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Tutorial for Creating Hair and Clothing for DAZ Studio Models

LiminalityLiminality Posts: 3
edited March 2016 in Daz Studio Discussion

I would like to know if there is a actual tutorial on creating hair and clothing for DAZ Sudio Models for either Gnesis 2 or 3. Please note that I am only looking for tutorial documentation and not any links or refferences fot products or anything that is onl the daz studio site for sale.

Also, pleser not include any links that leads to any videos which does not have any sound or written documentation.

Thank yiou,

Post edited by Liminality on

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116

    What exactly are you needing? If you know how to model, then the only difference is on the daz side as far as rigging/weights/etc. If you don't know how to model then you'd probably want to figure out what app and such you plan on working with and at least learn the basics first.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,263

    You will definitely need good modeling skills. You aren't going to find much. There are some basic tutorials. You will just need to search the web and YouTube. YouTube is probably your best bet. What modeling app do you plan on using for the models. There is quite a bit that goes into creating hair and cloths.

  • JQPJQP Posts: 512

    OT: I just made an OT comment on this issue in another thread, so I suppose another wouldn't hurt.  I'd like to see the issue approached from the exact opposite POV: a learning series geared toward modifying existing DS content. Converting V4 clothing to G3, improving fit, adding morphs, altering a conforming figure, etc. I don't want to learn a whole suite to do this stuff. I'd much rather see someone else doing the tasks I want to do, and learn a suite that way. Seems a waste to learn a bunch of stuff I might not need, and seems more efficient to learn in bite-sized pieces. Learning an entire suite defers payoff too far down the road.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    JQP said:

    OT: I just made an OT comment on this issue in another thread, so I suppose another wouldn't hurt.  I'd like to see the issue approached from the exact opposite POV: a learning series geared toward modifying existing DS content. Converting V4 clothing to G3, improving fit, adding morphs, altering a conforming figure, etc. I don't want to learn a whole suite to do this stuff. I'd much rather see someone else doing the tasks I want to do, and learn a suite that way. Seems a waste to learn a bunch of stuff I might not need, and seems more efficient to learn in bite-sized pieces. Learning an entire suite defers payoff too far down the road.

    I suggest look up anything by SickleYield. That woman is a goddess when it comes to refitting clothing among generations.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293

    To do original morphs, original hair, or original clothing you will need to learn Blender or Hexagon at a basic level. Search for Darren Lile or David Ward on YouTube. You can learn the basics is 2 -4 weeks. Practice will make you good at it.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited March 2016
    JQP said:

    OT: I just made an OT comment on this issue in another thread, so I suppose another wouldn't hurt.  I'd like to see the issue approached from the exact opposite POV: a learning series geared toward modifying existing DS content. Converting V4 clothing to G3, improving fit, adding morphs, altering a conforming figure, etc. I don't want to learn a whole suite to do this stuff. I'd much rather see someone else doing the tasks I want to do, and learn a suite that way. Seems a waste to learn a bunch of stuff I might not need, and seems more efficient to learn in bite-sized pieces. Learning an entire suite defers payoff too far down the road.

    Oh yes - completely agree. I've made so many false starts only to be overwhelmed by the learning curve. Not knowing where to start, when to model, when to sculpt, when to morph or when to rig, JCMs, weight mapping, how to create textures for existing models, 3Dpaint apps or Photoshop/Gimp ... on and on.

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited March 2016
    nonesuch00 said:

    To do original morphs, original hair, or original clothing you will need to learn Blender or Hexagon at a basic level. Search for Darren Lile or David Ward on YouTube. You can learn the basics is 2 -4 weeks. Practice will make you good at it.

    Just want to add that it doesn't have to be Blender or Hexagon, those are just free packages, of which a lot of people will also vouch for Wings3D. Most commercial modeling programs are also very capable of creating items.

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  • LiminalityLiminality Posts: 3
    nonesuch00 said:

    To do original morphs, original hair, or original clothing you will need to learn Blender or Hexagon at a basic level. Search for Darren Lile or David Ward on YouTube. You can learn the basics is 2 -4 weeks. Practice will make you good at it.

    nonesuch00, Thank you for your professional answer to my inquriy. I actually have Blender but normally use it for other purposes. I have reviewed Darren Lile's videos and will be starting with his tutorials. I also, breefly looked at the specs for Hexagon but have decidedf to continue to use Blender. :)

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,293
    devops said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    To do original morphs, original hair, or original clothing you will need to learn Blender or Hexagon at a basic level. Search for Darren Lile or David Ward on YouTube. You can learn the basics is 2 -4 weeks. Practice will make you good at it.

    nonesuch00, Thank you for your professional answer to my inquriy. I actually have Blender but normally use it for other purposes. I have reviewed Darren Lile's videos and will be starting with his tutorials. I also, breefly looked at the specs for Hexagon but have decidedf to continue to use Blender. :)

     

    Cool, that'll get you far enough to do DAZ morphs, hair, and texturing in a couple of months just stick with it. For hair, I recommend you learn nVidia HairWorks and use the free 3rd party Blender converter/exporter for Hairworks (search Blender & Hairworks & you'll find it). Also, beyond the basics and once you finish the basics from Darrin Lile, there are also specific tutorials for Blender making hair & clothing & textures and lots of them on YouTube. Also, for hair in DAZ Studio directly there is the Look at my Hair product for $50.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    CG Cookie is a great resource for Blender. IMO it's the best, but that is just my opinion. Another good one is Blender Guru.

    They have a number of free as well as paid tutorials. http://cgcookie.com/blender/ or http://www.blenderguru.com/video-category/tutorials

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    nicstt said:

    CG Cookie is a great resource for Blender. IMO it's the best, but that is just my opinion. Another good one is Blender Guru.

    They have a number of free as well as paid tutorials. http://cgcookie.com/blender/ or http://www.blenderguru.com/video-category/tutorials

    Both are great...although CG Cookie's output seems to be a bit lower (at least the free ones) recently.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited March 2016
    mjc1016 said:
    nicstt said:

    CG Cookie is a great resource for Blender. IMO it's the best, but that is just my opinion. Another good one is Blender Guru.

    They have a number of free as well as paid tutorials. http://cgcookie.com/blender/ or http://www.blenderguru.com/video-category/tutorials

    Both are great...although CG Cookie's output seems to be a bit lower (at least the free ones) recently.

    Yeh?

    Not been paying attention; I started subscribing about four or five years ago, although not taken advantage this last year. It wasn't expecsive, especially considering it was for a year. The quality was amazing.

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  • JQPJQP Posts: 512
    Man, is Wings still around? I played with that YEARS ago. It was the easiest modeling experience ever. Well, until I tried Sketchup.
  • LiminalityLiminality Posts: 3
    nonesuch00 said:
    devops said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    To do original morphs, original hair, or original clothing you will need to learn Blender or Hexagon at a basic level. Search for Darren Lile or David Ward on YouTube. You can learn the basics is 2 -4 weeks. Practice will make you good at it.

    nonesuch00, Thank you for your professional answer to my inquriy. I actually have Blender but normally use it for other purposes. I have reviewed Darren Lile's videos and will be starting with his tutorials. I also, breefly looked at the specs for Hexagon but have decidedf to continue to use Blender. :)

     

    Cool, that'll get you far enough to do DAZ morphs, hair, and texturing in a couple of months just stick with it. For hair, I recommend you learn nVidia HairWorks and use the free 3rd party Blender converter/exporter for Hairworks (search Blender & Hairworks & you'll find it). Also, beyond the basics and once you finish the basics from Darrin Lile, there are also specific tutorials for Blender making hair & clothing & textures and lots of them on YouTube. Also, for hair in DAZ Studio directly there is the Look at my Hair product for $50.

    While learning this and then approaching my search from a different angle. Found a tutorial on how to make hair in Cycles via Blender

    http://bit.ly/22x2fNZ

    I'm not sure what sort of use I can make out of this yet since I'm still going throught the turorial but for now I will put it as a "nice to have" skill utnil otherwise.

  • handyman4545handyman4545 Posts: 408

    All that being said, I need a specific hair for a G8M that I cannot find in DAZ or Rendo.

    I need a military top cut with close shave on the sides and back AND a mustache w/ beard (beard shaved down the center 1" wide.
    Can anybody help with sugestions or pointers to the product?

    Handyman

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