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G8 Foot morphs?

gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71
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I love G8 so far except for one glaring blemish. The feet. G8's feet look horrible. I really hope there will be some morphs to come along to shape the feet. Do you know of any ways to use G3 morphs like "feet work" to get a better molded foot?

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  • MusicplayerMusicplayer Posts: 515
    edited August 2017

    New one in the shop today for G8 males https://www.daz3d.com/easy-feet-for-genesis-8-male-s

    Also one for G8 females https://www.daz3d.com/easy-feet-for-genesis-8-female-s ( but gone off sale price at the moment)

    smiley 

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  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71

    I have those unfortunatly but they dont do the amount of morphing that G# females have. I will have to wait I guess. lol I wish I could remember the name of the creator that made the morphdials I use for G3. G8 heel and toe morphs just don't give you the freedom I get with G3.. Thanks though!

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,092

    Was it this? https://www.daz3d.com/beauty-fingers-and-toes

  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71

    Yes! That was it. I use that in all my morphs involving bartefoot models! I wish they would make a g8 version.... :(

  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433
    edited August 2017

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Julie Big toe 2a.jpg
    1500 x 1875 - 3M
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  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433

    Here are some custom morphs for Gen 3/V7 combined with beauty-fingers-and-toes and V7 HD morphs....see how the extra little detail goes a long way?

    Ophelia a.jpg
    1500 x 1500 - 2M
  • The DiigitalsThe Diigitals Posts: 380

    I too campaign for Beauty Finger and Toes for G8!! Pleasseeeee!!

  • Crushguy05Crushguy05 Posts: 88
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Wow, that looks great! Do you have any plans of sharing those morphs? I'm desperate for G8 foot morphs. Especiially ones as good as those! Also, what character textures are those?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,198
    edited August 2017
    ...agh, hot weather here is affecting the brain. Read the title as "G8 Fruit Morphs".
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  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433
    Crushguy05 said:
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Wow, that looks great! Do you have any plans of sharing those morphs? I'm desperate for G8 foot morphs. Especiially ones as good as those! Also, what character textures are those?

    Thanks, I don't think I'm all that great, but maybe one day I will release something.  :) 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,716
    edited August 2017
    Siciliano1969 said:
    Crushguy05 said:
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Wow, that looks great! Do you have any plans of sharing those morphs? I'm desperate for G8 foot morphs. Especiially ones as good as those! Also, what character textures are those?

    Thanks, I don't think I'm all that great, but maybe one day I will release something.  :) 

    I second the call to release some of your great feet morphs! They look amazing and the lack of realism of the G3F and G8F feet makes me want to hide the feet in nearly every render. lol I would LOVE your feet morphs - they're great!

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  • Crushguy05Crushguy05 Posts: 88
    divamakeup said:
    Siciliano1969 said:
    Crushguy05 said:
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Wow, that looks great! Do you have any plans of sharing those morphs? I'm desperate for G8 foot morphs. Especiially ones as good as those! Also, what character textures are those?

    Thanks, I don't think I'm all that great, but maybe one day I will release something.  :) 

    I second the call to release some of your great feet morphs! They look amazing and the lack of realism of the G3F and G8F feet makes me want to hide the feet in nearly every render. lol I would LOVE your feet morphs - they're great!

    Honestly lol I never would have guessed those were Gen8 feet. I would love to have those morphs in my renders!

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,486
    gremlin-2297907 said:

    I love G8 so far except for one glaring blemish. The feet. G8's feet look horrible. I really hope there will be some morphs to come along to shape the feet. Do you know of any ways to use G3 morphs like "feet work" to get a better molded foot?

    You're right - G8F's feet are horrible, and I am really angry that I'll have to buy another product that - maybe - fixes her almost unbendable flatfoot. I don't care that I can turn her toes into every direction, as long as I can only make them claw when G3F's feet are bended - e.g. in ballet poses. Such poses are almost impossible with G3F; worse than V4! G3F had the best feet I ever saw on a 3D figure. 

     

  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Here are some custom morphs for Gen 3/V7 combined with beauty-fingers-and-toes and V7 HD morphs....see how the extra little detail goes a long way?

    WOW~!!!!!

  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71

    I was really hoping for some next gen awesome feet on G8.  Everything is great with G8 exept the horrible feet lol. Here's hoping we get equally awesome feet morphs soon. Too bad we will have to buy them though :(

  • astromarcusastromarcus Posts: 9

    Is there any product in the making for realistic toes and feet?

  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71

    Soon I hope! Anybody know?

  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433
    divamakeup said:
    Siciliano1969 said:
    Crushguy05 said:
    Siciliano1969 said:

    Well, all I could do is do some custom morphs in Zbrush.  I am eagerly waiting some good HD morphs for Gen8/V8 like beauty-fingers-and-toes to add the extra detail needed.

    Wow, that looks great! Do you have any plans of sharing those morphs? I'm desperate for G8 foot morphs. Especiially ones as good as those! Also, what character textures are those?

    Thanks, I don't think I'm all that great, but maybe one day I will release something.  :) 

    I second the call to release some of your great feet morphs! They look amazing and the lack of realism of the G3F and G8F feet makes me want to hide the feet in nearly every render. lol I would LOVE your feet morphs - they're great!

    Thanks so much Divamakeup!  I will explore the possiblity of releasing some foot morphs.  :)  

  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433

    I can say that I totally agree that the feet are very neglected when it comes to figures for some reason.  While not as important as the face, eyes, and expressions, they can be a dead give away if not done properly.  I find that squaring off the toenails helps with the realism.  Toe lengths are important as well.  Take a look at your own feet....alot has to do with the big toe and the toe next to it regarding lengths.  

    At this point I can modify the shapes of the Gen 8 characters feet, but the feet (like the hands) need good HD detail.  I like HD better than Normal Maps, and I just can't get good displacement to work in Octane.  More too come.

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679
    edited August 2017
    Since we non PA users have no access to create HD morphs, you can try using normal or displacement maps to get that extra detail Daz refuses us. To use a displacement map in Iray, you need to increase the displacement subdivision several times, to at least 3. Since G8 uses G3 maps, you can use the normal/displacement maps of any previous G3 skin, except for Daz Original 7 characters which will need converting first.

    I overlooked you are using Octane, but perhaps you can do the same method from Iray. Iray will not render the displacement maps until you increase the subdivision. 1 or 2 is usually not enough.
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  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,205
    edited May 2019
    Siciliano1969 said:

    I can say that I totally agree that the feet are very neglected when it comes to figures for some reason.  While not as important as the face, eyes, and expressions, they can be a dead give away if not done properly.  I find that squaring off the toenails helps with the realism.  Toe lengths are important as well.  Take a look at your own feet....alot has to do with the big toe and the toe next to it regarding lengths.  t

    this is so true.  the hands are all too often neglected as well.

    your morphs are really excellent.  add me to the list of folks who'd love to see them available.

    :)

    j

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  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433
    outrider42 said:
    Since we non PA users have no access to create HD morphs, you can try using normal or displacement maps to get that extra detail Daz refuses us. To use a displacement map in Iray, you need to increase the displacement subdivision several times, to at least 3. Since G8 uses G3 maps, you can use the normal/displacement maps of any previous G3 skin, except for Daz Original 7 characters which will need converting first.

     

    I overlooked you are using Octane, but perhaps you can do the same method from Iray. Iray will not render the displacement maps until you increase the subdivision. 1 or 2 is usually not enough.

    I have tried to use Normal maps in Octane, but when you use the specular material its very faint.  I use the stand alone Octane and export out at level 3 subD.  All the displacement maps do is just bloat the geometry.  

  • Siciliano1969Siciliano1969 Posts: 433

    Thanks everybody for the kind comments on the foot morphs!  Let me see what I can do.

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,716
    Siciliano1969 said:

    I can say that I totally agree that the feet are very neglected when it comes to figures for some reason.  While not as important as the face, eyes, and expressions, they can be a dead give away if not done properly.  I find that squaring off the toenails helps with the realism.  Toe lengths are important as well.  Take a look at your own feet....alot has to do with the big toe and the toe next to it regarding lengths.  

    At this point I can modify the shapes of the Gen 8 characters feet, but the feet (like the hands) need good HD detail.  I like HD better than Normal Maps, and I just can't get good displacement to work in Octane.  More too come.

    I'm looking forward to it! :D

  • astromarcusastromarcus Posts: 9
    divamakeup said:
    Siciliano1969 said:

    I can say that I totally agree that the feet are very neglected when it comes to figures for some reason.  While not as important as the face, eyes, and expressions, they can be a dead give away if not done properly.  I find that squaring off the toenails helps with the realism.  Toe lengths are important as well.  Take a look at your own feet....alot has to do with the big toe and the toe next to it regarding lengths.  

    At this point I can modify the shapes of the Gen 8 characters feet, but the feet (like the hands) need good HD detail.  I like HD better than Normal Maps, and I just can't get good displacement to work in Octane.  More too come.

    I'm looking forward to it! :D

    So am I:-)

  • astromarcusastromarcus Posts: 9

    How is it going? Any ongoing foot morphs?

  • miketeemiketee Posts: 58

    Hi - going to join the chorus. G8F needs some proper foot morphs - something that makes her feet look much more natural. Siciliano1969, hope you are feeling juiced to get out a set of good looking foot morphs for G8F.

    Warmest - Nick

  • Hurdy3DHurdy3D Posts: 1,056

    +1

  • gremlin-2297907gremlin-2297907 Posts: 71
    Still no news on feet from Daz. Chungdan had awesome g3 morphs but nobody seems to know how to contact him. I must admit I put detail and focus on feet in my renders/comics I achieve with daz and it is near heartbreaking to see all of these beautiful g8 models with such poorly conceived feet. PLEASE DAZ PUBLISH SOME DECENT FOOT MORPHS!!!
  • deleted userdeleted user Posts: 1,204
    edited July 2018

    I'll be doing a short Tutorial on how to get HD details on Genesis using Zbrush. (Note that it's not a permanent fixture and is only useful for the one scene.) But if you must have detail.. There is a way.

    Just sub and bell to my Channel and when I get a chance I'll make the video and you should get a notice.

     

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