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Was Iray Nerfed to Work with DS?

Nyghtfall3DNyghtfall3D Posts: 776
in The Commons

I was just chatting with someone on another board about Iray and Stable Diffusion when I commented that I've often wondered if Daz had to nerf Iray when they licensed it so that it would work with DS.  I've never seen a Daz Iray render that looked half as good as nVidia's product demos.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,837

    Nerfed how? I am not aware of any way in which it was restricted, aside from suport for motion blur perhaps (I am not at all clear on that one). Shaders and lighting, of course, make a huge difference to the result.

  • Nyghtfall3DNyghtfall3D Posts: 776

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Nerfed how?

    By tweaking the underlying node trees that control how shaders look when rendered.

    Richard Haseltine said:

    I am not aware of any way in which it was restricted

    Good to know, thanks.

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Shaders and lighting, of course, make a huge difference to the result.

    And those are under content creators and us artists' control, right?

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,080
    edited March 28

    Unless you can do a side-by-side comparison of the exact same scene rendered in another Iray renderer, I don't think you can really prove that. Both Maya and 3dsmax have paid plugins for Iray rendering, btw. I don't know of any other programs that has free access to a Iray renderer like Daz Studio.  I don't think Poser 12 has iRay.  Blender, nope. iClone 8 has iRay, but it's packaged as Omniverse now?  I don't know what's up with that. But, anyway, Daz users should be thankful, because you can't find free access to iRay anywhere else.

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  • Nyghtfall3DNyghtfall3D Posts: 776

    Seven193 said:

    Unless you can do a side-by-side comparison of the exact same scene rendered in another Iray renderer, I don't think you can really prove that.

    Fair point.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,837

    You can build your own shaders with Sahder Mixer bricks, or if you have MDL code you can place it in a mapped MDL library folder and alt-drag it into Shader Mixer to load it as a custom brick and give it inputs ready for the Surfaces pane to adjust it.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206

    Substance has iray and while I don't have Substance I have seen many people complain DAZ renders of the same things do not look as good as in Substance where they textured them and created the same maps

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,837

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    Substance has iray and while I don't have Substance I have seen many people complain DAZ renders of the same things do not look as good as in Substance where they textured them and created the same maps

    I think the Substance lighting is harsher than the DS default, so fien details (displacement and bump/normals) are less obvious.

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