MSO Dola...

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,881

    jd641 said:

    Sorry, I know my post isn't going to help but I stay away from anything from this vendor, I had so many problems that never got fixed even after going back and forth with tech support. I returned the one character I bought from them moths ago and I'm still running into issues with scenes I haven't opened in a while asking for VO specific morphs that have infected my all my older G9 saved files like a virus.

    Ugh. I have a bunch of their products I haven't tested...

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755

    Wonderland said:

    jd641 said:

    Sorry, I know my post isn't going to help but I stay away from anything from this vendor, I had so many problems that never got fixed even after going back and forth with tech support. I returned the one character I bought from them moths ago and I'm still running into issues with scenes I haven't opened in a while asking for VO specific morphs that have infected my all my older G9 saved files like a virus.

    Ugh. I have a bunch of their products I haven't tested...

    I wouldn't worry about it. I checked with a friend that has several (7) VO G9 characters (not Lisa) and he has no issues or preloaded morphs when he loads default G9 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,945

    Wonderland said:

    Does anyone have https://www.daz3d.com/vo-lisa-for-genesis-9 and can test if they have the same problems?

    First of all, when I tried her one click expression, it brought up two Mousso expression dials that I don't believe are meant as merchant resources.

    Second, when I clicked on an eye color, it removed all makeup and completely set the skin I had tweaked to default. The eye color should just change the eye color!

    Anyone else have these problems? Probably returning it.

    There is no sign of those in the Filelist, which is aprt of the readme page (and you have access to the list of isntalled files through DIM/Daz Central, or can browse to the product folder by right-click on the product in DS to check) - there may be incorrect links, however, so it may be worth reporting this to support (I don't have the character to test).

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,986
    edited November 2023

    Wonderland said:

    Does anyone have https://www.daz3d.com/vo-lisa-for-genesis-9 and can test if they have the same problems?

    First of all, when I tried her one click expression, it brought up two Mousso expression dials that I don't believe are meant as merchant resources.

    Second, when I clicked on an eye color, it removed all makeup and completely set the skin I had tweaked to default. The eye color should just change the eye color!

    Anyone else have these problems? Probably returning it.

     

    First time to try... a wrong definition in Vo Lisa Smile.duf file. Pls send a support request.. meanwhile you may delete these wrong coding lines...

    He made an expression but with other char's expression properties dialed, it was totally wrong...

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  • jd641jd641 Posts: 458

    Wonderland said:

    jd641 said:

    Sorry, I know my post isn't going to help but I stay away from anything from this vendor, I had so many problems that never got fixed even after going back and forth with tech support. I returned the one character I bought from them moths ago and I'm still running into issues with scenes I haven't opened in a while asking for VO specific morphs that have infected my all my older G9 saved files like a virus.

    Ugh. I have a bunch of their products I haven't tested...

    It doesn't necessarily mean there will be a problem with all their stuff, but others have had similar issue like mine with this specific vendor which is why I would not buy from them again. While it's not the same problem, this might actually be worse because it's referencing someone elses smile. o_O

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,881

    jd641 said:

    Wonderland said:

    jd641 said:

    Sorry, I know my post isn't going to help but I stay away from anything from this vendor, I had so many problems that never got fixed even after going back and forth with tech support. I returned the one character I bought from them moths ago and I'm still running into issues with scenes I haven't opened in a while asking for VO specific morphs that have infected my all my older G9 saved files like a virus.

    Ugh. I have a bunch of their products I haven't tested...

    It doesn't necessarily mean there will be a problem with all their stuff, but others have had similar issue like mine with this specific vendor which is why I would not buy from them again. While it's not the same problem, this might actually be worse because it's referencing someone elses smile. o_O

    Yeah, really bizarre to have another PAs dials pulled up! I already have a bunch of this PAs products I haven't tested yet but I doubt I'll purchase much more in the future.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,755

    I found a user on another forum that has VO Lisa and asked if they would test the issues you are having with Vo Lisa. He got the same reference to the Mousso smile, but there are also other default smile parameters loaded to add to it. Without the Mousso product, you still get a smile, but it's much more subtle. As for the eye/skin change, he darkened the skin to see if the eye change triggered any skin change and he had no issues with changing the eye color.

    If it is just a preset to another PAs expression, I personally don't have an issue with it, but then again it should be listed as a requirement if used. I have a few VO products with no issues using them, and other than the one issue with the Vo Mieko morph being at 100% all the time,  that was later fixed, I haven't really heard of any issues with this PAs products in the forums

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,881

    I didn't try all the eye colors but at least one of them removed all the skin tweaks I had done and LIE makeup. I got so pissed off, I'm returning it. Without the Mousso morphs, it's not even a smile, just puffy cheeks and a bit of squinty eyes. I have the Mousso character that's needed but it seems wrong to use another PA's morph, especially not listing it as a requirement. I don't trust the authencity of this PA anymore, 

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