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I grabbed an 85% lightning deal an hour ago
still a sale albeit personalised
From what I've seen in my meager years here, flash sales are rare during the "monthly sale event" things, and we had PA Sale and now ex-Daz+ sale back to back.
....I'm feeling the same sort of "Daz sale burnout".
Yesterday I picked up one of the previous Door Buster items I didn't see when it was first offered that was on my wishlist (the Wild Rover Airship) and looked for something else to pair it with to get another token but it just became so tedious I just purchased the airship and called it a night.
Pretty much for the same reasons, lots of items I already passed over numerous times as I either had no use for them or they just didn't interest me (such as most characters [I design my own], "overly sexy stuff" and horror content).
I am one of those who hasn't totally jumped on the G9 train, however more due to being on a tight budget and having to buy so much over again. I've gone through this now 4 times now and it is getting harder and harder with the price increases.
I have a handful of G9 characters, but again, the more "unique" ones created by PAs like RawArt and Oso3D as well as the Essentials expansion, Shapes, and base Expressions to use them.
I must say, I hadn't figured I'd see better prices on DO and D+ stuff during the PA sale than during the actual Daz Anniversary sale.
Ten days left (plus whatever extensions they decide to drop on us to prolong the agony), maybe they'll prove me wrong.
Really looking forward to when they ditch the giant Premier advertisement you have to scroll eight miles through to get to the actual products...
I haven't associated flash sales to specific sales events. You could be right! It just seems like there are always flash sales during the month, and there haven't really been any lately. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I noticed the lack (or serious reduction) of flash sales during previous themed months, too... I guess they figure they're already giving us (supposedly) amazing deals and don't need them. With the 30/30 deal last month that made sense, but this sale could seriously use a couple. (Of course, the flash sales don't often do anything for me either... but it's a bit of excitement to see something different come up.)
UGH. Filtering addons and textures might not be possible, but at least they were clearly marked in their name. Now it seems that Daz is allowing items to not be clearly marked. "Touchable Louis" is actually a color expansion for dForce Louis Hair, and to me, it is frustrating that you have to click on the product to find out what it is. When the new PAs came, the argument for the mess was "too many products at the time to fix descriptions, readme's and everything else". I was already inclined to not buy the migrating PAs products because of that, and to see some didn't bother to match the standards of the store even after the migration... Sadly, the list of the PAs that are on my "will not buy" list is growing, but I'm also disappointed that Daz isn't trying to enforce its own naming standards. The more they don't, the more the shop will become a chaotic mess.
Overall this has been an underwhelming sale lately. I'm no longer anticipating a themed bundle this week.
I have zero sympathy for this one when it so sincerely puts a foot up the rear end of the customer experience (which also ultimately impacts PA sales).
Take the time. If it means longer before things get released, so be it. "We have standards except when it's too much of a hassle" is unprofessional.
Me too, but at least it was a valid argument. With a single item being added as a new release it's hard to argue that Daz couldn't enforce the naming rule.
In a way, it's Daz's and new PAs loss. Daz's because they lose money I might potentially spend, and PAs, because most of their names are now associated with "don't buy, their products aren't up to standards" perception both from the migration and from their new products (lack of descriptions and promo pictures up to the standards that Daz got us used to). That's pure laziness on the PAs part and showing unwillingness to do the work to match the store they're selling at.
The bad part? Some other migrating PAs that do their best at least with the new products (no excuse for the migration, though) are caught in the "don't buy from them" perception too.
All the "Touchable" products are texture expansions for hair, just like for example "VERSUS" and "InStyle" products are textures add-ons for clothes.
I agree that having a mention in the product name or some tag to mark them as add-ons would be useful though.
Sent it in with the suggestion
Yeah, the mass deactivation of some g9 Pro and Mega bundles today has me expecting to see them rearranged into the new smaller character and add-on style instead of a new bundle release.
I am apprehensive that this will be another Premier related thing, just what, I dread to find out ...
You have some examples?
https://www.daz3d.com/josies-band-life-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/nikolai-9-hd-santa-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/minerva-9-hd-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/josie-9-nightlife-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/josie-9-mega-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/dark-fairy-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/pixie-9-winter-fairy-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/minerva-9-hd-mega-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/nikolai-9-hd-mega-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/lawrence-9-hd-classic-military-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/lawrence-9-hd-sci-fi-military-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/lawrence-9-hd-urban-military-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/calypso-9-pro-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/tara-9-hd-succubus-starter-bundle
https://www.daz3d.com/tara-9-hd-succubus-pro-bundle
There's others like Walter 9, Lahr 9, but not all pro bundles have been deactivated.
Unlabeled add-ons, where you have to read the product page carefully to see they are texture sets, aren't just a Newly Migrated PA Issue but a Long-standing Daz Store Issue, and very annoying one, from at least the Generation 4 era. If you look at the PA's page they have offered hair texture add-ons named that way at Daz since V4/M4. I can confirm, having been around since the late Generation 3 days, that the whole Touchable line has been here for years. (Same for some other hair add-ons named similarly, that is "Adjective Hair Name.")
It's also a decades-old problem with clothing add-ons. Genesis 3 and later clothing texture sets append Texture Add-on, Expansion or something similar to the original model name. Many older clothing add-ons are called Very Different Name and may or may not have "for Base Outfit" in the name. Genesis 2 clothing texture sets IME often omit the "for ___." Made up example: Gothic Noble Affair is a texture expansion for The Grand Duke outfit.
Now, I agree with Joanna that add-ons should always be called out in the name. Products that don't waste time and money for us, the PAs, and Daz customer service. It isn't a new problem but an old one that has come back to haunt us, since Daz has an influx of new/returning PAs.
Other Sale Comments
Daz 3d has decided to mess with longtime bundles, as well as the Premier era "character bundles." Many G9 HD & mega bundles have been split up overnight. Examples include the Minerva & Nikolai Christmas bundles, as well as everything on the Bundle Upgrades page linked from the Premier Sale page (& eligible for the Premier free bundle perk). The 2 Christmas bundles are still in store as HD Add-on bundles, but minus the core figures. So if there are Inactives in your Wishlist, this may be why. The Sales Report thread has a full(er) list of affected bundles.
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Skipping the new plus/premier freebie. I don't need bodybuilder poses any more than I need additional model/cheesecake poses.
For more than a few years now, the majority if not all products on Daz have "[product name] texture add-on" or "[addon name] for [product name]". "Versus", "Touchable", etc. are not standarized and require shoppers to keep a list of the names some PAs use or dig into each product to make sure they're not buying something useless, and is something I haven't seen since Genesis 3 products. So, it's going backwards.
Thank you.
Yes, the unlabelled textures seem to have been an issue in the old, legacy generations. But from what I've seen, ever since G3, the naming was quite consistent, with the addons quite clearly marked in the name. I'm sure some products slipped by, but it seemed more of an exception than a rule. Now, with the new PAs coming in, it seems that half of them are trampling over the standards Daz seemed to have build over the last years. To me, as I said, it looks bad for both Daz (not enforcing the rules and cheapening their own brand) and the incoming PAs (a message of them not giving a "d" about the site and the customers who try to shop here).
Well, all these migrated products have kept the original name from the other place. Changing them to a new "standard" would have been even more confusing, especially if someone had bought it over there, and it appears here with a different name. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, but any necessary cross-referencing would be much appreciated.
As to the earlier generations here, many of those links were lost after the last store upgrade in 2020. I remember; it was Halloween, a full moon and the switch to Standard Time. What could go wrong?
Well, from the customer point of view, it's not my problem, and as a customer here, I appreciate (more like "appreciateD" I suppose) standards that Daz had in place. So, really, it would be the PAs problem to adjust their naming to fit Daz standards while preserving their naming. For example, I don't mind some "Touchable Textures for dForce Louis Hair" or "Versus Something Add-on for Some Other Product", because it makes it clear what it is and what for it is. The sheer fact that the PA didn't bother to care... With tens of thousands of products in store, one would think PAs would take a moment to make sure customers have no reason to decide to buy other products instead.
it appears to me DAZ is doing whatever they can to make shopping here more difficult as well as a helluva lot more expensive overall. They will needm more than a sale to keep a lot of their customers here the way its going, or they're trying to gain more high spender customers.
For some of the new Tutorial product they aded these nice indicators into the product images.
Maybe could become a standard too.... probably wishful thinking though. Obviousl issue with mixed product as well.
We just pointed out the "Add-On" being absent from the titles on newer products to Daz. I'm not sure that anything can be done with already released products, though, besides them being pointed out and reported.
If Evelyn for Genesis 8 Female can be renamed in the store to Aubree for Genesis 8 Female, I'm sure they can add a few words to these products.
There have also been several products renamed because the original names apparently triggered PayPal to decline payment on the grounds the sales violated trade laws.
(I am not joking. Havana Hair was renamed because US law embargoes most/all trade with Cuba and a set of ancient Egyptian props was renamed because PayPal seemed to think Daz and their customers were trading in ancient artifacts.)