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My interview with Harper's Bazaar - World's First Digital Supermodel

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  • FistyFisty Posts: 3,416

    Congrats!  She's beautiful!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333
    edited February 2018
    Divamakeup said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    Congrats! I forgot that magazine existed, when I was little it was a fashion magazine I think. 

    Isn't it still? :)

    No, all I saw was gossip, sort of like the National Enquirer or People. I was at the British site though. 

    Maybe I am ignorant of what a fashion magazine is. As a child I assumed that meant the were like the clothing section of a Sears catalogue but with clothing for a large spending allowance for clothing, but I admit I never looked at them so I'm not sure if that's what they used to be.

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333
    edited February 2018
    Linwelly said:

    Kudos! That's a great work and it shows that DS can go a long way in the right hands. And I guess the fact of how much is manipulated on the usual modelphotos needs to be know much more, so which better way to make people aware :)

    She is a stunning work and I hope you won't get too many of the stupid haters.

    I read that article and post in this thread but didn't see any hateful comments at the site or here. I am confused who these haters are? One shouldn't be labled a hater just because they don't enthusiatically gush at the site of a work of art.

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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    nonesuch00 said:
    Linwelly said:

    Kudos! That's a great work and it shows that DS can go a long way in the right hands. And I guess the fact of how much is manipulated on the usual modelphotos needs to be know much more, so which better way to make people aware :)

    She is a stunning work and I hope you won't get too many of the stupid haters.

    I read that article and post in this thread but didn't see any hateful comments at the site or here. I am confused who these haters are? One shouldn't be labled a hater just because they don't enthusiatically gush at the site of a work of art.

    Apparently disagreeing with someone's interpretation of "the most beautiful woman in the world" is hating.

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 5,987
    nonesuch00 said:
    Linwelly said:

    Kudos! That's a great work and it shows that DS can go a long way in the right hands. And I guess the fact of how much is manipulated on the usual modelphotos needs to be know much more, so which better way to make people aware :)

    She is a stunning work and I hope you won't get too many of the stupid haters.

    I read that article and post in this thread but didn't see any hateful comments at the site or here. I am confused who these haters are? One shouldn't be labled a hater just because they don't enthusiatically gush at the site of a work of art.

    There was a sentence about that in the article which I referred to.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165

    Congratulations on your success with your new models she looks really beautiful,  I hope all your future endeavors are as equally successful. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,333
    Linwelly said:
    nonesuch00 said:
    Linwelly said:

    Kudos! That's a great work and it shows that DS can go a long way in the right hands. And I guess the fact of how much is manipulated on the usual modelphotos needs to be know much more, so which better way to make people aware :)

    She is a stunning work and I hope you won't get too many of the stupid haters.

    I read that article and post in this thread but didn't see any hateful comments at the site or here. I am confused who these haters are? One shouldn't be labled a hater just because they don't enthusiatically gush at the site of a work of art.

    There was a sentence about that in the article which I referred to.

    Oh, when journalists use such words that are simply out to silence valid criticism. They use those tactics so often it's easy to overlook because they is no validity of accusing someing of being a hater before they are, well, hating. So that author was blaming their audience in advance and truthfully that is very disrespectful to their audience.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,923
    edited February 2018
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

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  • The DiigitalsThe Diigitals Posts: 380
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

     

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,749
    Karuki said:
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

     

    I think Ready Player One isn't too far off the mark for what the future holds.

  • bluejauntebluejaunte Posts: 1,923
    Divamakeup said:
    Karuki said:
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

     

    I think Ready Player One isn't too far off the mark for what the future holds.

    Yep, excellent book! Worth a read. Soon as a Spielberg movie too.

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Karuki said:
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

    What happened in Second Life was everyone got more and more ridiculously tall (from already tall default avatars). It's a world of NBA players and most places if you have a typical human height avatar the environment is scaled too large to a noticeable degree because everything is built around the super-tall people. Really interesting phenomenon. I'm curious whether that sort of height inflation is also going to happen in things like VRChat which are better designed to actually feel as though you "are" your avatar.

  • The DiigitalsThe Diigitals Posts: 380
    agent unawares said:
    Karuki said:
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

    What happened in Second Life was everyone got more and more ridiculously tall (from already tall default avatars). It's a world of NBA players and most places if you have a typical human height avatar the environment is scaled too large to a noticeable degree because everything is built around the super-tall people. Really interesting phenomenon. I'm curious whether that sort of height inflation is also going to happen in things like VRChat which are better designed to actually feel as though you "are" your avatar.

    Well imagine when we realise these avatars don't even need organs and we can make their bodies whatever we see as beautiful, regardless of wether it could actually function in the real world. Leaving real world beauty ideals behind and exploring the absolute extremes if what beauty means is something we can do in 3D, it's something that I don't think films where digital avatars exist (saw a crappy one on netflix) explore enough.

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Karuki said:
    agent unawares said:
    Karuki said:
    bluejaunte said:
    Karuki said:
    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's funny, I work in retail management and last week a coworker asked me about what I did in 3D, was it like pixar or disney. I pointed out several big makeup ads with cover models and explained, trying to replicate that image but with 3D and not photography then showed them the DAZ gallery on my phone. I believe they went and d/led DS later that night, LOL.

    I have an interview coming up with a retoucher who has a big following, I want to try to stop people being scared and embrace the tech. Everyone just thinks that I'm trying to replace real models, but it's actually more of a way to express my creativity on my down time and hash out concepts for real life shoots. I think it could be a really powerful tool for many photographers...

    Seeing the impossible beauty standards in the fashion industry, it's not hard to imagine digital humans could potentially replace real people. At least as long they don't have to walk down actual catwalks. Then again, sooner or later all these events might happen in VR anyway so the models might as well just be digital and perfectly molded to the preferences of the fashion designer. The model herself may become just another creation just like a dress.  

    Far fetched? Going completely digital already happens a lot in advertisement, cars are often completely digital. So the fear might not be entirely unjustified. Especially since fashion models are only means to the end of showing fashion, save a few ones who become superstars :)

    I see us all having a digital avatar, with the progression of VR we could be anyone we wanted. Forget race, forget gender, of you want to be 6ft 2 GORGEOUS supermodel then that can be you...

    I want to live in a world where we can choose our exact appearance... but for now I’m just creating imagery that I love :)

    What happened in Second Life was everyone got more and more ridiculously tall (from already tall default avatars). It's a world of NBA players and most places if you have a typical human height avatar the environment is scaled too large to a noticeable degree because everything is built around the super-tall people. Really interesting phenomenon. I'm curious whether that sort of height inflation is also going to happen in things like VRChat which are better designed to actually feel as though you "are" your avatar.

    Well imagine when we realise these avatars don't even need organs and we can make their bodies whatever we see as beautiful, regardless of wether it could actually function in the real world. Leaving real world beauty ideals behind and exploring the absolute extremes if what beauty means is something we can do in 3D, it's something that I don't think films where digital avatars exist (saw a crappy one on netflix) explore enough.

    Yep, the scale blowup literally changed the context of beauty in that world.

  • ChadCryptoChadCrypto Posts: 596

    This is so true, I have gone into VRchat a few times. People can choose and create their own avatars. And explore different Vr worlds. It's quite weird, yet interesting. I have been too busy working on Daz stuff lately to really check it out. Though our world is really becoming a virtual one, where it can be more fun then the turbulant one we live in the real now.

     

     

  • chris-2599934chris-2599934 Posts: 1,839

    Great images and interesting story - thanks for sharing them.

    I wonder if one reason Shudu had people fooled - besides your very considerable talent, of course - is that most of us rarely see somebody of her exact skin tone. Any uncanniness is ascribed to that, rather than making us wonder if she's actually real. I suspect an audience of viewers from southern Ethiopia or eastern Chad would not be so taken in.

  • MegaPMegaP Posts: 180

    Firstly,congratulations Karuki I think she'wonderful.
    ​I too come from the Fashion world [pattern making,textiles and garment construction] Sadly with manufacturing going off shore the industry has died a slow death.

    With creators here coming up with amazing skins,clothing etc it's inevitible our work is getting better and that alone is so exciting.

    The CGI,Hologram,Robotic,Hololens world is so fascinating/controversial at the moment you only have to watch Black Mirror to see what may come.

    And yes Bluejaunte car commercials are mostly cgi now [P.S I love your new girl and will post an image on her thread}

    I started a small page on Instagram also,the great thing is it's mostly images and you don't have to reveal anything personal.

    I'll follow you over there and send you a little message...

    Good on you Karuki

  • Rashad CarterRashad Carter Posts: 1,803

    Karuki, Brilliant work! Congratualtions on a job extremely well done! The expression in the eyes is understated in a very classy way, leveling up the scene immensely. The model looks very feminine, love the length of her neck and appendages. Excellent technical merits as well. The metalic surfaces look amazing, I love the way the hoops at her ears appear to be affected by gravity. The fabric of the t-shirt looks amazing, I'd love to know if that is Dforce at work or some other cloth simulator? The skin is perfection.

    chris-2599934 said:

    Great images and interesting story - thanks for sharing them.

    I wonder if one reason Shudu had people fooled - besides your very considerable talent, of course - is that most of us rarely see somebody of her exact skin tone. Any uncanniness is ascribed to that, rather than making us wonder if she's actually real. I suspect an audience of viewers from southern Ethiopia or eastern Chad would not be so taken in.

    I think you are spot on with this observation! I was thinking the exact same thing. We don't see this skin tonal range very often and thus are more openn-minded about what might seem plausible especially under extreme lighting. I'll even go further and state that another part of the magic is the stylistic context of the images, the bold colors in the surrounding contrasting with the sable skin. Very good!!

    In another thread recently there was discussion about realistic textures available at Daz3d and one of the statements repeated often by myself and other contributors is that the realism game really is in the surfacing and specular definitions, moreso than diffuse color schemes. Here the diffuse color of the model is almost a non issue. She could be painted and we'd still find her convincing. We can easily imagine a real woman with reasonably dark skin being lit with orange lights while wearing some sort of makeup with metalic elements, thus allowing typically white specular on skin to become orange tinted and it still appear plausible. What I feel these images do is to play to the strengths of what the CG and Iray in particular can manage, which is the specular and surface bumpiness details. Excellent work, Karuki!

  • mmkdazmmkdaz Posts: 335

    Congratulations!

  • The DiigitalsThe Diigitals Posts: 380
    Rashad Carter said:

    Karuki, Brilliant work! Congratualtions on a job extremely well done! The expression in the eyes is understated in a very classy way, leveling up the scene immensely. The model looks very feminine, love the length of her neck and appendages. Excellent technical merits as well. The metalic surfaces look amazing, I love the way the hoops at her ears appear to be affected by gravity. The fabric of the t-shirt looks amazing, I'd love to know if that is Dforce at work or some other cloth simulator? The skin is perfection.

    chris-2599934 said:

    Great images and interesting story - thanks for sharing them.

    I wonder if one reason Shudu had people fooled - besides your very considerable talent, of course - is that most of us rarely see somebody of her exact skin tone. Any uncanniness is ascribed to that, rather than making us wonder if she's actually real. I suspect an audience of viewers from southern Ethiopia or eastern Chad would not be so taken in.

    I think you are spot on with this observation! I was thinking the exact same thing. We don't see this skin tonal range very often and thus are more openn-minded about what might seem plausible especially under extreme lighting. I'll even go further and state that another part of the magic is the stylistic context of the images, the bold colors in the surrounding contrasting with the sable skin. Very good!!

    In another thread recently there was discussion about realistic textures available at Daz3d and one of the statements repeated often by myself and other contributors is that the realism game really is in the surfacing and specular definitions, moreso than diffuse color schemes. Here the diffuse color of the model is almost a non issue. She could be painted and we'd still find her convincing. We can easily imagine a real woman with reasonably dark skin being lit with orange lights while wearing some sort of makeup with metalic elements, thus allowing typically white specular on skin to become orange tinted and it still appear plausible. What I feel these images do is to play to the strengths of what the CG and Iray in particular can manage, which is the specular and surface bumpiness details. Excellent work, Karuki!

    Thanks for this! Sorry I missed it!!

    The T-shirt was created in marvelous designer and I created the diffuse myself taking pictures of the one she was sent (was fun!) the material settings were taking using one of my shader packs and then modified to add more transluceny (I love translucency in fabric).

     

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    Karuki Awesome work! The lip colour and the necklace gave it way as 3D.That doesn't change the fact that you made an awesome render.
  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    The thing that blows me away about Lil Miquela is the lighting and how seamlessly she fits in the scenery. I can ONLY get that effect by actually photographing something. I wish I could get my renders looking that realistic.
  • Cayman StudiosCayman Studios Posts: 1,136

    I see this has now featured on the BBC website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-45474286.

    The video on the page (also available here) includes views of DAZ Studio, though it is not named.

  • akmerlowakmerlow Posts: 1,124

    Wow, interesting!

    I would like to see more collisions between world of fashion and world of daz... i guess userbases are very different so it's rare

     

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 354

    I was watching unsual insanely gorgeous models and saw this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY8jy6EjK8s

    Then I saw Shudu Gram!!!  I am a woman and I think I am in love!!!  Kidding, but this girl is breathtaking!!!  Congradulations on your more than beautiful girl!!  I think really dark is so very gorgeous, as well as albino.  Those extremes are just such perfection!!

    I am just beginning with DS and would love to have a dark black woman AND man with this caliber of perfect skin.  Are there any products that you would recommend!!  You can see my gallery at Rendo as jan_scrapper..https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/?uid=377807.

    I would, also, like to have a perfect skin white woman and man.  

    Again, Shudu Gram is...well...amazing!!!

     

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