Koshini Question

In there store there are a bunch of items mentioning that they're for Koshini 2, but there is only a Koshini on sale. Ichiro is marked as Ichiro 2 also containing Ichiro, but she isn't. So is http://www.daz3d.com/koshini just v1 or does it have the Koshini 2 whatever makes it 2 too?

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116

    Koshini 2 and Ichiro 2 are part of Poser default content when you buy Poser. At least that's how I got mine.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    The product file list says it includes Koshimi 1 and 2 so I grabbed it anyway and I'll try them out later and hope all the bits work together I guess~

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Vaskania said:

    Koshini 2 and Ichiro 2 are part of Poser default content when you buy Poser. At least that's how I got mine.

    http://www.daz3d.com/koshini-upgrade-for-poser-7-users

    http://www.daz3d.com/ichiro-poser-7-user-upgrade

    (Why anybody whould buy these now that the full Koshini/Ichiro are at the same price - I don't know)

  • ItsTravelerItsTraveler Posts: 184

    The main packs for Koshini and Ichiro contain both the 1 & 2 versions. :)

    Iray shader freebies for them are incoming, LOL
    (Downloaded mine yesterday, and will get some tasty Iray shaders ready for them by tomorrow for everyone!)

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973

    Anyone who knows where to find textures for Koshini? Never been able to find any either at RDNA or Rendo. Several nice ones on some of the RDNA promos so they do exist.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    Okay, after some effort I managed to rescue her from the horrifying depths of the Poser folder system (hahaha, pose section.)

    Still not entirely sure on the differences between K1 and K2 yet (I mean I guess one is newer, maybe the morphs are a bit different?)

    - Anime eyes and blind eyes work on both K1 and K2. "real eyes" don't work on either?
    - No idea what the difference between P4 and PP shaders are but they both work so whatever.
    - I guess the refits section is to adjust K1 clothing you own for K2? Some of them work for me some give me not found errors since I don't have all the outfits.

    Everything's kind of a mess because Poser folders are hideous but the only real issue I've come across is that the "real eyes" don't seem to want to apply to either figure regardless of what I do.

     

     

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Taozen said:

    Anyone who knows where to find textures for Koshini? Never been able to find any either at RDNA or Rendo. Several nice ones on some of the RDNA promos so they do exist.

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Koshini

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Koshini_2

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Ichiro

     

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    Kerya said:
    Taozen said:

    Anyone who knows where to find textures for Koshini? Never been able to find any either at RDNA or Rendo. Several nice ones on some of the RDNA promos so they do exist.

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Koshini

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Koshini_2

    https://poserdazfreebies.miraheze.org/wiki/Ichiro

    Great, thank you!

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    edited April 2016
    lx said:

    Okay, after some effort I managed to rescue her from the horrifying depths of the Poser folder system (hahaha, pose section.)

    Still not entirely sure on the differences between K1 and K2 yet (I mean I guess one is newer, maybe the morphs are a bit different?)

    - Anime eyes and blind eyes work on both K1 and K2. "real eyes" don't work on either?
    - No idea what the difference between P4 and PP shaders are but they both work so whatever.
    - I guess the refits section is to adjust K1 clothing you own for K2? Some of them work for me some give me not found errors since I don't have all the outfits.

    Everything's kind of a mess because Poser folders are hideous but the only real issue I've come across is that the "real eyes" don't seem to want to apply to either figure regardless of what I do.

    AFAIK PP shaders are for Poser Pro, though I haven't noticed any difference between the P4/PP versions in PP2010 and 2012.

    And for K1/K2 they have different UV's (Kiki 2 can share textures with Koshini 2).

    Attached the product page info from RDNA for the Koshini 2 Upgrade, not really sure about the difference between this one and the DAZ version):

     

     

     

    Koshini2_RDNA.jpg
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  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    edited April 2016

    Thanks! That's super helpful!

     

    Man, I really want to support Lady Littlefox since she has so many interesting and unique characters (and there are still a few I want that haven't appeared yet) but dealing with these old files is such an immense headache. Since Genesis 1-2 Studio files have been so much better organised (and they're all labelled individually so you know what each file does regardless of its filename etc.)

     

    Update:

    After a bit more messing around, the chest morphs on Kishini2 don't seem to work properly at all, but they work fine on K1. The waist one works fine if you've clicked on the waist but not the chest, so I thought I might be on the wrong area, but haven't had any luck making the others work properly at all. 

    Still can't get "real eyes" to load any sort of shader for either model; no idea what I'm doing wrong there. All of the other eyes work just fine on either model.

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  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    Also, I'm giving up and going to bed now, but if anyone can locate the Kiki Clothing Pack 1 Romper Suit and/or Kishini Clothing Pack 2: Sugar & Spice, I'd love to know where they're hiding, because I've just spent way too long trawling through the Poser "folder system" and the Products menu searching.

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,823
    Taozen said:
    lx said:

    Okay, after some effort I managed to rescue her from the horrifying depths of the Poser folder system (hahaha, pose section.)

    Still not entirely sure on the differences between K1 and K2 yet (I mean I guess one is newer, maybe the morphs are a bit different?)

    - Anime eyes and blind eyes work on both K1 and K2. "real eyes" don't work on either?
    - No idea what the difference between P4 and PP shaders are but they both work so whatever.
    - I guess the refits section is to adjust K1 clothing you own for K2? Some of them work for me some give me not found errors since I don't have all the outfits.

    Everything's kind of a mess because Poser folders are hideous but the only real issue I've come across is that the "real eyes" don't seem to want to apply to either figure regardless of what I do.

    AFAIK PP shaders are for Poser Pro

    Not quite ;) PP materials are for Poser 4 with Pro Pack, which was an intermediate version between P4 and P5.

    The main difference for the materials was that P4 used a special format for the bump maps (.bum IIRC) and starting from PP they used jpg.

    In DS or recent versions of Poser you should use the PP version of the materials if you have a P4 and PP version included.

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012
    edited April 2016
    lx said:

    Also, I'm giving up and going to bed now, but if anyone can locate the Kiki Clothing Pack 1 Romper Suit and/or Kishini Clothing Pack 2: Sugar & Spice, I'd love to know where they're hiding, because I've just spent way too long trawling through the Poser "folder system" and the Products menu searching.

    You have named here the two exact outfits that Install Fail on DIM for me @lx , I downloaded and installed the files manually as there seems to be a bug, package downloads fine but DIM Install Fails without fail on every attempt. It may be the same problem, have you checked the "install" part of DIM to see if they are stuck there as failed installs?

    Post edited by KA1 on
  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    KA1 said:
    lx said:

    Also, I'm giving up and going to bed now, but if anyone can locate the Kiki Clothing Pack 1 Romper Suit and/or Kishini Clothing Pack 2: Sugar & Spice, I'd love to know where they're hiding, because I've just spent way too long trawling through the Poser "folder system" and the Products menu searching.

    You have named here the two exact outfits that Install Fail on DIM for me @lx , I downloaded and installed the files manually as there seems to be a bug, package downloads fine but DIM Install Fails without fail on every attempt. It may be the same problem, have you checked the "install" part of DIM to see if they are stuck there as failed installs?

    Oops, you're right - those two are downloaded but the installs failed.

    Daz pls fix.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    Leana said:
    Taozen said:
    lx said:

    Okay, after some effort I managed to rescue her from the horrifying depths of the Poser folder system (hahaha, pose section.)

    Still not entirely sure on the differences between K1 and K2 yet (I mean I guess one is newer, maybe the morphs are a bit different?)

    - Anime eyes and blind eyes work on both K1 and K2. "real eyes" don't work on either?
    - No idea what the difference between P4 and PP shaders are but they both work so whatever.
    - I guess the refits section is to adjust K1 clothing you own for K2? Some of them work for me some give me not found errors since I don't have all the outfits.

    Everything's kind of a mess because Poser folders are hideous but the only real issue I've come across is that the "real eyes" don't seem to want to apply to either figure regardless of what I do.

    AFAIK PP shaders are for Poser Pro

    Not quite ;) PP materials are for Poser 4 with Pro Pack, which was an intermediate version between P4 and P5.

    The main difference for the materials was that P4 used a special format for the bump maps (.bum IIRC) and starting from PP they used jpg.

    In DS or recent versions of Poser you should use the PP version of the materials if you have a P4 and PP version included.

    OK, thanks for the clarification. smiley  

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    I seem to remember some texture packages in the Deep Freeze, but it was long enough ago that I may be connecting something to Koshini that wasn't hers. 

    But by no means all of the stuff from this era of 'Toon has made it over here yet. We've several more days of new/old 'Toon stuff yet to show up.

    I was pleased to see the CDI morph pack show up for Kit. She did one for most of Littlefox's Toon people.

  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    Kerya said:
    Vaskania said:

    Koshini 2 and Ichiro 2 are part of Poser default content when you buy Poser. At least that's how I got mine.

    http://www.daz3d.com/koshini-upgrade-for-poser-7-users

    http://www.daz3d.com/ichiro-poser-7-user-upgrade

    (Why anybody whould buy these now that the full Koshini/Ichiro are at the same price - I don't know)

    Ah ok. PP2014 was my first Poser version, so I wasn't using it long enough to have seen an upgrade during Poser 7.

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012

    Does anyone know if there are autofit clones for G1/G2 available for Koshini, Krystal & Ichiro (maybe even Kiki??)

  • Does anyone know if Krystal clothing is compatible with Koshini?

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996

    Some of it says it works with both. Not sure about others (would like to know too.)

    Also would like to know if it actually downloads and installs >.>

  • lx said:

    Some of it says it works with both. Not sure about others (would like to know too.)

    Also would like to know if it actually downloads and installs >.>

    Thanks Ix. Im going to dl and see what happens. Krystal went into the wishlist but she had some shoes that I wanted for Koshini.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    edited April 2016

    Product failed check, moving to next product : IM00024617-01_KikiClothingPack1Rompers.zip
    Install Queue finished in 0 min 0.0 sec.
    Product failed check, moving to next product : IM00024624-01_KoshiniClothingPack2SugarandSpice.zip
    Install Queue finished in 0 min 0.1 sec.

    Daz~ 

    Hmm that's odd. The school skirt and top are available as separate packages for Krystal and K2, but the shoes have only appeared for Krystal. I would say there may be a good chance of them appearing for Koshini in a day or two (since it's happened with several other products of those ranges.)

    Oh, those items new today share textures between Krystal and Koshini versions; it was the texture addons that work for both that I was thinking of.

    Post edited by lx_2807502 on
  • Quick render with some iray shaders. No issues so far except with the hair which has these trans surface channels. Im assuming that is poser functionality. It results in the hair looking very thin. Removing the trans map from the opacity setting seems to work ok. I havent had any problems with the morphs yet but I havent tested them all. So maybe not 100% daz compatible...yet?

    Koshini 2.jpg
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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,973
    lx said:

    Product failed check, moving to next product : IM00024617-01_KikiClothingPack1Rompers.zip
    Install Queue finished in 0 min 0.0 sec.

    I've reported that one, they've working on it now. Toon Courtyard has been updated and installs now.

  • lx_2807502lx_2807502 Posts: 2,996
    Taozen said:
    lx said:

    Product failed check, moving to next product : IM00024617-01_KikiClothingPack1Rompers.zip
    Install Queue finished in 0 min 0.0 sec.

    I've reported that one, they've working on it now. Toon Courtyard has been updated and installs now.

    Oh, awesome, thanks. I didn't really want to add more when I was already waiting on hearing about another bug report fix.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,029

    Here is my attempt with her in iRay. 

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