PBR settings for DAZ Studio

kenmo

I often import OBJ models I either obtained or modeled myself which have PBR materials. Importing them into Vue it is quite easy to assign PBR materials. However in DAZ I find the SURFACE/COLOR controls for materials too confusing and overwhelming. Is there a way to have only the diffuse, bump, normal, displacement, alpha, metalicity, roughness controlas? I am not interestied in all the other clutter.  IMHO  I do not need  them as in other 3D apps do not have this clutter. I believe in keeping things as simple as possible.

And please do not reply that I ould use another app to assign the materials before importing. I've tried this using 3D Coat and exporting to OBJ. Importing into DAZ often does not assign the materials  properly desipite having a proper .MTL file for the OBJ.

Cheers

Kenmo

 

Richard Haseltine

If you are using Iray Uber base most property groups have a strength slider - set that to zero and the associated proeprties will be hidden (assuming you don't have Show Hidden Proerpties on in the Surface pane's option menu>Preferences).

OBJ has a very limited selection of surface properties, so that would not be expected to work.

kenmo

Thanks kindly, I'll give that a try. 

kenmo

Using the Uber base worled but sliders with a zero setting still display and is still very cluttered. I would like to turn this clutter off permentately as the other settings are completely useless to me as I render in e-onsoftware's Vue. But prefer to set my characters, props and scenes in Vue.

All I see for hidden is "PREFERENCES-->CONTENT---> Show Hidden Vendor Categorizations". And mine is not checked.

TheKD

I believe this is the show hidden richard is talking about

kenmo

Thanks, I checked and I do not have "Show Hidden Properties" enabled.

Love DAZ, they have super sales and excellent items. But DAZ Studio is too clunky and cluttered for me. 

I wish they offered a simpler and lighter version of Studio.

The material options should stick to the simle industry standards like most 3D apps use.

If I could pose characters in Vue, I wouldn't even fire up Studio. And use Blender for setting my scenes.

Richard Haseltine

Well, the Iray Uber base is an industry standard shader at heart as far as I know - but someone probably could set a file up that would give a number of proeprties "sensible" defaults to work with just the properties you want, and then hide them, without needing a whole new shader (properties shown are down to the shader). Come to that, you could make you own - click the gear icon on the slider for soemthing you don't need>Parameter Settings, then  check Hidden and click Accept.

kenmo

Richard - Thanks kindly for the assistance, however I would not want to go through the properies settings every time I load an OBJ I created or purchased elsewhere.  I do purchase items via DAZ's store and most of those require the Iray settings. I was hoping they had an option like Vue does where from a drop down menu you select "PR Material", "Simple Material", "Volumetric", "Ecosystem", etc. DAZ could have "Iray", "3Delight", "PBR-Metalic", "PBR-Specular".

I truly do not need alot of the clutter and it creates confusion for my 71 year old brain. When I fire up Rebelle 7, DAZ Studio, Vue, 3D Coat, Hexagon, Blender  I only want to create art and not findle around with a bunch of technical settings,

I spent 35 years as a database programmer (dbase, Foxpro, Clipper, Force Xbase,Vbasic/SQL) and systems admin (Novell Netware, Citrix Winframe, Netware on SUSE and Windows server on Vmware) and when I retired I did not want to learn too many newer technologies which then become redundant in a few years. The only real computer stuff I do is build and upgrade my own home computers.

I simply want to relaz any enjoy myself in DAZ or Vue and not be frustrated.

Perhaps someone is developing an open source alternative to DAZ Studio which would be much more user friendly.

Cheers and all he very best...

Kenmo

 

 

Richard Haseltine

kenmo said:

Richard - Thanks kindly for the assistance, however I would not want to go through the properies settings every time I load an OBJ 

You do it once, for example on a promitiuve, then you save a Shader preset from that, probably make it a custom action (right-click on the preset in the Content Library to add it to a chosen menu), and apply it to any newly-imported model to get the same settings.

I created or purchased elsewhere.  I do purchase items via DAZ's store and most of those require the Iray settings. I was hoping they had an option like Vue does where from a drop down menu you select "PR Material", "Simple Material", "Volumetric", "Ecosystem", etc. DAZ could have "Iray", "3Delight", "PBR-Metalic", "PBR-Specular".

I truly do not need alot of the clutter and it creates confusion for my 71 year old brain. When I fire up Rebelle 7, DAZ Studio, Vue, 3D Coat, Hexagon, Blender  I only want to create art and not findle around with a bunch of technical settings,

I spent 35 years as a database programmer (dbase, Foxpro, Clipper, Force Xbase,Vbasic/SQL) and systems admin (Novell Netware, Citrix Winframe, Netware on SUSE and Windows server on Vmware) and when I retired I did not want to learn too many newer technologies which then become redundant in a few years. The only real computer stuff I do is build and upgrade my own home computers.

I simply want to relaz any enjoy myself in DAZ or Vue and not be frustrated.

Perhaps someone is developing an open source alternative to DAZ Studio which would be much more user friendly.

Cheers and all he very best...

Kenmo

 

 

kenmo

Richard Haseltine said:

You do it once, for example on a promitiuve, then you save a Shader preset from that, probably make it a custom action (right-click on the preset in the Content Library to add it to a chosen menu), and apply it to any newly-imported model to get the same settings.

Thanks for the reply, but as I said before, I would prefer to work on the art side and less on the technical side.I retired from technology in 2018 and now want to use my computer for leisure and enjoyment.

I will avoid using DAZ Studio and use it only when I need to or until DAZ offers a more lightwight version of DAZ Studio There are too many features and functions in DAZ that I have NEVER used. And NEVER will. Too much bloat and clutter in Studio, not unlike the current versions of Photoshop. Other 3D apps are simply more user friendly, Poser being the exception and I own Poser but NEVER use Poser.

I will consider this thread close and there is no sensible solution to an request that conforms to industry standards.

Cheers & many thanks 

Kenmo