JACK TOMALIN APPRECIATION SOCIETY [JAS III]

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  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    I am starting to learn to model in Hexagon, believe me I am starting to get an idea of what PAs go through

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    I'd like to be a PA someday, I certainly do plenty of modelling [insert catwalk joke here] but I'm not sure its quite up to the standards needed. There's so much work involved in getting things ready for publishing, and strict rules to adhere to in the modelling itself. I have a wealth of custom made props, textures and other bits and pieces, but most of them are an absolute mess on a technical level. They look fine in render, but they'd be no good for morphing or otherwise.

    I should get some topography practice in so that one day I might achieve this goal.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Hasn't Hex got Grow or Shrink Selection commands Like Blender and Daz Studio can. You click on one Poly and grow the selection until it covers what you want. I havn't got Hex installed yet but I think it is under Right click Menu and it should be under advanced selection..but don't quote me on that..iit has been a while since I using Hex.

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    Oh i can do all kinds of crazy things in Hex, I could rip the whole thing apart poly by poly of i really wanted to, The trouble is ig I change the geometry in Hex, then the whole thing would need a new UV map and Texture. What I am doing is using Poser's grouping tool to create a new group, then i tell it to Create Prop and it makes a new prop out of my group, then I go back to the group on the original model and assign a new material zone to that group, that way i can make the original geometry invisible with a transparency in the material room and then set up parenting, pivot points and dials for my new prop so that it then replaces the invisible geometry.

    Some modelers are really really nice to me and they set up the material groups for me, that way I don;t have to sit there and try to select all the polys i need in those tiny hard to reach nook n crannies. Not Jack, nope Jack likes to make me work.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Yeah we can do that in Daz Studio now with the Polygon Group Editor Tool and select a poly on the boggie Grow the selection, I think it is Ctrl+SHIFT++ to grow the selection. Then you can assign a new Mat zone and make it transperent in the surfaces tab. I have used this function a lot and it really is so easy to do. But alas you use Poser and I have no idea if it has Grow and Shrink selection tools.

  • Mr Gneiss GuyMr Gneiss Guy Posts: 462
    edited December 1969

    You have done a number of of rooms inspired by the Titanic, ever thought of trying to tackle another doomed vessel? Sayyyyyy The Hindenburg? There were some really interesting rooms and things on that airship. For one, a vehicle that is essentially a giant bag of flammable gas, actually had a smoking lounge.

    Yeah, that would be cool, and might save me some work. As a "learn to model" project, I am in the early days of modeling some interiors loosely based on the Graf Zeppelin. Not as big or elaborate, but better for a starter project. It'll probably be a freebie, if I can make anything worth that price... :roll: My skills are... in need of further development... :cheese:

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    You have done a number of of rooms inspired by the Titanic, ever thought of trying to tackle another doomed vessel? Sayyyyyy The Hindenburg? There were some really interesting rooms and things on that airship. For one, a vehicle that is essentially a giant bag of flammable gas, actually had a smoking lounge.

    Yeah, that would be cool, and might save me some work. As a "learn to model" project, I am in the early days of modeling some interiors loosely based on the Graf Zeppelin. Not as big or elaborate, but better for a starter project. It'll probably be a freebie, if I can make anything worth that price... :roll: My skills are... in need of further development... :cheese:

    I'm just learning 3D modeling as well. I've made a few props in Hex so far

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    yeah no grow selection in Poser..... you have given me an idea though.... thinking of doing the grouping in Studio, saving the model and then opening it in Poser to do the rest

  • ZaarinZaarin Posts: 365
    edited December 1969

    I used your products in the background of a couple recent renders. The first is the fountain from The Guildhall, and the second is Trinity Atrium. Non-compressed versions are available on my deviantArt gallery. :)

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  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,478
    edited December 1969

    Nice work Zaarin! (is sure he's replied to this already, but my post is nowhere to be seen!)

  • Miss BMiss B Posts: 3,071
    edited December 1969

    Miss B said:
    Just noticed the link to the Survey. Done and done. :-)

    yayyy you get cake
    Ohhhhh CAKE!!! I hope it's chocolate cake. Is it chocolate cake, huh, huh, huh???
  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,478
    edited December 1969

    Definitely, that's the *only* sort of cake!

  • Miss BMiss B Posts: 3,071
    edited December 1969

    Definitely, that's the *only* sort of cake!

    KEWL!! ~wide evil grin~
  • Norse GraphicsNorse Graphics Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    "The cake is a lie"

    Not you, Jack, but from Portal...

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the cake is a lie

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Happy world ending to all of you :) and best wishes for rebirth tomorrow :)

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Do you know what time the world will end as I have a program I want to watch on tele.

  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,997
    edited December 1969

    About two and a half hours ago ... shall I wave as I go past in the vortex ...? ;)

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    my contribution to this world ending day :)

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Szark said:
    Do you know what time the world will end as I have a program I want to watch on tele.

    no sorry, and maybe it is a question of the time zone and summer or wintertime, so many questions...even the end of the world is not a simple thing so it seems...damn

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    and by the way, the maja have miscounted. Their world has ended around 500 years ago, when the conquistadors discovered south america

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    SimonJM said:
    About two and a half hours ago ... shall I wave as I go past in the vortex ...? ;)
    I think I saw you, well I saw someone flying past the window waving madly shouting something about the end of the world but he was riding a unicycle wearing a wig, big shoes and a big red nose.
  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    Ok, if ya got your red and blue goggles this will look kool, and i guess i will post the un-kool version for the un-kool kids with out the red and blue goggles....

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  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,478
    edited December 1969

    cosmo71 said:
    my contribution to this world ending day :)

    lol - thats cool..

    With the fact the world didn't end, can we assume she missed? ;)

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,478
    edited December 1969

    Ok, if ya got your red and blue goggles this will look kool, and i guess i will post the un-kool version for the un-kool kids with out the red and blue goggles....

    That's pretty sweet.. love that POV that you get with those stairs.

    Sadly I'm one of the un-kool kids too :(

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,287
    edited December 1969

    you are missing out Jack, the anaglyph version looks really wicked. I just got a new pair of glasses for x-mas so I decided to do a new 3D image. The new glasses work way better than my old set.

    There are several sites that offer free or low cost glasses, usually the el cheapo cardboard ones. But a decent set of plastic red / cyan glasses is not expensive. And there are a number of free programs for setting up the anaglyph images

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,198
    edited December 1969

    ...unfortunately having one bad eye, the red/blue 3D glasses don't work for me so I can only admire the "unkool" version.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    I am with you Jack...I am so uncool I think 3d is an overrated toy not nuch good for anything useful.

  • BagletBaglet Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I did manage to see the 3D version - it looks good. All thanks to what him indoors calls "a 3D glasses kit" - the coloured plastic that fell out of his 3D specs. I'll tell him how to put them back together now.

  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 2012

    I really enjoy some of the newer 3D that's come out. I saw a demo of a street scene in Venice that would revolutionize travel videos as it really made one feel like they were there on the street, a circus act where the performers were coming right out of the screen and a nature series that was the same. The problem with 3D at the moment is that to get it as refined as a high end 2D image/video takes a lot of manual tweaking so that even movies like Avatar didn't go full out evidently. The best clips are all expensive promo vids that are very short. Also, the pixel count for good 3D without glasses and good range of view is at least double HD and will go up from there. The displays are expensive atm, all back room stuff from what I've seen (in development) and probably OLED (but I don't recall from reading as it's been while since I was researching what's current in 3D.) Finally, as is visible in the 3D movies I've seen so far, the problem of keeping up with the image in fast videos, ie stutter, kind of detracts from it a bit atm. Every time a new technology comes along it's raw where the technology it's replacing has been refined so there is always some comparisons that are somewhat temporal. Having said that, there are also some strengths inherit in the older technology that do get lost (and forgot by most unfortunately.) Why did ancient people have such beautiful complex rhyme and song for instance? Mnemonics... at a time when one couldn't write things down it is thought that people had to have better memories, and with the advent of widespread writing some memory skills were lost.

    After all is said, I'm a big fan old movies and of 3D movies/games... but the 3D is still in early stages imo. 3D holographic sports on the kitchen table while you eat anyone ;)

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  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 2012

    Oh forgot to say LycanthropeX, good choice of image as it has good depth. Would like to have seen it in 3D but I lost my old style 3D glasses. I have to pick up some up from Amazon at some point as I like to play with anaglyphic images also. ;)

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