LineRender9000 [Commercial]

Artini

Using settings from dreamfarmer, got something like that, below. I have tried spotlight, but it does not give the results, I like.

I am still searching for optimized set of lights, to be used with LR9000, but simple AO, is likely the best.

djigneo

GiGi_7 said:

It looks like a great work, a ultra pro toon product.

Thank you very much.

GiGi_7 said:

Are four cameras the limit? I think in things that need 10 or 20 cameras. Ok, I can produce 3 or 5 copies of the scene with different parameters in the cameras...but...one is
ambitious...and lazy

Can I use different colors for outlines in each different camera pass?

The render automation via the LR9k AutoRender script supports any number of render passes with different or the same cameras. With potentially different line thicknesses, thresholds, colors for each pass LineRender9000 pass, and if not LineRender9000, you can select a renderer of your choice. The reason why 4 is the common number is because that is the limitation of the Composite cam: it has 4 layers. If you're compositing manually in Photoshop or GIMP, that's not a concern.

GiGi_7 said:

This support toony cam, Iray. Does this support any 3dl custom surface or camera shader?

Technically, yes you could kick off a ToonyCam script from LR9k AutoRender and use the ToonyCam Composite cam as a render pass camera. Check the faq for more information about the iRay support. Yes, you can certainly craft your own shader cameras and use them or other shaders that would work in 3Delight for the line passes.

djigneo

Artini said:

Using settings from dreamfarmer, got something like that, below. I have tried spotlight, but it does not give the results, I like.

I am still searching for optimized set of lights, to be used with LR9000, but simple AO, is likely the best.

Thanks for sharing!

For those curious on how I do lighting for my scenes, I typically use just one distant light and convert all the surfaces in my scenes to ambient, so shadows don't show on the main 3Delight color pass. (This gives a "flatter" impression.) In my workflow, the shadows only show up on the shadow opacity cam pass.

I experimented with UberEnvironment2 set to Ambient, but due to the surfaces I'm using it doesn't really make a difference.

JesterVII

What settings did you use to make the pure black and white Manga style picture?

djigneo

JesterVII said:

What settings did you use to make the pure black and white Manga style picture?

This one?

Pass 1 - LineRender9000 - Regular camera, 'Use ColorId materials' enabled. Line threshold around 0.20, Thickness depends on render size, but about 25% larger than the other passes. I think for the 2000x??? production sized render I was around 8.0 and 6.0

Pass 2 - LineRender9000 - Fresnel reflected v camera, Line threshold around 0.35, Thickness slightly smaller than pass 1.

Pass 3 - LineRender9000 - Shadow opacity cam, Line threshold around 0.35, Thickness same as Pass 2.

Composite is:

Pass 1 - lines

Pass 2 - lines

Pass 3 - main render

Pass 3 - lines

With a white background I added in GIMP.

The ColorId settings have the figure all one ColorId (including the eyes and all of that), with distinct colors for the rest of the different objects... like this:

Artini

Thanks, it is a lot of fun. B&W images edited with Nik Tools collection.

JesterVII

Ws thinking more like this one. Or was it basicly the same settings just some minor tweaking?

djigneo

JesterVII said:

Ws thinking more like this one. Or was it basicly the same settings just some minor tweaking?

​Ouch. Yeah, @KA1 makes great art. Um, perhaps he'll chime in and share what was done exactly. I'm fairly certain it involves the Two-tone toon camera as the base, with the line work close to what I suggested.

 

nicstt

djigneo said:

Miss Bad Wolf said:

Would this help make adult coloring books?

Yes, I imagine it would, assuming the adult coloring books are outlines and detail line representations of scenes you can create in Daz Studio.

 

nicstt said:

Is there a video of it being used anywhere?

I'm interested but it's not a main point of interest, so still undecided.

I haven't made a video of it. I'm happy to send you a link to the user manual if you're looking to get more detailed information.

 

And as others have mentioned, it has indeed hit the Daz store.

Yes please, I would appreciate the link.

KA1

JesterVII said:

Ws thinking more like this one. Or was it basicly the same settings just some minor tweaking?

This one is a little more "busy" as I didn't convert all the surfaces to flat Visual Style Shader surfaces (just used all textures "as is" in 3Delight) Basically the Toon 2-Tone cam is used for the main image with a harsh spotlight set up to cast the shadows the way you want them across the scene/figure - Fire up the LR9k Autorender script and ensure the Toon 2-Tone cam is active with both Render Lights and Render Shadows active and 3Delight Linerender9000 is selected - then the line output settings are done with a standard Camera and set up as per the Line Output settings image below (I forgot to write on the Two Tone but line output is written on!)

Two Tone settings -

+ Line output settings

=

Syndaryl

GiGi_7 said:

Are four cameras the limit? I think in things that need 10 or 20 cameras. Ok, I can produce 3 or 5 copies of the scene with different parameters in the cameras...but...one is

ambitious...and lazy

Are you talking about different camera angles? It totally can handle that. What you do is look through the camera you want to render with in your viewport, then run the script. It will move all the LineRender9000 cameras to that place and angle, and render. Then pick another main camera, run the script, it moves the LineRender9000 cameras, and etc.

Not 100% sure about camera angle and focal length settings being copied, but I can't see why they wouldn't be.

dreamfarmer

djigneo

Syndaryl said:

GiGi_7 said:

Are four cameras the limit? I think in things that need 10 or 20 cameras. Ok, I can produce 3 or 5 copies of the scene with different parameters in the cameras...but...one is

ambitious...and lazy

Are you talking about different camera angles? It totally can handle that. What you do is look through the camera you want to render with in your viewport, then run the script. It will move all the LineRender9000 cameras to that place and angle, and render. Then pick another main camera, run the script, it moves the LineRender9000 cameras, and etc.

Not 100% sure about camera angle and focal length settings being copied, but I can't see why they wouldn't be.

Yes, camera angle and focal length do copy as well. All parameters that match up between the cameras should copy temporarily during the script execution.

JesterVII

First render I am truly happy love this Script!

djigneo

JesterVII said:

First render I am truly happy love this Script!

Woah, nice one! Thanks for sharing!

JesterVII

djigneo said:

JesterVII said:

First render I am truly happy love this Script!

Woah, nice one! Thanks for sharing!

Thank you Making this!!

 

DaremoK3

Some great images in this thread.  Keep them coming.

 

For GiGi_7; I have processed approximately 12-14 different camera passes in one session, and average around 8-10 cameras.  I haven't had the need for 20 yet, but I will probably give it a shot.  Here is an example of using SketchCam (Zigraphix X-mas freebie) with LR9k.  The composited image is four separate camera passes: Edge Blend Cam, Toon Cam, Two-Tone Cam (Toon 2-tone Cam precursor), and SketchCam.

 

Here  is a close-up version so you can see details added by SketchCam:

 

And the original from the beta thread:

JesterVII

KA1 said:

JesterVII said:

Ws thinking more like this one. Or was it basicly the same settings just some minor tweaking?

This one is a little more "busy" as I didn't convert all the surfaces to flat Visual Style Shader surfaces (just used all textures "as is" in 3Delight) Basically the Toon 2-Tone cam is used for the main image with a harsh spotlight set up to cast the shadows the way you want them across the scene/figure - Fire up the LR9k Autorender script and ensure the Toon 2-Tone cam is active with both Render Lights and Render Shadows active and 3Delight Linerender9000 is selected - then the line output settings are done with a standard Camera and set up as per the Line Output settings image below (I forgot to write on the Two Tone but line output is written on!)

Two Tone settings -

+ Line output settings

=

And here is my attempt at following your directions...lol

almahiedra

Syndaryl said:

GiGi_7 said:

Are four cameras the limit? I think in things that need 10 or 20 cameras. Ok, I can produce 3 or 5 copies of the scene with different parameters in the cameras...but...one is

ambitious...and lazy

Are you talking about different camera angles? It totally can handle that. What you do is look through the camera you want to render with in your viewport, then run the script. It will move all the LineRender9000 cameras to that place and angle, and render. Then pick another main camera, run the script, it moves the LineRender9000 cameras, and etc.

Not 100% sure about camera angle and focal length settings being copied, but I can't see why they wouldn't be.

I didn't think in angle or focal length...until you spoke about it. Interesting approach

DaremoK3 said:

 

 

For GiGi_7; I have processed approximately 12-14 different camera passes in one session, and average around 8-10 cameras.  I haven't had the need for 20 yet, but I will probably give it a shot.  Here is an example of using SketchCam (Zigraphix X-mas freebie) with LR9k.  The composited image is four separate camera passes: Edge Blend Cam, Toon Cam, Two-Tone Cam (Toon 2-tone Cam precursor), and SketchCam.

 

Here  is a close-up version so you can see details added by SketchCam:

 

And the original from the beta thread:

Wow!, this looks awesome. It is exactly the type of things that I want achieve. With color is easy to need 20 cameras.

dreamfarmer

Extreme Lighting and the joy of two-tone.

Medron Pryde

These are some seriously amazing images.

You guys rock here.

Ruphuss

dreamfarmer said:

Extreme Lighting and the joy of two-tone.

very nice one

how long for the workflow ?

how long for rendering ?

i think it needs to much time for animation

would like to see that girl in motion

KA1

JesterVII said:

KA1 said:

JesterVII said:

Ws thinking more like this one. Or was it basicly the same settings just some minor tweaking?

This one is a little more "busy" as I didn't convert all the surfaces to flat Visual Style Shader surfaces (just used all textures "as is" in 3Delight) Basically the Toon 2-Tone cam is used for the main image with a harsh spotlight set up to cast the shadows the way you want them across the scene/figure - Fire up the LR9k Autorender script and ensure the Toon 2-Tone cam is active with both Render Lights and Render Shadows active and 3Delight Linerender9000 is selected - then the line output settings are done with a standard Camera and set up as per the Line Output settings image below (I forgot to write on the Two Tone but line output is written on!)

Two Tone settings -

+ Line output settings

=

And here is my attempt at following your directions...lol

You're pretty much there, only a case of playing with some spot lights to get them positioned to give the effect you want - for my image above I used 2, one above and to the right with ray trace shadow enabled and a more subtle one positioned head on to the character (with the intensity down a fair bit) no ray trace on that one. Each pass took less than 2minutes.

dreamfarmer

Ruphuss said:

dreamfarmer said:

Extreme Lighting and the joy of two-tone.

very nice one

how long for the workflow ?

how long for rendering ?

i think it needs to much time for animation

would like to see that girl in motion

 

 It initially crashed on compilation (something I'm seeing a lot) so I took the output to Photoshop and layered it. Not including crash, rendering about 20 minutes? I basically rendered almost all the available cameras via the script, default settings, LOTS of light, and then layered some of them in Photoshop. LOTS of light + Two-tone-lines produced really good lines, I think. Pretty sure the only way to animate her would be the old fashioned way.

Knittingmommy

I've been having fun playing with LineRender9000.  I may have missed this somewhere, but I had one question about the Outline output.  Is there a way to have the script save the Outline in numbered incremental files when doing renders as Image Series?  Having the Outline overwrite with each render is the only thing I can see as a reason LineRender9000 can't be useful in animation if you want an accompanying copy of the Outlines for each of the images generated when doing an Image Series with the other cameras.

Here is one of the images from my first little experiment with your great product.  I anticipate having lots of fun with this.  :)

djigneo

Knittingmommy said:

I've been having fun playing with LineRender9000.  I may have missed this somewhere, but I had one question about the Outline output.  Is there a way to have the script save the Outline in numbered incremental files when doing renders as Image Series?  Having the Outline overwrite with each render is the only thing I can see as a reason LineRender9000 can't be useful in animation if you want an accompanying copy of the Outlines for each of the images generated when doing an Image Series with the other cameras.

Here is one of the images from my first little experiment with your great product.  I anticipate having lots of fun with this.  :)

Hm, it should be including frame numbers during an image series render. If it's an image series, the file format should be:
<File Prefix>_​<Pass number>_<Camera label>_<Current frame>[_lines].<File extension>

If it's not working that way, let me know and I can see if I can track down what's going wrong.

Artini

The Color ID pass is useful to make a quick mask and easily edit the part of the render. Used it here on the hair.

rono64

After 3 days and so many tests and renders, I have managed to produce this render.
Rendering times are slow, but this is very close to a fully usable piece. (time about 4.5 hours with test renders and final)
Now on to doing the background in just toon colors, no line. 

 

Bea

Where should the files mentioned here go?

Several 3Delight Scripted Renderer Script files should be in:
a. <DAZ Studio installation directory>\scripts\support\djigneo\ScriptedRenderer\LineRender9000
b. <DAZ Studio installation directory>\resources\ScriptedRenderer\LineRender9000

which directory is that?

mjc1016

Bea said:

Where should the files mentioned here go?

Several 3Delight Scripted Renderer Script files should be in:
a. <DAZ Studio installation directory>\scripts\support\djigneo\ScriptedRenderer\LineRender9000
b. <DAZ Studio installation directory>\resources\ScriptedRenderer\LineRender9000

which directory is that?

It should be where you installed Studio...something like C:/Program Files/Daz 3D/Studio 4 or similar.