Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 11

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    Well, after I dumped my cart and went shopping elsewhere, I bought a lot of Photoshop plugins. (Envato) That is annoying too- that many are "no longer available." I can't find my download folder that had all of them in it, so quite a few are gone. So I would suggest if you shop there, be sure and get your downloads AND put them where you know you can find them LOL. So I actually had fun shopping that day anyway. 

    I did get the banner for an additional 20% off Mabel so I went ahead with it, so I'd keep getting the additional discounts on future bundles. I also used my DO coupon. But I got three and only three add-ons instead of all the ones I would have gotten if Daz hadn't messed up with pulling bundles.  And frankly I didn't bother with any free bundles because of course, they still don't have the coupon code working with free items, and I was annoyed and decided it just wasn't worth my time to file a ticket. Even the bundles I don't have that I'd use, I own some or most of the bundles. I don't do Genesis 2 or earlier any more, not enough time to mess with them. And those old bundles will be offered again. 

    Glad people are liking Mabel. The vendors did a really good job, and yeah, it's fun to see a hair with curlers! 

     

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,449

    Yeah I was looking for a hair with curlers a while back and now I've got one

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    oooohhh i picked up a couple of photoshop things from envato a little while back - just love them! 

    Novica said:

    Well, after I dumped my cart and went shopping elsewhere, I bought a lot of Photoshop plugins. (Envato) That is annoying too- that many are "no longer available." I can't find my download folder that had all of them in it, so quite a few are gone. So I would suggest if you shop there, be sure and get your downloads AND put them where you know you can find them LOL. So I actually had fun shopping that day anyway. 

     

     

     

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    @jakiblue   Did you get Pencilogy? This was the first one I did an hour ago. Still learning how to play with it. But you get good results right out of the box. I didn't color in her ponytail to see how it would look. 

    Edit: if anyone gets this, under Gradient- Stroke adds the border.  

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  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    NO! but omg I NEED IT!!!!!! 

    Novica said:

    @jakiblue   Did you get Pencilogy? This was the first one I did an hour ago. Still learning how to play with it. But you get good results right out of the box. I didn't color in her ponytail to see how it would look. 

     

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    @jakiblue The video on YouTube that is mentioned in the help file is wrong, if you want to see this in action its here.  Turn your sound off, you don't need it and it's very annoying. There's no instruction, and he goes fast, but you'll get the idea of what you can do with it. 

  • jakibluejakiblue Posts: 7,281

    The one I picked up a bit ago, I used for this: https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/601461

    laugh

    I absolutely love it and it's really hard to NOT use it on just about every image I do. LOL!!!!!

    PM me and tell me the others you got!!!!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    jakiblue said:

    NO! but omg I NEED IT!!!!!! 

    Novica said:

    @jakiblue   Did you get Pencilogy? This was the first one I did an hour ago. Still learning how to play with it. But you get good results right out of the box. I didn't color in her ponytail to see how it would look. 

     

    Do those work with Adobe Photoshop Essentials too?

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    I don't know. I have the CC 2018 subscription. But that artist updates things and answers questions- very well respected. If you email him, he answers. He's constantly responding  and having people email him (or her?) if they have questions. Just go to the Comments on any one of his products and you'll see the email. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    edited July 2018
    Novica said:

    I don't know. I have the CC 2018 subscription. But that artist updates things and answers questions- very well respected. If you email him, he answers. He's constantly responding  and having people email him (or her?) if they have questions. Just go to the Comments on any one of his products and you'll see the email. 

    thanks, I see it is at graphicriver net. I have asked. I search and found out that CS3 is the required minimum Adobe version which is the equivalent of Adobe PS Essentials 5 I read. I have Adobe PS Essentials 9 so if it works in Essentials that would be good. The Niko tools from Google do work in Adobe PS Elements 9.

    By the way, would the Adobe PS Bridge for DAZ Studio word with Adobe Photoshop Elements?

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482
    Novica said:

    Well, after I dumped my cart and went shopping elsewhere, I bought a lot of Photoshop plugins. (Envato) That is annoying too- that many are "no longer available." I can't find my download folder that had all of them in it, so quite a few are gone. So I would suggest if you shop there, be sure and get your downloads AND put them where you know you can find them LOL. So I actually had fun shopping that day anyway. 

    I did get the banner for an additional 20% off Mabel so I went ahead with it, so I'd keep getting the additional discounts on future bundles. I also used my DO coupon. But I got three and only three add-ons instead of all the ones I would have gotten if Daz hadn't messed up with pulling bundles.  And frankly I didn't bother with any free bundles because of course, they still don't have the coupon code working with free items, and I was annoyed and decided it just wasn't worth my time to file a ticket. Even the bundles I don't have that I'd use, I own some or most of the bundles. I don't do Genesis 2 or earlier any more, not enough time to mess with them. And those old bundles will be offered again. 

    Glad people are liking Mabel. The vendors did a really good job, and yeah, it's fun to see a hair with curlers! 

     

    I hate to be dense, but where are you finding those? I own everything Topaz Labs has put out, but I don't know that anything looks quite like that. Can you PM me if it's not okay to post enough info here? I can never have enough Photoshop plugins and brushes.

  • isidornisidorn Posts: 1,601
    Novica said:

    @jakiblue   Did you get Pencilogy? This was the first one I did an hour ago. Still learning how to play with it. But you get good results right out of the box. I didn't color in her ponytail to see how it would look. 

    The render itself is a really good portrait @Novica and the "sketchified" versions are really beautiful. I particulary like the last one. I think the thicker colour on her face make her face really pop out in that one. I don't know if anyone agrees with me on this, but I think a funny side effect is that in the render it's obvious the hand is her own, but in the "sketchified" versions it looks more like someone else's hand, even though the pose of it isn't quite right for that.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548
    edited July 2018

    Do you have a link for Pencilogy?  I can't find it

    Never mind, I found it

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    Hi guys, I'm just getting back online, went to sleep after I posted. I see you found the info, with the product being Pencilogy at graphicriver.net and having already Googled it, I knew it'd be easy to find. I had to Google it myself because the link is wrong to the video in the Help file. :)  

    Graphic River is the section of Envato that has the Photoshop Plug-ins, etc. Envato is a collection of sites that do different themes/topics. 

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    edited July 2018

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142

    For those that have old versions of Photoshop the actions needed for the Adobe Photoshop Actions for the above is CS3 and if you have only PS Elements the Elements version must be new enough to support Photoshop Actions (unter Windows > Actions). I have PS Elements 9 (for reference Adobe Photoshop Elements 2018 = Adobe Photshop Elements 16) and it doesn't seem to support Actions (or maybe it won't show that Action submenu without an action file installed). Portions of Actions that use Adobe Photoshop features that are not available in Photoshop Elements will not work. 

     

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    @nonesuch00   I'm glad you understand all that- I get confused enough with trying to figure out if CC over there means it will or won't work with CC2018. Many switched to say "minimum CC whatever" which helps, but I'm lost so far as Elements goes. How does that differ from the regular CC Photoshop?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    edited July 2018
    Novica said:

    @nonesuch00   I'm glad you understand all that- I get confused enough with trying to figure out if CC over there means it will or won't work with CC2018. Many switched to say "minimum CC whatever" which helps, but I'm lost so far as Elements goes. How does that differ from the regular CC Photoshop?

    It's actually the same except that PS Elements is missing some advanced regular PS features. For people like me it is difficult to even find a bullet list of what PS has the PS Elements does not have, I just know that PS must have hundreds of more features but PSE is also good.

    I have lots of filters and features but for novices like me we prefer things like DAZ Studio presets & Adobe PS Actions! 

    This render has a PSE 2009 filter applied to it (the crosshatch): 

    I will buy PSE 2018 (PSE 16) for $69 at Amazon this year (but wait keep a look out for their Christmas season sale!). There is also a Premiere Elements that does simplfied video editing that can be bought in a bundle with PSE bringing the price to $99. Of course at Amazon there is the very flexible return policy too (30 days like DAZ).

    Problem though is with my PSE it is slow! So I'm betting PSE 2018 is about as slow but then so is Gimp & if you have PS subscription I bet it is slow too. 

    By the way I stumbled upon a PSE 9 feature that lets you erase a photo background with 2 or 3 clicks! I was amazed at how fast it was compared to the way I manually used the 'magic wand' or the 'multiple additive eyedropper color selections' method of erasing a image background in the past.

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    I believe the full Photoshop subscription is $10 a month (minus the huge cloud storage, which I don't use)  I subscribed to the $30+ one, not sure if it had the same as the $10 one, which my son has- and the $10 is the complete version and same thing unless I'm mistaken. Haven't looked at the pricing recently, so take this with a grain of salt. So after this month I'll probably switch. (I only did the monthly.) I don't subscribe to it all the time as I rarely use, but am looking at really diving into the plugins.

    One advantage (and the reason I bring this up) is something I learned from a video- if you don't have the right version of Photoshop for the plugin, if you have the subscription apparently there is a box to click and you can choose EARLIER VERSIONS. That would mean any plugin, you'd be covered. I haven't gone in to Adobe to see if that is true yet. (I don't want to mess with my settings to test it, either.) Anyone know for sure if this is true about the earlier versions?

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    Novica said:

    I believe the full Photoshop subscription is $10 a month (minus the huge cloud storage, which I don't use)  I subscribed to the $30+ one, not sure if it had the same as the $10 one, which my son has- and the $10 is the complete version and same thing unless I'm mistaken. So after this month I'll probably switch. (I only did the monthly.) I don't subscribe to it all the time as I rarely use, but am looking at really diving into the plugins.

    One advantage (and the reason I bring this up) is something I learned from a video- if you don't have the right version of Photoshop for the plugin, if you have the subscription apparently there is a box to click and you can choose EARLIER VERSIONS. That would mean any plugin, you'd be covered. I haven't gone in to Adobe to see if that is true yet. (I don't want to mess with my settings to test it, either.) Anyone know for sure if this is true about the earlier versions?

    I will probably in the future buy a monthly too but only if I can cancel and renew, 1 month at a time. I won't do that though until I'm actually scanning old photo negative and prints in and trying to restore or enhance them. There must be a 1000 or so more of them, so that is not a job I want to have to repeat just because I only had PSE instead of full-fledged PS. 

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482

    If you watch for Black Friday, Amazon at least has a good price on the annual Photoshop plan. I buy it each year. I tried Gimp a few years ago, but having used Photoshop from its very first iteration on the Macintosh, I find Gimp less than user-friendly and intuitive.

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482
    Novica said:

    Hi guys, I'm just getting back online, went to sleep after I posted. I see you found the info, with the product being Pencilogy at graphicriver.net and having already Googled it, I knew it'd be easy to find. I had to Google it myself because the link is wrong to the video in the Help file. :)  

    Graphic River is the section of Envato that has the Photoshop Plug-ins, etc. Envato is a collection of sites that do different themes/topics. 

    Thank you! Found them.

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548

    I finally broke down and signed up for Photoshop CC a little over a year ago.  I resent the heck out of subscription plans and its super inconvenient to not be able to use it when I have no internet (like when we go camping).  I do love the software, and I have a copy of photoshop elements13 which I can at least use while offline.  Gimp was completely unintuitive for me as well for some reason. I really tried to use Gimp but ya, I just couldn't.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    On the other hand, I'm finding Cosmic to be challenging. It makes long streaks that are vertical and you will need to get the mask and brush out some of it. If you use "up" it's better than some of the other choices (left, right, middle) because those really make the brush show up. They also show large bands which are obvious. So I'm not as fond of Cosmic as I am of Pencilogy. I'm not posting the results, I'm annoyed.

     

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,449

    Stopped using Photoshop when Adobe went to that subscription crap didn't buy 3dMax for the same reason when I had an oppurtunity to get it at a really good price bought C4d instead 

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651

    I do yearly. I prefer postwork to rendering so I find exploring photoshop and its capacities a lot of fun.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    But here's Ultimate Paint Action, right out of the box. Yes, it's that sharp. No postwork. You can change the color tones, reduce the saturation, etc in the layers- but this is without anything being done to it.

    This took 15 seconds btw.

     

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    Compared to Cartoon Sketch Action 2, out of the box. (Time: 15 seconds.)  Notice the knuckes. This one has less squirrely lines and details. 

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,142
    edited July 2018
    Novica said:

    On the other hand, I'm finding Cosmic to be challenging. It makes long streaks that are vertical and you will need to get the mask and brush out some of it. If you use "up" it's better than some of the other choices (left, right, middle) because those really make the brush show up. They also show large bands which are obvious. So I'm not as fond of Cosmic as I am of Pencilogy. I'm not posting the results, I'm annoyed.

     

    Judging from the example of that PS Action PA I only like the Pencilology & two Watercolor actions. The oil paint filter both Gimp & PS Elements 9 has good old paint and other filters too. 

    I can tell their actions are basically just a case of multple layered masks of the same image with one or more built in filters applied on, sometime multiple but with different adjustment parameters, success times and layered over one another. They still look good and save oodles of time for $6 each.

    I think the Ultimate Paint Action looks more cartoonish than the Cartoon Sketch Action 2, which is looking not to significantly different than a straight-up render with renderer filter, tonemapping and lighting adjustments.

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548

    I resisted the subscription (mine is yearly as well, but I pay monthly) for a long time, because I didn't need to use it all the time.  But since I use it daily, its been a good investment.

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