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What were you expecting? It has beens tated multiple times - I'm pretty sure some of them in reply to your posts - that the 50x0 cards cannot be made to work in DS 4.x.x.x. There is nothing that the daz developers can do about this. I an sure when we get the next major version, even as a beta, it will be prominently announced - DS 4.x.x.x is not going to surreptitiously morph into that next major version whatever happens.
We have several Workstations in the office and 2 of them have the NVIDIA RTX 6000 - 48GB-Ram - And other similar. Why I mention this is because these are the best and fastest graphic cards out there for artists, especially if you want to do quick renders and make faster progres with Daz3D and other similar apps. However, it also depends on your system build. We only use dual CPU systems totaling 56, 48 and 40 cores on three difference workstations, and have a good 51GGB Ram. Then again, some design artists have less needs than others so to each their own. Mostly all Nvidia RTX cards are awesome. However, the RTX 5090 is mostly made for gamers, although you can use a different driver for designers on the Nvidia driver site. The RTX 6000 - 48GB Ram card is specifically made for fast, high end design, and way beyond. It's a beast and it's not cheap! Lol! Awesome graphics card, too! Cheers! - J
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I have been testing various AI Weights/Models on my local PNY GeForce RTX 4070 12GB, AM4 with 128GB RAM, and 2TB nvme SSD and from that I can say:
1) I will need a RTX 5080 or RTX 5090 with 32GB RAM.
2) Need a new consumer oriented AM5 socket motherboard with 16 core/32 hyperthreads and 256GB RAM.
3) 8TB nvme SSD x2, the size of those checkpoint can be very big.
Take my advice and read Richard Haseltine's recent comments in this discussion.. Yesterday I was just about to press the button on a new machine (that I can ill afford) equipped with a RTX 5070 and then I decided to check the forums.
He says (quite clearly and many, many times) 'the 50x0 cards cannot be made to work in DS 4.x.x.x.'
That's good enough for me. It's up to you what you buy but I'd hate for someone else to buy something they also probably can ill afford, only to find that it's not fit for the intended purpose.
Oh, I saw that. This PC would be a 2nd PC. For AI & development that would be offline. DAZ and such would be online with my current 4070 card.
This means, I'd be stuck with my 3060 12GB.
There is no 40xx RTX with 16GB or more availeble anymore and the 50xx generation won't work with DAZ Studio.
I am not a gamer, I don't even really care for computers unless it is about 3d stuff and DAZ studio is my most used app.
DAZ will better get a replacement for IRAY, that works with any GPU.
One other option would be to improve the Blender Link.
Oh wait.... paywall. Looks like I'*m out of here soon.
See you in the blender forum
does Filament and Filatoon work with it?
not that I can afford those cards but both actually work on my other PC without ar dedicated graphics card
so DAZ might be forced to develop Filament integration more fully if they want to stay relevent
...same here. The Ampere "A" series can also still make use of NVLink for memory pooling Yes the A6000 is expensive even though it is last generation, but the A5000 and even A4500 can also take advantage of NVLink.
I've been looking at the 4000 and 4500 Ada cards The single slot 4000 has 20 GB 6,144 shading units, and is currently priced about where some of the more higher end GTX cards are (I've even seen 16 GB 4070 TI Supers going for as much and even more).
The 4500 is a dual slot card (about 2,200 USD in price) for 24 GB and a shader unit count of 7.680
4000s are price and 1.200 - 1.350 USD on average while the 4,500 averages around 2,200.USD
Both "sip" power compared to the higher end GTX cards (particularly the 4090) with the 4500 having a TDP of 230 W and the 4000,130 W (about half of what my trusty old Titan-X uses at peak) True they are not as powerful (particularly for gaming) as their GTX counterparts. but could be an alternative given that GPU prices are on the rise again even for older refurbished cards.
For about double the price of the 4500m the Ada 5000 offers 32 GB of VAM (like the 5090) with 12,800 shading units and consumes a maximum of 250 W (same as my Titan-X) This is probably as close to a 5090 one could get that can still be used with Daz True the price is not for the faint of heart. or wallet
Both "sip" power compared to the the higher end GTX counterparts with the 4500 having a TDP of 230 W and the 4000, 130 W (about half of wha my trusty old Titan-X uses at peak) True they are not as powerful (particularly for gaming) as their GTX counterparts, but could be an alernative given that GPU prices are for some reason on the rise again even for older refrubished cards.
To increase the "drool factor", Nvidia is in development of it's first pro grade GPU based on the new Blackwell architecture with their flagship RTX 6000 workstatio ncard which is expected to have 96 GB of GDDR7. Time to buy a Powerball ticket or two.
They should work, but whether they would greatly benefit I don't know.
Well, we have a couple of things in common. I’m not a gamer either and in spite of being a retired systems manager I no longer care much for computers either. My current PC is a 12 year old HP Envy with 16Gb memory and a NVIDIA GeForce 750 Ti with 2Gb. Needless to say it no longer passes muster. I can render a single clothed figure but I have to save the scene, shut down Daz and occasionally restart the PC and then open Daz and reload the scene to get a result. I also use Zbrush (kosher, pre annual fee version) which still plods along quite nicely.
I’m not sure you are right about the 40xx – I’m looking at this supplier as a source for a new machine
https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/
and they list a
16GB Zotac GEForce RTX 4060 Twin Edge – HDMI, 3 *DP
and also a
16GB MSI GEForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2* Black OC – HDMI, 3 *DP
That probably makes more sense to you than it does to me. There’s a bit of a lead time on these cards but nothing too bad.
I think Richard also says that you need at least 4 times more System RAM than you have GPU memory. That sounds like good advice too. If you haven’t already done so, I should take a look at some of the better considered opinions in these discussions. A lot of what I see posted here is fluff and white noise. some of which will quite likely lead some people to buy a not fit for purpose 50xx
I don’t know where you are in the world, if you’re not in UK it might not be much help and I don’t really know anything about the supplier so I can’t recommend them, but their website is worth a look.
That makes sense. Darn, I wish I could afford 2 machines. I'm looking at a 4060 in my next machine. Do you have any idea how that would compare to your 4070?
I would love to see this happen! I can't speak to the relevance issue, but I did request improved Filament integration as my closing request on the last survey.