New Product Library! Replaces Itemized/Downloadables Has Product Pages and Search!

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  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    ...It helps, but I'm clear as mud on this- do I then need the DIM and DIM CF if I dont have Poser?
    Cathie

    CF = Companion File, thus StudioCF = Studio Companion File = Studio specific items besides what's in the base DIM file (and PoserCF = Poser specific items (shaders etc..) not in the base DIM file.

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    I'm very impressed here. Thanks DAZ.

  • griffon_e3f1dc9370griffon_e3f1dc9370 Posts: 224
    edited December 1969

    Sunfire said:
    I also would like to see something to let us know if things have been updated, not just in the Readme though, perhaps something in the product library. Like a date beside the item in the list to say when it was last updated, if it was.

    If an update is released to a product you already installed with DIM, it should be listed again in your available downloads as an update.

    If I used DIM... but... I don't use DIM.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    DAZ_Jon said:
    The fix for this is as well as some additional bug fixes will be coming early next week as well as a lot more enhancements to the interface will be coming soon

    Will this include some of the things we've had questions about in this thread over the last day or so? Some of these queries have been for fairly minor cosmetic changes, but some involve major ease-of-use issues. E.g seeing more items per page, "already downloaded" notices, etc.
  • Alisa Uh-LisaAlisa Uh-Lisa Posts: 1,308
    edited December 1969

    While there are still some things needing fixing, this new product library is an improvement over the last method.

    Novica said:
    That doesn't help those of us who don't use DIM due to managing the files a certain way. And that's not me, btw! :)

    Honestly, I don't get what managing files a certain way has to do with using DIM - the secret is to ONLY use it as a downloading tool.

    All I do is this:

    1-Download file using DIM into the download folder
    2- Move file somewhere else.
    3-Create a blank zip file in the download folder and name it the same as the original file
    4-Leave the .dsx file in the download folder as well
    5-Rename the moved file to whatever you want and put it wherever you want

    Doing this, I am getting notice thru DIM that files are updated.

    Now, for installing.

    The DIM files are just a plain old zip file with 2 exceptions -

    1 - there is a file inside called Manifest.dsx that you don't need if you aren't using DIM to install
    2 - the actual runtime is inside another folder called content.

    So, just create (in windows) 2 windows explorer windows - one with the zip file, one with your runtime, opened just below Content.

    Drag and drop as you please.

    I completely customize where any of the prop, character, hair, and pose files go, and this works like a charm. It's no different than anythng I buy from any other store with the 2 exceptions mentioned above, but neither of those cause a problem.

    Then, drag

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,199
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    That doesn't help those of us who don't use DIM due to managing the files a certain way. And that's not me, btw! :)

    ...with you on this.
  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    ...Honestly, I don't get what managing files a certain way has to do with using DIM - the secret is to ONLY use it as a downloading tool....

    Except there are those who have a lot of content that is current and don't want to download it all over again just to get the DIM appraised of that. I'm still waiting for a way to get the files the DIM uses to track that without having to download the whole package so I could put them in a dl folder. That might solve this particular issue.

  • Alisa Uh-LisaAlisa Uh-Lisa Posts: 1,308
    edited December 1969

    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

  • sfaa69sfaa69 Posts: 353
    edited December 1969

    I used this for the first time yesterday, and figured out how to do it without any instructions or hand-holding, which for me means this is a wonderful change. Love it so far. Thanks to the folks who made it happen.

  • edited December 1969

    Today is the first time I've bought anything in a while so I was totally confuzed when it came to finding the download link, so I have to thank all you lovely people for showing me the how to and where is. :-)
    An I just got to thank DAZ for this lovely new itemised list, makes things a lot easier.

    Cat

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,199
    edited December 1969

    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    ...for me to do this with my poor connectivity and throughput speed would take several days provided there were no timeouts, resets or signal interruptions, which would cause the process to crash or result in corrupted downloads. This is just not designed for those of us with very slow unstable connections.
  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    And I've run exe's/zips... reorganized, relabled, and rezipped on an item by item basis.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    Gedd said:
    Except there are those who have a lot of content that is current and don't want to download it all over again just to get the DIM appraised of that.

    This is one of the reasons I haven't tried using DIM yet. If there were a way to get the DIM to know what I already have, I might be willing to try it...

    ...Except on the gripping hand, I archive all my installers in dozens of categorised folders. If someone can tell me the DIM will have the ability to handle this and still track update status (it certainly doesn't now) I might reconsider. I certainly won't consider anyone else telling me to toss the storage system I've developed and been been using for years.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    If they keep that thread going and the updated file list current, that would be faster than changing all the files to use DIM for updates. I'd rather surf in and say, "nope, no update..." than do that process described (remember I'm not technical) Now all I have to do is find that blasted thread...

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    Every time you post, I have a hard time concentrating on your words- I'm still in love with that fuzzy golden poochie! They need to create a 3D dog using yours as a model :)

  • Alisa Uh-LisaAlisa Uh-Lisa Posts: 1,308
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    ...for me to do this with my poor connectivity and throughput speed would take several days provided there were no timeouts, resets or signal interruptions, which would cause the process to crash or result in corrupted downloads. This is just not designed for those of us with very slow unstable connections.

    I definitely understand that there are reasons people can't or don't want to use DIM. The thing I was specifically referring to was the comment that they may not want to because of managing files certain ways - which seemed to be indicating that they didn't want to have the DIM install things for them . ;)

  • Alisa Uh-LisaAlisa Uh-Lisa Posts: 1,308
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    Every time you post, I have a hard time concentrating on your words- I'm still in love with that fuzzy golden poochie! They need to create a 3D dog using yours as a model :)

    Awww, thanks - he was such a sweetie - and I'd LOVE to see a golden retriever puppy and adult 3d model!!!
    :)

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited April 2013

    Uh oh- I am finding the search isn't working with recognizing things I do indeed have. I typed Delicious Delira and nothing came up. Went to clickety click through and got to the D's and there it was. This all started when I was doing my manual downloads of the Delira Dress, and saw the Delicious Delira on the site. Normally I am very good at scoping out associated products, so it was fishy when the P.Library did not turn up any results. But it's there in my D's.

    So apparently, you can't trust the search feature as there was no abbreviations, nothing to throw this for a loop. I did a copy/paste from my D's to make sure I had not misspelled it, and sure enough, still nothing came up. (I had already hit Enter)

    Try telling IT that it isn't in my library!

    Hopefully the search will be fixed- but I REALLY want the lists of my products back, and the total number too! That's why(up to NOW, grimacing) I have been fortunately downloading with Taozen's wonderful downloader and external hard driving it. (got a 2 terabyte Passport, highly recommend.)

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  • Satira CapriccioSatira Capriccio Posts: 523
    edited December 1969

    The product pages are pretty and all that. But, it takes longer to download products now because you need to click each product link to open the product page to get to the download links. Unfortunately, those product pages don't load all that fast with DSL. With the result that you lose far more time than you gain by not having to reset downloads.

    But GOSH ... the pages sure are pretty, aren't they? And that really is more important than anything else, yes?


    I'm not seeing a massive difference in size between the DIM zips and the installers of the products. I was rather surprised to see that the Despoina Hair V4 DIM zip (100.79 MB) is larger than the 15897_DespoinaHairV4_1.0_dpc.exe installer (97.01 MB).


    Personally, I preferred when the download links were in the order confirmation email. All you needed to do was to open the order confirmation email and click each link to download the product. Apparently, that wasn't a good idea so DAZ removed the links from the order confirmation emails and now they only list the product name.

    Of course, DAZ still list the files on the Order page, which is completely ridiculous since they aren't links.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    So to make this clear- I download the DIM file, and if one says DIM CF I get that too as it has extras in it (for DAZ, not Poser)
    And one more question- does the DIM file have the metadata or do I get the metadata file?

    And I dont get any other files, no exe's needed. (zips are macs, knew that already.)
    Thanks in advance- once I get this straight I can help others when I see it posted in the future. I KNOW brand new newbies are going to have questions! (because we do!)

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,199
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    Every time you post, I have a hard time concentrating on your words- I'm still in love with that fuzzy golden poochie! They need to create a 3D dog using yours as a model :)
    ...all you need is the Millennium Puppy and either the Look at My Hair or Garibaldi Express Hair System plugin.

  • Satira CapriccioSatira Capriccio Posts: 523
    edited December 1969

    I'm in mourning over the loss of Taozen's downloader. It was far easier to use than D3DIM and more reliable. D3DIM didn't even list the Parkside JTC Logistics files, even after I checked all application filters.

    For searching, use the fewest possible letters to search rather than an entire product name (like Deli). Histori got me the Historical Armor for V4, and parkside got me a bunch of Parkside products.

    Novica said:
    That's why(up to NOW, grimacing) I have been fortunately downloading with Taozen's wonderful downloader and external hard driving it. (got a 2 terabyte Passport, highly recommend.)
  • KatteyKattey Posts: 2,899
    edited December 1969

    DAZ_Jon said:
    Kattey said:
    When I use Filter/Search bar in Product Library or browsing through my pages, the list goes all way back to default every time I click on a product.

    It is a very annoying to start the filter/seach/browsing over and over again in case if I want to go through all Forests in my products, for example.
    Is that the known issue? Will it be fixed?


    This is a known bug that we have duplicated only in certain older versions of IE (we duplicated it with IE 8). Basically, instead of doing just an ajax call and just updating the address bar so the back button functionality still works, it does a full page reload. If you use the site in a different browser, or possibly a later version of IE (might be broken in 9, it works properly in 10) you'll see how it is supposed to function and that you don't lose your filtering and sorting when navigating.

    The fix for this is as well as some additional bug fixes will be coming early next week as well as a lot more enhancements to the interface will be coming soon with the next version of DIM that should be nice enhancements for both users of DIM and those that prefer to download through the web interface (not even getting into the big updates to DIM itself) that should make for even less time spent in just getting your content so that you can spend more time creating with it.
    Thank you. I'm running the latest Firefox browser, so this shouldn't be an issue then but it is.
    And I won't be using DIM so the browser fixes better to be working...-_-

    Ameesa, reasonably I shouldn't be expected to change my computer, browser and OS because this isn't working -_-

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    Well how 'bout that! And I get a "Sunny DELIght" to boot!
    That's too funny- but thanks for the tip, it worked! (and will pass it along.)
    Cathie

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  • SotoSoto Posts: 1,440
    edited December 1969

    I love it. It's fast and convenient. A big improvement!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,199
    edited April 2013

    ...well DIM is totally useless for me because of a minor typo in my username (a common occurrence being mildly dyslexic) that is causing a mismatch error and it will not give me an option to fix it.

    That's broken.

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  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    ...for me to do this with my poor connectivity and throughput speed would take several days provided there were no timeouts, resets or signal interruptions, which would cause the process to crash or result in corrupted downloads. This is just not designed for those of us with very slow unstable connections.

    Seriously, who says you have to do it quickly? I've been playing with DIM since February 5---over two months already---and still have a long ways to go.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,199
    edited April 2013

    ...update, it wasn't my error that substituted the letter "a" for "@" in the email address (which is the "username" for one's Daz account), it was the installer for the DIM that did it and I uninstalled then reinstalled and launched it. I found where this can be changed (one has to select "offline" to get this option) but the selection is grey (inactive) and right clicking does not bring up a window to make the correction. The only window that will pop up is to add another account which will do nothing to fix the issue.

    As this (the DIM) is still a beta with obvious bugs still affecting it, changes like was done to the itemised order history should not have been launched until the DIM itself was a full 1.x public release. At least with the old itemised order format I could still use Taozen's History Manager.

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  • Alisa Uh-LisaAlisa Uh-Lisa Posts: 1,308
    edited April 2013

    Kyoto Kid said:
    Novica said:
    That I can understand ;) I'm re-downloading anyway,even if my content's current, because I prefer to have the zip files on my computer rather than the old exes.

    Every time you post, I have a hard time concentrating on your words- I'm still in love with that fuzzy golden poochie! They need to create a 3D dog using yours as a model :)


    ...all you need is the Millennium Puppy and either the Look at My Hair or Garibaldi Express Hair System plugin.

    That would get you close :)

    Post edited by Alisa Uh-Lisa on
  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto, sent you a PM.
    Cathie

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