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XI Anime City Street

columbinecolumbine Posts: 455
edited January 5 in The Commons

If you already own this, you may be seeing a fresh download for it in DIM today--not in the patches/updates section of the downloads, but looking like a brand-new product you haven't downloaded or installed yet. If you are like me, this makes you mystified and suspicious.

Having just returned from a half hour of file checking and comparison, I will tell you that the "new" install is the same as the previous product, except that the main-load .duf file is considerably smaller (from like 8MB down to about 500K--Xivon forgot to gzip it the first time around), and many of the textures are slightly smaller (again, probably higher compression has been applied). The overall effect is to take the package down from 201 MB to about 138 MB.

EDIT: Nah. I'm tired (didn't sleep well) and forgot I was looking at reported file sizes IN the .zip file, where they're compressed. When they're installed, the .duf file is 8 MB in both the old version and the new. There is actually no detectable difference between the two versions of the product after installation. Tempted to go in and compress that .duf myself ... 8 MB for a text-format file is ridiculous.

The apparent reason it's showing up in new downloads instead of updates is that someone gave it a different package number, probably by mistake. That is, the original is SKU 89808, package 1, and this one is 89808, package 2.

Now you can be less mystified and suspicious.

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  • columbinecolumbine Posts: 455
    edited January 5

    By the way, because I apparently have nothing better to do with my time:

    - If you install the new version on top of the older one, even though it will overwrite the previous installation because the files are in exactly the same locations in both, you'll see two separate products in the "installed" tab of DIM.

    - If you then uninstall them both, and refresh (I assume you don't keep the .zip files after install, because you're not crazy) then the to-be-downloaded pane of DIM shows only one package, not two. So apparently now DIM is treating package 2 as an update to/replacement for package 1. And yet five minutes ago it was NOT treating it as an update, because it would have shown it in the Updates section instead of the new-products section.

    -- shrug -- Voodoo and pixie dust.

    Anyway, there's no compelling reason to install the "new" version of it that I can see. Shame there's nothing about this on the product's readme page ...

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  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,569

    columbine said:

    Shame there's nothing about this on the product's readme page ...

    I don't know they'd want to officially publish exactly what the issue was, but as I'm the one who reported the product issue to Daz in the first place, here's an unofficial answer:

    The subway sign that was used was basically an exact copy of the Transport for London "circle-and-bar roundel" logo, which is a protected copyright and trademark - and I know TfL are pretty strict about its use (especially commercially), which obviously isn't great either for Daz or anyone using the product (particularly as it was a bit odd anyway to see that logo in what is supposed to be a Japanese/Anime environment).

    From what I can tell from the promos, it's not a huge change, but they've changed a couple of textures to break up the design from exactly resembling the trademark.

  • columbinecolumbine Posts: 455

    Thank you! That was extremely demystifying.

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