Where are the guys?

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770
    edited June 2017

    I agree with nonesuch00, there's a lot of content across the generations, really incredible content. Wear Them All opens up access to a ton of it, so does CrossDresser. I'm a writer with characters across every generation, and haven't found it too difficult to get the clothing between them. You just need the right tools.

    For G2M specifically, Valzheimer's G3M for G2M is invaluable. You can get all the G3M clothes and hairs onto G2M. There's also an M4 clone available to bring the old content forward, and of course all Genesis 1 content will autofit to G2M without the need to purchase anything, it's built into Daz. That's a huge amount of content.

    I know this because I have a main character on my next book cover who refuses to be anything but a G2M and loves to wear M4 clothing. I've tried every combination under the sun, but he won't budge. Story people can be pickier than real ones sometimes. LOL 

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  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited June 2017

    The thing is, Serene, while that sounds awesome... on what do you base the notion that it will do better, or better enough?

     

    As I said this is my perception, so no one can say for sure.

    We are sort of in a holding pattern with men's content. Even sinking a bit, as I don't think the latest men's pro bundles have been really good sellers. 

    I  think any categorization will quite frankly improve sales by making stuff easier to find. And presumably as the store expands and grows it will set a better foundation for how content is marketed and displayed. Having a distinct category will provide the simple function of making it somewhat easier to find amidst the sea of Vicky content. 

    Right now status quo is not doing much if at all for men's category stuff.

    I don't know. Really there's not much you can do with men's clothing like in real life. We already have polo shirts, a tux, shoes, jeans and some underwear. That generally covers each generation, everything beyond that becomes a risk. To be honest, most of the male renders posted here the males have just basic clothing or next to nothing, so that translates into not a big need to fill the store with male content. Really the only thing I'll quickly drop into my basket is male underwear, but even my promos can't have the sexy items I used to use. That's why i repurpose old items from previous generations.

    Most of my products focuses on unique body shapes and morphs, with the appropriate JCMs that aren't in the base G3M or some of the other male morph products. Most guys that you buy will have wonky bends in their arm raises and thigh/pelvis/glute areas along with gens morphs and other anatomical "elements" that will help with your renders if you're rendering your men next to nothing. That's my niche, but i know i could make more money if i did a female shape with all those bend corrections in them... but the curious thing is i'll see things people ask for be released days before their post, and it's not because it's not being advertised; it's people aren't paying attention to daily releases for this content.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,647

    Hmm I fear you are right but wish it weren't so...crying I'm disappointed that you can't do your usually smexy guy underwear guys  any longer... since your promos have always rocked... honestly that seems a bit strange considering what some of the ladies in the promos wear....

    Hmm well hopefully the next generation clothing will look better so Michael 8 can either wear previous generation content or make do with fewer staple items.

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581

    Hmm I fear you are right but wish it weren't so...crying I'm disappointed that you can't do your usually smexy guy underwear guys  any longer... since your promos have always rocked... honestly that seems a bit strange considering what some of the ladies in the promos wear....

     

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

  • wolf359wolf359 Posts: 3,828

    "To any developer out there -- I'll buy G2M
    characters, clothing, poses, etc.; RIGHT NOW!"

    Anyone wishing to stay with previous generation
    Figures has to resign themselves to the reality
    that the vendors have moved on to the latest figures.
    your options are clear.

    Waste your time and forum space begging vendors to commit financial suicide
    and remember that Daz has a previous figure version cut off date for excepting submissions

    Learn to auto/force fit newer & older content to your older figure.

    Learn to make your own.

    I have chosen the latter thus I can use the G2 male/females indefinately
    and the content I create will be New/unique one-offs by default.

     

     

     

     

     

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited June 2017
    wolf359 said:


    and remember that Daz has a previous figure version cut off date for excepting submissions

     

    This isn't true at all. I've submitted older products after a new generation was released. There were some new m4 and v4 stuff released last year. Problem is that it's not going to make the money that a figure from the current generation would, hence it's better as a vendor to ditch the project or remake it for the current generation. So it's a customer sales driven decision, not one from DAZ3D.

     

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,647

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

    Agreed. Odd too because it was okay before. crying  I had heard the store was swinging to a more conservative approach but hadn't seen any particular evidence.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

    Agreed. Odd too because it was okay before. crying  I had heard the store was swinging to a more conservative approach but hadn't seen any particular evidence.

    While thongs aren't my favorite swimwear on anybody I'm guessing Utah has no beaches.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

    Agreed. Odd too because it was okay before. crying  I had heard the store was swinging to a more conservative approach but hadn't seen any particular evidence.

    While thongs aren't my favorite swimwear on anybody I'm guessing Utah has no beaches.

    Nothing to do with Utah, everything to do with Paypal/Credit Card Processors and other institutions.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

    Agreed. Odd too because it was okay before. crying  I had heard the store was swinging to a more conservative approach but hadn't seen any particular evidence.

    While thongs aren't my favorite swimwear on anybody I'm guessing Utah has no beaches.

    Nothing to do with Utah, everything to do with Paypal/Credit Card Processors and other institutions.

    How does anyone actually buy a thong then?

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited June 2017

    The girls are getting knocked too for promos as well. But it was funny that i had to redo promos for a character that used a thong for D3 that I repurposed for G3M and it got rejected, but I bought it here in the store years ago... but the approved underwear created the illusion that he was naked even worse... so  said OK. But really boxers and boxer briefs are so not sexy when that's what's selling the product. 

    Agreed. Odd too because it was okay before. crying  I had heard the store was swinging to a more conservative approach but hadn't seen any particular evidence.

    While thongs aren't my favorite swimwear on anybody I'm guessing Utah has no beaches.

    Nothing to do with Utah, everything to do with Paypal/Credit Card Processors and other institutions.

    Not sure about that in this instance. Not much difference and both are showing thigh. You just have to look harder for fabric on one than the other.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,647

    Amazing render! I mean in terms of risquness I'm not getting the huge difference between showing the stringier strap or the double since really nothing at all is to be seen anywhere

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