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If you're investing in a new monitor, don't go less than 2560 x 1440 27 inch... I have 2 ASUS PB278Q 27", i'v e had them for a few years now and are very reliable. BH photo sells them at 405, but you can usually find them on craigslist for around $250 to $300.
Now i'm working with a philps 4k 40 inch monitor... got in on sale for $550... now that's a monitro!!!.... very happy with it..
Rob has said that he is working on the text issue, but it is not a simple fix, so will take time to get it done, with all his other work load to get through.
I'm surprised you don't get neck strain from constantly looking up. That setup looks extremely uncomfortable.
I have a 27" HP E271i. I really like it. It can drop down right to the base or go up pretty high. Non reflective screen too.
Nyghtfall, I put that screen up there as a test. I usually just have the TV programs going up there. Come to think of it, that's probably why I always have a sore neck?!
That's an impressive looking setup Ron, but it looks like you really need a proper desk or something. :)
I have the one monitor and a Cintiq below it, but I never really liked the idea of multiple monitors for work when they're decent sized. I'd rather not have to turn my head much, and whenever I tried putting the panels on the Cintiq for example, I couldn't get used to it. One workspace with everything on it is best for me.
SnowSultan, you're right. I already had an accident with my 27" iMac. I had it propped up higher so I could get the builtin iSight camera at the right level. I turned it out so I could get to the connectors, and it fell. It took a chip out of the edge of the screen. Fortunately it still works. You don't notice it till you look closely. Yeah, time to get a desk. Gotta save some money.
Nikalaman, could you post a link to your 40" monitor (is it a monitor or a TV?) if possible? Thanks.
Resurrecting this thread to provide a short review.
At $450 it was a little pricey; but I did get the 27" Asus MX27AQ recommended by Nyghtfall. Mostly I use it with the 1920 x 1080 preset for everyday work including DAZ Studio; but I can easily change the resolution to 2560 x 1440 when I need / want better definition for photos and video. Overall, I really like this monitor and would recommend it.
There was almost no light bleed with only a slightly brighter area in the upper left corner. The picture is excellent but I did have some difficulty getting a good color calibration set up. The built-in speakers are adequate but nothing spectacular. So, if you want to use it for entertainment I would recommend using a different speaker system.
Thanks again to everybody for their recommendations and help.
Charlie
Just read that and although it's bit late.. he most probably is talking about the Philips BDM4065UC , as beside the Iiyama ProLite X4071UHSU there are no other 4K 40" desktop monitors with UHD 3840x2160 pixels available, at least none I know of two months ago (there are some for wall mounting, but those are meant for displays in stores etc). If I remember correct only the Iiyama has a HDMI 2.0 port, which is needed for 60Hz on HDMI, but both have Display Port 1.2 that can handle 60Hz as well. I usually love to work with Iiyama monitors (for more than 20 years now since 19" CRT and never got a defect), but the problem with both these monitors is that they have VA panels inside (I think they even share the same brand/model), which are not as good as IPS technology.
Few days ago Philips has released a brandnew 43" monitor with 4K IPS panel technology, 2 x DisplayPort + 2 HDMI 2.0 MHL + 1 x VGA analog, 4x USB 3.0 HUB and 10bit color depth (1.07 billion colors). Price is almost the same as 40", here in Europe it's about 699€, but amazon and most resellers still don't have at stock. Nice feature is, it cannot only connect two computers for PIP (picture in picture), but also 4 computers that can share the screen with all showing up in Full-HD then. Btw. this monster monitor is named Philips BDM4350UC, unfortunately I couldn't find any review yet, but I found some reseller in Germany who already had at stock and ordered one that should arrive on Tuesday, will see how that works with my new GTX970 then. :)
Edit: If I dont like that 43" Philips one and have to send back, I'd go for a 34" 3440 x 1440 monitor, maybe the Dell UltraSharp which also has the 10bit color depth. Not sure on that though.
OK i have a question about Aspect Ratio and Pixels, both being ways to size the screen for rendering in full screen mode and editing mode, now first i will state i am using a 50 inch ultra 4k LED smart T.V, it's basically a gaint PC monitor that works with all tech, i made sure the brand i bought was compatable with all currently used technologys, i also am using an 8GB 1080 Nivida Strix GPU for my graphics rendering and just have the stock standard 8 GB ram on the motherboard with an old Extream Intel 3.2 GHz quad core 64Bit CPU, "which i don't have a problem running anything with the correctly installed software", that being said i was trying to fill the render screen by altering the aspect ration and pixel size to fit the primative size of the screen, now if i use the preset for 4K ultra HD it gives me the standard pixel size and aspect ratio one would expect when selecting for that resolution but it doesn't fill the screen when i render it for a test in full screen mode using the New Window function. Now i have chnaged the ratio to try and get it to fit to the full size of the screen and the closest i can get to filling the screen is Apect Ratio 69.00 Width 39.00 Height, which is still most of the screen yet it doesn't fill it to the edges it's like 3 milimeters off the edges on all sides, even if i set it some insane amount like 5000 width and height it never seems to fill the full screen render screen or editing screens.
Is the only way to get true aspect is save the render as it's own file in the render library or do i somehow have to find some magic number to fill the screen size without having to save the file to the library.
I also know if your using camera's or have switched to a new camera the ratio changes again for that specific camera and you need to set each camera your using to the right aspect ratio you want or you just get what the cam is defaulted too which isn't my issue, it's more an issue when using the free roam perspective view with no cameras that i want full screen renders. I have read you can render the picture larger then the screen but thats only when saving the file not when you just flick over for a render test, I was also wondering is there a list for best aspect ratio's to use according to screen size in Inch's or Centermeters.
Cameras won't have different values unless you make them different - by default they use the values from Render Settings.
Can't you just set the image size to match the screen resolution, with the Constrain option off so the Aspect ratio updates to match the size? The render window isn't going to fill the screen, at that size it will always have scrol bars.
I was using dual HD monitors, but they both started showing "pink eye" disease. I got a single Samsung U32 class 4K UHD monitor. It's way nicer. You can change the size of text and apps in the Windoze control panel, so it's not a problem on the eyes. Now, I'm suffering longer run times to get 4K images, LoL!
I agree on the 1920x1200, the 120 extra vertical pxels does make a difference - I have three old HP:s next to each others and using Studio is so much better than even with two, one just doesn't give you the real estate to spread all the menus and windows efficiently. Bigger resolution just makes the text and UI elements smaller to a point of being unreadable.
I have a 32" 4k Acer Predator w/ G-SYNC and I don't have an issue with too-small icons. You can easily change the UI style via the Windows menu, but even at "normal" it appears fine to me.
UI scaling is pretty good now, you might run intio the odd older program that still looks bad.
I'm much happier with my 4k monitor than I was with my dual monitor setup at work.
I ordered a Lenovo P24H-10 monitor yesterday. It obviously hasn't arrived so I cannot vouch for it, but the specs look good. It's a 24 inch monitor, quad HD (2560 x 1440) with USB-C, 2HDMI, DP and DP out. I particularly wanted the USB-C option so I can charge my MacBook and drive an external display via one cable. Total price with shipping and tax was $301.00.
https://www.provantage.com/lenovo-61aegar3us~7LEN9M3H.htm
https://content.etilize.com/Manufacturer-Brochure/1038741424.pdf
I have 2 Samsung 28 inches dual display's & yes the daz UI text is darn hard to see..lol most browsers and software allow for hotkey +/- to enlarge or decrease the screen resolutions . I wish Studio would use that type feature.
That's a very small monitor for 1440p. Just be prepared.
I know, but the space that this will be used in is pretty limited. A 27 or 28 inch monitor is too overwhelming (I've tried it). This is for a small closet converted to a workspace and I really wanted the USB-C functionality. We'll see.
I think the point is that anything less than say 27" or so really won't lend an improvement with image fidelity simply because the screen size is so small (compare a really crappy low rez YouTube video on your TV to that of the same video displayed on your teeny phone screen...it will look night and day better on the phone). What will happen, though, is that you will find that your text and user interfaces will look much, much smaller because the screen is so small to begin with.
At work I have a Dell 4k 27". I have had to set the thing back to 2k because I got blinding headaches every day. Just too small for me.
This. If I was buying a 23 I'd stick with 1080p. The screen is just too small.
This is actually timely, as I am thinking about upgrading my monitor (to use for both work and home use). I've thought about getting one that would be used for gaming, or would that be overkill?
Also, I keep seeing the Sceptre monitors appear (Example: https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Curved-Monitor-Speakers-C248W-1920RN/dp/B07KXSR99Y/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&fst=as:off&qid=1590711708&refinements=p_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin:17751775011|17751777011&rnid=17751770011&s=pc&sr=1-18).
Does anyone have any info on those? The prices are inline with about what I want to pay before taxes/shipping & handling
This is exactly why I have to laugh about advertising gimmicks for smartphones these days having screen resolutions above 1080p. I've heard that some of the new phones can take OMG 8K VIDEO!!! LOL. Like...why. Talk about eating up your battery and the entire memory section of your phone in 5min.
I've had my LG 34" Ultrawide 2560x1080 for several years now and would never go back to a standard widescreen format. For productivity and gaming it's just a perfect size and format. So much screen space in Daz for editing and I don't even have it full screen. Other things like browser, PDFs, spotify etc they're usually always half screen snapped to either side.
After mucking around with some settings i find the 50 inch screen adjust's nicely to using 15.0 / 8.0 aspect ratio works best for just full screen sample shots, if i actually render a full 4k dimension the picture is like full lifesize, the models are basically human scale, looks nice on my new machine with a 2080ti card.
I like how you can render an IMAX picture, them screens are stories in dimension.
One of the big things to consider about screen size vs. resolution:
Screen size / screen resolution / viewing distance :
Lets say you decide to use you computer as a living room media center. Sitting on your chouch that 60 inch 4k TV looks perfectly detailed with everything readable in windows.
If you sit about 3 feet away from a 28 inch computer monitor it will look to be the same size as the 60 inch does from your couch.
17 inch laptop screen? 27 inches away, it appears the same size as the TV
Now you hold your 6 inch phone screen 9 inches away from your face, the screen is the same apparent size as a 60" TV.
At these distances all of these screen sizes will show the exact same level of detail @ the same screen resolution.
Phones have very good OS scaling built in. The goal with your phone screen is to make the individual pixels indistinguishable from each other, this way all you see is the intended image with no visible stair stepping on high contrast edges.
Now to the real point... 1080p 1440p 2160p / 16x9, 16x10 / 60Hz, 120Hz, 144Hz? That's all personal prefernce.
The most important thing in the graphic design world is accurate color reproduction. Make sure to do your research and if you are running multiple monitors make sure they are either the same or can be callibrated to reproduce the same colors. For your own sanity try and find monitors that gets as close as posible to 100% Adobe RGB
Out of all the screens in my house, my two favorites are my phone and my laptop.
Laptop = Dell Precision 7710 (17" 2160p Sharp IGZO screen that does 100% Adobe RGB) The color reproduction on this thing is amazing!
Phone = Oneplus 7t Pro (1440p OLED) OLED is the way to go if you can afford one.
Next in line are my pair of 1080p Sharp Quattron TVs
Re: Your original question: I just picked up an LG 27" 1440p ips display for 270 on amazon and it looks great. It definitely helps with seen fine details in my renders and because it has 99% color accuracy I know what the actual colors will look like when I render. Print is kind of small but I'm still young and that doesn't bother my eyes. Keep in mind I'm using an RTX 2070 super so your milage may very. Good luck chosing a monitor!
To be fair, you could view that 8k video on a 8k 70" TV to see it in all its glory. Its also a good excuse to get a TB size microSD card for the phones that still do microSD. I've recorded 4K videos just so I can watch them on a bigger display. My phone has a 4K 60 frames per second mode, which can eat up data, too.
Honestly, 1440p at 23" is totally fine. I do not have amazing vision and I can clearly see the difference in 1080p and 1440p tablets with much smaller screens, so a 23" size screen would stand out more. It depends on how close you are to the screen.
And duuuuuuuuuude you need to upgrade that closet man. I have an idea. You can get a mounting extending arm that extend itself beyond the doorway of the closet. The arm should be able able to tilt a full 180 degrees so you can turn the monitor sideways. So you could get a screen that is as big as 32" and turn it sideways...a 32" screen will about about as tall as a 24" screen is wide. You can get a monitor that can fit sideways into that closet space. Bonus points on if the monitor can also be rotate the image to match, then you could have some more screen space in a creative way. But you can also extend that screen outside the closet space and tilt it normally, giving you a larger screen when you can do this. You could also do an extender for the keyboard and mouse, so the whole thing can just fold in and out of the closet space as needed. Is this possible for you? I think it would be pretty rad.
Otherwise I would be tearing down walls.