Iray Skin TuneUp for Genesis 2 Figures [Updated for 4.8+]

jag11jag11 Posts: 885
edited January 2016 in Freebies

http://xenteia.com/G2IraySkinTuneUp v1.1 by jag11.zip

http://xenteia.com/g2male_face_opacity.zip in case your figures eyes poke through.

Iray Skin TuneUp for Genesis 2 Figures is a script for DS 4.8+ to help you get the best results from your old Genesis 2 figures. This script also sets up the required Geometry Shell for best results.

To install, just copy the content to your scripts folder.

How to use:

  • Load any Genesis 2 Male/Female figure.
  • Apply the Iray Optimized Genesis 2 Male/Female Materials.
  • Go to your scripts folders and double click on the G2IraySkinTuneUp v1.1 by jag11 icon.

In case your skin comes too red you can lower it down by using the SSS Reflectance Tint. Still too red, lower down the gamma property in image editor in steps of .4 units (2.2, 1.8, 1.4, 1)

Need your skin more glossy, just rise the Glossiness setting. If you still need it more glossy change the Glossy Specular, valid glossy levels are 51, 59, 102, 153, 204. Remember Glossy Specular is controlled by Glossiness property, so after changing Glossy Specular always start from Glossines 1 and lower down from there.

It is recommended to choose a neutral lighting for environment while adjusting gamma, glossiness or tint, your goal is to "match" the skin tone of your original texture, you can see this step as a calibration step. Once you're happy with skin tone you can use any light set you require. 

Saludos.

 

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634

    thanks jag

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Thank you, will try it out.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001

    Nice...

  • dakkuuandakkuuan Posts: 305
    edited December 2015

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854

    The script runs for me, but Mei Lin is way too red. I'll try the reflectance tint suggestion. I noticed that the surface settings for the geometry shell use the DAZ Studio Default shader. Is that what you intend? Was I supposed to apply the Optimized shader and your script to the geometry shell, too?

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631

    whats the benefit of the geoshell ?

  • dakkuuan said:

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

    Which version of Daz Studio are you using? Compressed and encrypted scripts (which that is) are tagged with their version and won't run in older versions.

  • AndySAndyS Posts: 1,434
    edited December 2015

    Hi Jag11,

     

    what do I have to select?

    I ever get "An error occured ..."

    I'm in the surface selection tab, have the skin-collection selected. Every other selection option has the same error result. I first applied the iray optimized skin.
    And of cause it is a G2F.

    Post edited by AndyS on
  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    edited December 2015
    dakkuuan said:

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

    Make sure you have version 4.9.0.54.

    barbult said:

    The script runs for me, but Mei Lin is way too red. I'll try the reflectance tint suggestion. I noticed that the surface settings for the geometry shell use the DAZ Studio Default shader. Is that what you intend? Was I supposed to apply the Optimized shader and your script to the geometry shell, too?

    Script automatically creates the Geometry Shell at the apropriate distance and sets opacity to 100% only for the needed surfaces, no need to do anything else to GS unless you need more realism.

    Ruphuss said:

    whats the benefit of the geoshell ?

    To prevent light from penetrating more than is need, without GS figures glow.

    AndyS said:

    Hi Jag11,

     

    what do I have to select?

    I ever get "An error occured ..."

    I'm in the surface selection tab, have the skin-collection selected. Every other selection option has the same error result. I first applied the iray optimized skin.
    And of cause it is a G2F.

    On Scene Tab select the Genesis 2 Figure you need settings to apply to. There no need to select skin surfaces. Which version are you using?

    dakkuuan said:

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

    Which version of Daz Studio are you using? Compressed and encrypted scripts (which that is) are tagged with their version and won't run in older versions.

    As Richard points script was made in version 4.9.0.54 and is encrypted it'll only load in same or newer version of DS.

    Post edited by jag11 on
  • AndySAndyS Posts: 1,434
    edited December 2015
    jag11 said:
    As Richard points script was made in version 4.9.0.54 and is encrypted it'll only load in same or newer version of DS.

    Why only for the current beta version?

    What about older or newer betas?

    What about 4.8?

    As I know a lot of customers are not able to run 4.9 due to PostgreSQL incompatibilities.

    Post edited by AndyS on
  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    AndyS said:
    jag11 said:
    As Richard points script was made in version 4.9.0.54 and is encrypted it'll only load in same or newer version of DS.

    Why only for the current beta version?

    What about older or newer betas?

    What about 4.8?

    As I know a lot of customers are not able to run 4.9 due to PostgreSQL incompatibilities.

    Reason is I unistalled 4.8 when the 4.9 beta come out, which has improved SSS handling among other goodies. You can get the same results using 4.8 but require a little bit more teaking the gamma.

    Gimme a few minutes to install 4.8 and save a 4.8+ compatible script.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    jag11 said:
    dakkuuan said:

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

    Make sure you have version 4.9.0.54.

    barbult said:

    The script runs for me, but Mei Lin is way too red. I'll try the reflectance tint suggestion. I noticed that the surface settings for the geometry shell use the DAZ Studio Default shader. Is that what you intend? Was I supposed to apply the Optimized shader and your script to the geometry shell, too?

    Script automatically creates the Geometry Shell at the apropriate distance and sets opacity to 100% only for the needed surfaces, no need to do anything else to GS unless you need more realism.

    Ruphuss said:

    whats the benefit of the geoshell ?

    To prevent light from penetrating more than is need, without GS figures glow.

    AndyS said:

    Hi Jag11,

     

    what do I have to select?

    I ever get "An error occured ..."

    I'm in the surface selection tab, have the skin-collection selected. Every other selection option has the same error result. I first applied the iray optimized skin.
    And of cause it is a G2F.

    On Scene Tab select the Genesis 2 Figure you need settings to apply to. There no need to select skin surfaces. Which version are you using?

    dakkuuan said:

    I'm getting an error.  I can't tell what's going on with it because I have no idea where Daz keeps its log. UPDATE: I found the log, and it just said "Failed to load script: D:/Documents/DAZ 3D/Studio/My Library/Scripts/G2f iray skin tuneup/G2IraySkinTuneUp by jag11.dse"

    Which version of Daz Studio are you using? Compressed and encrypted scripts (which that is) are tagged with their version and won't run in older versions.

    As Richard points script was made in version 4.9.0.54 and is encrypted it'll only load in same or newer version of DS.

    Guess I'll be passing on this then.

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885

    Updated for DAZ Studio 4.8+

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    jag11 said:

    Updated for DAZ Studio 4.8+

    TY

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854

    I tried the new script on Gianni 6. I'm having a problem with the placement of the geometry shell. It is poking through his eyes and ears. I tried adjusting the mesh offset on the shell, but I couldn't find a setting that seemed to work. Any suggestions?

     

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  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885

    In most of the figures Geometry shells behave pretty good. In this case you can try two possible solutions, the first one would be setting Gs mesh offset to -.10 or -.15 to see if it helps. The other solution, is create an opacity mask for the Gs for the eye area, you can later use this opacity mask with other figures who's Gs doesn't behave well. For ears apply the same opacity mask solution but only for the back of the ears. If you want your figure's ears more translucence you can use a translucency map

    HTH

  • dakkuuandakkuuan Posts: 305

    Here is Bree V5 with my normal maps.  Looks pretty good.  Thanks.

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  • dakkuuandakkuuan Posts: 305

    Hey Jag would you mind posting the source for this?  I've always wanted to create scripts using Gshells but I'm not good with daz scripting.  Which is sad, I have a master's in computer science lmao.  

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854
    edited December 2015
    jag11 said:

    In most of the figures Geometry shells behave pretty good. In this case you can try two possible solutions, the first one would be setting Gs mesh offset to -.10 or -.15 to see if it helps. The other solution, is create an opacity mask for the Gs for the eye area, you can later use this opacity mask with other figures who's Gs doesn't behave well. For ears apply the same opacity mask solution but only for the back of the ears. If you want your figure's ears more translucence you can use a translucency map

    HTH

    Thanks for the suggestions. I've worked on trying to fix this, without success. I haven't found any mesh offset that will prevent the poke through, unless it is so small it is ineffective for its original purpose. I tried the masking idea and was fairly successful around the eyes, but failed miserably on the ears. I couldn't guess where to mask when painting in Photoshop. Every attempt was wrong. And masked areas didn't look quite right in the final render of the character - kind of dull and grayish. Gianni is the only model I've seen this problem on so far. The girls' geoshells seem to work better.

    Here is an interesting render of the Gianni geoshell with mesh offset -0.2. Look what happens around the eyes and the fingernails. I was surprised.

     

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  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    dakkuuan said:

    Hey Jag would you mind posting the source for this?  I've always wanted to create scripts using Gshells but I'm not good with daz scripting.  Which is sad, I have a master's in computer science lmao.  

    Actually I used code from one of the sample scripts to create Geometry Shells at here.

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    edited December 2015
    barbult said:
    jag11 said:

    In most of the figures Geometry shells behave pretty good. In this case you can try two possible solutions, the first one would be setting Gs mesh offset to -.10 or -.15 to see if it helps. The other solution, is create an opacity mask for the Gs for the eye area, you can later use this opacity mask with other figures who's Gs doesn't behave well. For ears apply the same opacity mask solution but only for the back of the ears. If you want your figure's ears more translucence you can use a translucency map

    HTH

    Thanks for the suggestions. I've worked on trying to fix this, without success. I haven't found any mesh offset that will prevent the poke through, unless it is so small it is ineffective for its original purpose. I tried the masking idea and was fairly successful around the eyes, but failed miserably on the ears. I couldn't guess where to mask when painting in Photoshop. Every attempt was wrong. And masked areas didn't look quite right in the final render of the character - kind of dull and grayish. Gianni is the only model I've seen this problem on so far. The girls' geoshells seem to work better.

    Here is an interesting render of the Gianni geoshell with mesh offset -0.2. Look what happens around the eyes and the fingernails. I was surprised.

    I made one opacity map a couple of months ago, I'll post it when I get home.

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  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885
    edited December 2015

    Here is the opacity mask for face, can't find the one for ears. I'll come up with something. This opacity mask goes in GS's face opacity surface.

    HTH

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  • Tim NTim N Posts: 193

    Thanks for this.

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885

    For ears the best approach is create a morph to thicken the thinest ear parts, in reality ears are not as thin as Genesis 2 figures.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 14,958

    One approach I've taken is, instead of using a geoshell, make an actual copy of the figure, give it a push modifier of -.1, and then use one of those 'ear gone/ear bump' morphs you can find in various places.

     

  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885

    This is a comparison showing render results of three settings, left image is default scott materials as it loads, middle images is a render after applying Iray optimized mats, right image is a render after using the provided script. I used the one of FWSA Soft Light Probes. No other tweaking was made.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854

    I tried the eyes mask for the geoshell on Gianni, and that does the job for the eye poke through. Thank you, jag11. I haven't figured out how to make ears thicker.

    I was trying DS 4.9 earlier, now I'm back to good old reliable 4.8. My Gianni 6 with tune up is coming out very orange and saturated. I don't know where to look to try to fix this. Any suggestions? Perhaps I need to try the Image Editor gamma change.

    Oops, I had another problem. I loaded Michael 7 for skin tone comparison, so I could be sure it was not my lights that made Gianni 6 orange. When I positioned the two characters, I moved Gianni to one side and Michael 7 to the other side of the viewport. When I applied the tune up to Gianni, the geoshell did not get loaded in the correct position. I had to zero out the geoshell translation, since it is parented to Gianni.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854

    Look, I'm getting closer to what is pleasing to me, using the suggestions of gamma, SSS Reflectance tint, glossiness. He looks a little washed out now, so I probably took the gamma to low. Now I will keep working to make it better.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 23,854
    edited December 2015

    I sure have learned a lot in this thread. Thanks, jag11, for your script and hints for gamma, SSS tint, etc.

    My Gianni still has those pesky ear problems, but his skin is looking pretty good now, I think.

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  • jag11jag11 Posts: 885

    looks pretty good. I was traveling home, I hope to post the fix for ears tomorrow.

    Happy holidays

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