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What Are People Based On?

mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
in Daz AI Studio
How are people generated in Daz AI? Are they based on photographs of real people or Daz products? I can use images for commercial purposes if they are based on Daz products and not real people.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,620

    The Loras are based on Daz-owned product art.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,750

    Richard Haseltine said:

    The Loras are based on Daz-owned product art.

    How does that work? I can type in a celebrity's name and get a good likenees, even if they don't have a digital version in the store. (see attached image of dwayne johnson, the rock)

    So they are producing a TON of art using products that DAZ does NOT have in it's market place? I say this as I can generate so many images of scenes that have items in them that DAZ does not sell. I can also generate images with clothing items that DAZ does not sell. 

    A LoRA is just training and enhancing the checkpoint used, so just because DAZ used their own art to train the LoRA does not mean that is all the user will get, only that the user can be more specific if they WANT to use DAZ items when they generate an image. Like if I wanted to tell the AI to genrate an image of victoria 9. If there is no LoRA for Victoria 9 plugged in, then my results woun't look anything like Victoria 9 unless there are a ton of Victoria 9 images on the internet.

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  • RobotHeadArtRobotHeadArt Posts: 917

    FSMCDesigns said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    The Loras are based on Daz-owned product art.

    How does that work? I can type in a celebrity's name and get a good likenees, even if they don't have a digital version in the store. (see attached image of dwayne johnson, the rock)

    So they are producing a TON of art using products that DAZ does NOT have in it's market place? I say this as I can generate so many images of scenes that have items in them that DAZ does not sell. I can also generate images with clothing items that DAZ does not sell. 

    A LoRA is just training and enhancing the checkpoint used, so just because DAZ used their own art to train the LoRA does not mean that is all the user will get, only that the user can be more specific if they WANT to use DAZ items when they generate an image. Like if I wanted to tell the AI to genrate an image of victoria 9. If there is no LoRA for Victoria 9 plugged in, then my results woun't look anything like Victoria 9 unless there are a ton of Victoria 9 images on the internet.

    Daz AI is Daz's LORAs over Stability's SDXL base model.  LORAs are like morphs, adding or changing the weights of the base model.  That's why you can generate things that SDXL has learned but are not in the LORAs.  Also, the model only knows what it was trained on, not how many pictures of something there is on the internet.  The training dataset for SDXL I do not believe has been disclosed but it contains both images from the internet and synthetically created images.

  • mwokeemwokee Posts: 1,275
    As I dig deeper I find in the settings you can select a character. Then in the text prompt I type PERSON [doing something] and that character is generated. Keep the prompt the same but change the character and that character is generated. So I think that will work. My problem now is I can't find any tutorials on how to generate images of the same caliber I'm seeing in the gallery. How do you learn good text prompting skills?
  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,750

    mwokee said:

    As I dig deeper I find in the settings you can select a character. Then in the text prompt I type PERSON [doing something] and that character is generated. Keep the prompt the same but change the character and that character is generated. So I think that will work. My problem now is I can't find any tutorials on how to generate images of the same caliber I'm seeing in the gallery. How do you learn good text prompting skills?

    The ones you probably see in the gallery are made with more advanced AI tools. Daz AI Studio is a basic AI generator at best Go here and see what is possible with more advanced options https://civitai.com/

    Many of the images and promo images there have the prompts used. While you may not have the same checkpoint or LoRA they used, you can try pasting some of the prompts to see what you get.

  • morareliezeramorareliezera Posts: 0

    I am curious about the character creation process in Daz AI. Do they use real images or Daz owned content? I need to know if I can use the generated images for commercial purposes if they are based on Daz products and not real people. duck life 

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,760

    The main Daz AI page reads that Daz3D partnered with StabilityAI to provide the tools.  And with the tools provided there are additional LoRa to focus the outputs on Daz Characters like Michael9 and Victoria9  and atleast 8 more daz character models.  Those are trained on Daz3d rendered outputs. 

    But if you do not click on the daz character's influence then the outputs will develop from the larger stabilityAI subset. 

    clicking Vic9,  and prompting

  • mikael-aronssonmikael-aronsson Posts: 564

    They use Daz owned products for the actual creation of the images.

    But all AI image creation tools are trained on everything they can get there hands on, usually not disclosed, but I am sure you can figure that part out and why they don't want to disclose where the training data comes from.

    On my websites I have a clear note at the top of all pages that the content is mine and cannot be used for AI training and I am sure all the big AI gun's respect this *huge amount of sarcasm*

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