Missing Morphs for Genesis 2 Male

MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I have purchased the Pro Bundle and when I try to use either Brandon or Logan, I get a missing files dialog

/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/CTRLFitness.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Head/PHMEyesIrisSize.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/CTRLWeight.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/FBMBodyTone.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/PBMNeckSize.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Head/PHMPupilsDilate.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/FBMBodybuilderDetails.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/SCLNeckLength.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/FBMThin.dsf
/data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Morphs/DAZ 3D/Evolution Body/PBMAdamsApple.dsf

Was there something else I was supposed to get?

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  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited December 1969

    Same here. I don't think the body and Head Morphs have been released yet.

  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926
    edited December 1969

    Wait, shouldn't something that basic be part of the Pro Bundle?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited November 2013

    No they aren't normally. Weren't originally with the M4 and V4 pro bundles, nor any previous Genesis pro bundles.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926
    edited December 1969

    But really, shouldn't they be? It seems to me that DAZ needs to re-think how they do several things. (Bundles, EULAs, unmarked time limits, etc...) But selling unusable products really is wrong, I know I can return it, but I'll want it when you eventually come out with the support products,

    nor any previous Genesis pro bundles.
    Just because you did it wrong in the past doesn't mean you should keep doing it wrong. Something labeled Professional Bundle should have all the basic support stuff in it. This is where the M4 stuff and the morphs belong.

    Sorry if I sound angry, I like your products, but DAZ's business model is really non-understandable sometimes.

  • sfaa69sfaa69 Posts: 353
    edited December 1969

    MarcCCTx said:
    Wait, shouldn't something that basic be part of the Pro Bundle?

    One would think that they should, since the base figure is extremely limited without them. Whether DAZ includes them or not doesn't alter that. Maybe the PA's who build characters that require the morphs would be displeased if their products were not purchased because people who spent a lot of money on the bundles don't have the required morphs.
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited November 2013

    Morphs were part of the Gen 4 pro bundles. I have the original V4 pro bundle and the morphs ++ pack was included. Gen 4 had the base figure, the starter, Complete and Pro. Complete and Pro had the morphs included.

    Because of the length of release time between Genesis and V5, the Evolution morphs were released well before V5. V5 and M5 Pro Suites had the morphs but the Pro and Starter bundles didn't. DAZ dropped the Complete level for the Gen 4 at some point but I do know the V4 and M4 Complete were part of the disc software for the original book by Les Pardew for DS.

    V6 Pro Bundle doesn't have the morphs either.

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I stand corrected. I was convinced that Orginally the morphs weren't included. Another one of those senior moments. :red:

  • ScraverXScraverX Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    I stand corrected. I was convinced that Orginally the morphs weren't included. Another one of those senior moments. :red:

    People are allowed to have those chohole. :)

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    I stand corrected. I was convinced that Orginally the morphs weren't included. Another one of those senior moments. :red:

    People are allowed to have those chohole. :)

    Yes I enjoy being allowed to have senior moments. Could never have blonde ones, as I am (or should that be was) red haired.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    personally, i'm not paying out for a pro bundle to see error messages. does the base M6 give error messages?

  • DaikatanaDaikatana Posts: 830
    edited December 1969

    I never expected the morphs to be IN the pro bundle. After observing how they were separate releases in the past, I expected them to be a separate purchase. What I did NOT expect however is for the morphs to NOT be available FOR purchase and thereby make a large part of the character bundles unusable.

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    When M6 was announced I knew that DAZ would follow the same pattern as G2F and make the morphs a separate purchase as well. I am more than a little annoyed that they put the M6 bundles out but the characters don't work because they haven't gotten around to releasing the G2M head and body morphs. Back@ssward if you ask me. But hey. It's the megaprize.

    However jacking the price of pro bundle up by $41 over the price of V6 Pro bundle is a little much. Especially when you get less in the M6 Pro Bundle than you do in V6 Pro Bundle. But, hey, guy things don't sell as much anyway so we'll just help things along in that department.

  • ScraverXScraverX Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    personally, i'm not paying out for a pro bundle to see error messages. does the base M6 give error messages?

    No. Base M6 doesn't throw errors.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    personally, i'm not paying out for a pro bundle to see error messages. does the base M6 give error messages?

    No. Base M6 doesn't throw errors.


    thanks. :) i'll settle for the base then. maybe they'll offer an upgrade to his genitals in the future. :coolsmile:

  • blainemillerblainemiller Posts: 59
    edited December 1969

    Nos so sure. I had a lousy time with the old DAZ studio on a different computer. Junk (content) was all over the lace. New machine, new version of studio... all has been running smoothly...

    Just got M6 - just the base figure. I have the m4 morphs for G2 Male installed.

    Get an error where it says it cannot locate:
    /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 2/Male/Genesis2Male.dsf

    Maybe I'm just dense. Don't know how to fix it. searched for Genesis2Male.dsf elsewhere... canot seem to locate it

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    did you install the starter essentials for G2M? that sounds like it should be a base file?

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    As in the past, the head and body morphs are separate from the bundles. They were supposed to be released last night, but due to a scheduler issue they were not. We are working on releasing them (and making sure they are included in all appropriate categories so that discounts etc apply to the morphs). They should be out within the hour. I apologize for the inconvenience.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited November 2013

    Yeah, that was the FIRST thing I noticed right off the bat. I've decided I'm not touching the Pro Bundle until the end of this month (due to unexpected financing) but was highly intending on getting some of the non-Pro content today, the G2M Morph Bundle being the main priority...

    Post edited by RCDeschene on
  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969

    The morphs are now live. You can find them here:

    http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/genesis-2-male-head-shapes
    http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/genesis-2-male-body-morphs

    The bundle will be live shortly, so if you want to buy both packs wait a tick and you can save some money.

  • DZ_jaredDZ_jared Posts: 1,316
    edited December 1969
  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited December 1969

    YAY!!! :cheese:

  • ScraverXScraverX Posts: 152
    edited December 1969

    I am happy too.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited November 2013

    if you drill down to Brandon, it listed required products.

    Logan product page doesn't show as requiring anything other than M6.


    the head morphs product doesn't list any expressions. so, the only expressions are in the starter essentials?

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  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401
    edited December 1969

    Greetings,

    the head morphs product doesn't list any expressions. so, the only expressions are in the starter essentials?
    There's a PA coming out with some extra expressions, but V6 didn't have anything extra either in the expression area (beyond what G2F had) IIRC.

    -- Morgan

  • Mari-AnneMari-Anne Posts: 363
    edited December 1969

    I'm confused. Aren't the Head & Body Morphs supposed to be a part of Genesis 2 Male Starter Essentials? Or do we have to purchase them separately??

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    The head and body morphs are not included in the Genesis Starter Essentials or in pro bundles. They are a separate purchase either singly or as a bundle. It was the same for the G2F when it was released.

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited December 1969

    The Victoria 6 Pro Bundle has the following note on its product page

    In order to have the full functionality of this product, you will want to purchase the Genesis 2 Female Head and Body Morphs.

    The Michael 6 Pro Bundle has no such note. Hopefully DAZ will see to that little omission.

    I think one of the big differences between Gen 5 and Gen 6 is that Gen 5 didn't actually need morphs++/evolution/"morphs" for all the "pro bundle" content to function. The Gen 6 pro bundle is, IMO, incomplete. It's not 100% functional out of the box, unless you buy the optional morphs. (which no longer have a cool name. What's up with that, DAZ?)

    Gen 6 reminds me of the old Zygote days, where you had to make a little shopping list to get a character together. Victoria 2 came with just a mesh, you had to buy a basic texture map separate, then some clothes, and some hair, before you were up and running.

    Gen 4 was wonderful, because you had a "one stop" solution. Buy the pro bundle, and you were ready to run: character, several nice character morphs, the fairly comprehensive "morphs++" that made "dial spun" characters possible, couple of not-so-laughable outfits, and some tolerable hair. One purchase, and you can start making art.

    IMO, again, that bundle is one of the reasons generation 4 is still the "gold standard" and the "rosetta stone", with more content than Gen 5 and 6 put together. With the lack of acceptance of Gen 5 and Gen 6 in the Poser community, and all the awesome Gen 4 freebies we had recently on DAZ, I don't see that all changing soon.

    I consider morphs++ to be essential, even without the new Gen 6 "requirement" of having it to run your pro bundle content. And I consider some ability to utilize Gen 4 resources to be essential, too.

    Genesis broke my "get the bundle and go" ideal.

    Gen 5 operated pretty well with Gen 4 textures, and maybe 80% of clothes and hair. Obviously, character morphs didn't translate, unless you dropped $32 on GenX. And unbundling "morphs++" was a $33 hit, but that's not too bad. $65 gets you up and running, for both males and females.

    Gen 6 is insane. Splitting male and female means splitting the evolution morphs into two $33 packages. Gen 4 textures (half the Gen 5 characters use Gen 4 textures, what's up with that?) means a $15 M4 or V4 for Gen 2 package for each gender, and a $15 texture autocoverter for each gender. $63 per gender. If GenX 2 costs the same as Gen X, we've got $158 additional cost to get Gen 6 running to my satisfaction.

    OK, rant done.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,489
    edited November 2013

    MarcCCTx said:
    But really, shouldn't they be? It seems to me that DAZ needs to re-think how they do several things. (Bundles, EULAs, unmarked time limits, etc...) But selling unusable products really is wrong, I know I can return it, but I'll want it when you eventually come out with the support products,

    nor any previous Genesis pro bundles.
    Just because you did it wrong in the past doesn't mean you should keep doing it wrong. Something labeled Professional Bundle should have all the basic support stuff in it. This is where the M4 stuff and the morphs belong.

    Sorry if I sound angry, I like your products, but DAZ's business model is really non-understandable sometimes. I agree! A PRO Bundle (I bought it) without the necessary BASICS is a bit... dubious. But Michael 6 himself is sooo attractive... Does he really need morphs? :)

    Post edited by caravelle on
  • ServantServant Posts: 759
    edited December 1969

    Mari-Anne said:
    I'm confused. Aren't the Head & Body Morphs supposed to be a part of Genesis 2 Male Starter Essentials? Or do we have to purchase them separately??

    Unlike Genesis 1 which had some standard head and body morphs built-in, the similar morphs for Genesis 2 Females and Males are not. Whereas Genesis 1's Evolution morphs added more variety to the basic shaping tools, the Evolution morphs for G2 ARE the basic shaping tools.

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    The G2F and G2M head and body morph packs are not two $33 morph bundles. Buying during the intro sale with my PC coupon both times, I paid a little over $10 for the head and body morph bundles for both.

    The only difference between Genesis/Gen 5 and G2F/M/Gen 6 is that instead of buying head and body morphs once (at a higher price tag), you buy the head and body morphs for each gender.

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up my order history. I purchased the Genesis morph pack during one of DAZ December sales. Even with the discount, the bundle still cost $20. The combined total for the the G2F and G2M head and body morph bundles comes out to $20 and change.

    I might only have had to buy the Genesis morphs once but they weren't any cheaper.

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