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  • ServantServant Posts: 759
    edited November 2013

    icprncss said:
    The G2F and G2M head and body morph packs are not two $33 morph bundles. Buying during the intro sale with my PC coupon both times, I paid a little over $10 for the head and body morph bundles for both.

    The only difference between Genesis/Gen 5 and G2F/M/Gen 6 is that instead of buying head and body morphs once (at a higher price tag), you buy the head and body morphs for each gender.

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up my order history. I purchased the Genesis morph pack during one of DAZ December sales. Even with the discount, the bundle still cost $20. The combined total for the the G2F and G2M head and body morph bundles comes out to $20 and change.

    I might only have had to buy the Genesis morphs once but they weren't any cheaper.

    As I mentioned, the evolution morphs for Genesis 1 were additional morphs, but Genesis 1 had built in basic morphs (thin, heavy, bodybuilder, child, etc.).

    Genesis 2 Female and Male doesn't even have that and, instead, the evolution morphs are the basic morphs as a separate purchase, much like the Morphs ++ from the previous Gen 4.

    Related to that, the M5/V5 character morphs could work without the evolution morphs for G1 (i.e. just the M5 morph and basic Genesis 1 morphs and you're good to go). The evo morphs weren't required. By comparison, G2 needs to have the evo morphs for the characters included in the bundles to work.

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  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,601
    edited December 1969

    BorgyB said:

    Related to that, the M5/V5 character morphs could work without the evolution morphs for G1 (i.e. just the M5 morph and basic Genesis 1 morphs and you're good to go). The evo morphs weren't required. By comparison, G2 needs to have the evo morphs for the characters included in the bundles to work.

    Actually the V5 Pro Bundle included characters that needed the Evolution morphs.

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited December 1969

    BorgyB said:
    icprncss said:
    The G2F and G2M head and body morph packs are not two $33 morph bundles. Buying during the intro sale with my PC coupon both times, I paid a little over $10 for the head and body morph bundles for both.

    The only difference between Genesis/Gen 5 and G2F/M/Gen 6 is that instead of buying head and body morphs once (at a higher price tag), you buy the head and body morphs for each gender.

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up my order history. I purchased the Genesis morph pack during one of DAZ December sales. Even with the discount, the bundle still cost $20. The combined total for the the G2F and G2M head and body morph bundles comes out to $20 and change.

    I might only have had to buy the Genesis morphs once but they weren't any cheaper.

    As I mentioned, the evolution morphs for Genesis 1 were additional morphs, but Genesis 1 had built in basic morphs (thin, heavy, bodybuilder, child, etc.).

    Genesis 2 Female and Male doesn't even have that and, instead, the evolution morphs are the basic morphs as a separate purchase, much like the Morphs ++ from the previous Gen 4.

    Related to that, the M5/V5 character morphs could work without the evolution morphs for G1 (i.e. just the M5 morph and basic Genesis 1 morphs and you're good to go). The evo morphs weren't required. By comparison, G2 needs to have the evo morphs for the characters included in the bundles to work.

    Actually the Evo morphs were required in a few sets in the bundles.

    Also M5V5 were released months after the base genesis, so yes you needed a few morphs to get started, hence why you got a few morphs to start with, though they weren't really gender specific so you ended up with morphs that weren't really male or female unless you adding in the V4/M4 shape. This time it's not the case, so you could buy the base morphs (which are far more than what was available than Gen 1 and also contains split morphs as well) without M6/V6.

  • im_a_thinker_d779e27214im_a_thinker_d779e27214 Posts: 18
    edited December 1969

    WhereintheHell is Genesis 2 Male ANYWAY? I find morphs and this and that, but the figure? Uh uh. What's up with that? Why would I buy morphs for a figure I don't even have and can't seem to get -- especially since the figure apparently isn't included in the morphs? And Michael 6 IS ridiculously expensive, and I think the genitals games SUCKS!

    Sorry... There are limits. you know? Everything seems to have doubled in price lately.

    Thinker

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 3,581
    edited December 1969

    Thinking Horndog said:
    WhereintheHell is Genesis 2 Male ANYWAY? I find morphs and this and that, but the figure? Uh uh. What's up with that? Why would I buy morphs for a figure I don't even have and can't seem to get -- especially since the figure apparently isn't included in the morphs? And Michael 6 IS ridiculously expensive, and I think the genitals games SUCKS!

    Sorry... There are limits. you know? Everything seems to have doubled in price lately.

    Thinker

    G2M is free. Check your account, either in the product library or DIM for the Genesis 2 Male essentials and install that.

  • im_a_thinker_d779e27214im_a_thinker_d779e27214 Posts: 18
    edited December 1969

    Thanks! I actually checked before I posted, but... Sorry about the rant. I try to keep up with the daily announcements, but things slide by ANYWAY. As for Michael 6, well, my comments there stand. I probably won't have a choice, basically, but that's another reason to be unhappy about the whole thing. Even with a PC discount, it's too much for not enough... I'll have to go out and buy all of the compatibility fixes, too -- and THAT's not right. I understand that they have to make a buck, but DAMN!

    Thinker

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:
    The G2F and G2M head and body morph packs are not two $33 morph bundles. Buying during the intro sale with my PC coupon both times, I paid a little over $10 for the head and body morph bundles for both.
    In other words, they really are $33 bundles, on sale for a limited time, and with an additional discount provided by a coupon not available to all users. (OK, $32.95, but that $0.05 is a rediculous Americanism that I choose to ignore to make the discussion flow better).
    icprncss said:
    The only difference between Genesis/Gen 5 and G2F/M/Gen 6 is that instead of buying head and body morphs once (at a higher price tag), you buy the head and body morphs for each gender.

    Like the individual Gen 2 male and female bundles, the Gen 1 morph bundle is $33. I'm not sure how being at the same price qualifies as "at a higher price tag" (well, there is the American $0.05).

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up my order history. I purchased the Genesis morph pack during one of DAZ December sales. Even with the discount, the bundle still cost $20. The combined total for the the G2F and G2M head and body morph bundles comes out to $20 and change. I might only have had to buy the Genesis morphs once but they weren't any cheaper.
    And had you bought the Gen 1 morphs last week, using the 30% PC discount and one of several 40% on DAZ originals coupons from the PC festival (you must have earned more than one, if you got the Mega coupon) you'd have had it for $12.50. If you had done it on that day with the 44% on DAX originals special, it would have been $11.07. And I'm sure even better deals have come and gone. All you've managed to do is compare different sales on at different times almost a year apart. My statement still stands, either at full retail or to someone who is a master of finding the best sale prices, the splitting of Gen 2 into male and female doubles the cost of the morph bundles.
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,424
    edited December 1969

    Thinking Horndog said:
    I'll have to go out and buy all of the compatibility fixes, too -- and THAT's not right. I understand that they have to make a buck, but DAMN!

    Thinker

    You can convert M4 clothing by AutoFitting it to Genesis, saving as an asset, and AutoFitting that to G2M. You can apply M4 textures to Genesis, use Map Transfer to convert them to M5 (if you have Michael 5) or even Victoria 5 (if you have that) and then apply those to G2M (you'd need to save a .duf file with the textures applied to G2F for the V5 option to work).

  • im_a_thinker_d779e27214im_a_thinker_d779e27214 Posts: 18
    edited December 1969

    I have M5. I have V5. I have GenX -- and the Gen4 kits for it. Autofit works when it feels like it -- sort of. Map transfer is new isn't it? To be purchased separately? I've subscribed to the 'Use this and you can use all of your previous generation content!' hype before -- and burned hours and hours trying to make it happen. Right now, I'm trying to learn how to do my own content -- so I can make adjustments that work when something doesn't. At least I'll have a grip on why something just won't work...
    I bought into the supersuit -- and IT was a waste of money...
    I'll shut up. Nagging is a waste of time. I just think you need to get some traction out of one generation of figures before you move on to the next. What's next? And should I wait for it instead of shelling out for this bunch? Every time I get a new figure, I'm disappointed because it doesn't live up to the hype. Base figures come with nothing, so I buy morphs -- and they don't do a lot, either...
    Eh, like I said -- I'll shut up now...

    Thinker
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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    User #4887 said:
    icprncss said:
    The G2F and G2M head and body morph packs are not two $33 morph bundles. Buying during the intro sale with my PC coupon both times, I paid a little over $10 for the head and body morph bundles for both.
    In other words, they really are $33 bundles, on sale for a limited time, and with an additional discount provided by a coupon not available to all users. (OK, $32.95, but that $0.05 is a rediculous Americanism that I choose to ignore to make the discussion flow better).
    icprncss said:
    The only difference between Genesis/Gen 5 and G2F/M/Gen 6 is that instead of buying head and body morphs once (at a higher price tag), you buy the head and body morphs for each gender.

    Like the individual Gen 2 male and female bundles, the Gen 1 morph bundle is $33. I'm not sure how being at the same price qualifies as "at a higher price tag" (well, there is the American $0.05).

    Out of curiosity, I pulled up my order history. I purchased the Genesis morph pack during one of DAZ December sales. Even with the discount, the bundle still cost $20. The combined total for the the G2F and G2M head and body morph bundles comes out to $20 and change. I might only have had to buy the Genesis morphs once but they weren't any cheaper.

    And had you bought the Gen 1 morphs last week, using the 30% PC discount and one of several 40% on DAZ originals coupons from the PC festival (you must have earned more than one, if you got the Mega coupon) you'd have had it for $12.50. If you had done it on that day with the 44% on DAX originals special, it would have been $11.07. And I'm sure even better deals have come and gone. All you've managed to do is compare different sales on at different times almost a year apart.

    My statement still stands, either at full retail or to someone who is a master of finding the best sale prices, the splitting of Gen 2 into male and female doubles the cost of the morph bundles.

    Unfortunately, whether users like it or not in the end, the gender split is back. Next question is will there be an age split as well? Gen 4 had 3 basic mesh shapes. V4, M4 and K4. Right now G2 has 2 basic mesh shapes. G2F and G2M. When DAZ introduced the G2F, they made it clear from the start there would be a female and a male mesh. They have never stated there would be a child mesh.

  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926
    edited December 1969

    Well I've got my morphs and I'm happy now.

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  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:

    Unfortunately, whether users like it or not in the end, the gender split is back. Next question is will there be an age split as well? Gen 4 had 3 basic mesh shapes. V4, M4 and K4. Right now G2 has 2 basic mesh shapes. G2F and G2M. When DAZ introduced the G2F, they made it clear from the start there would be a female and a male mesh. They have never stated there would be a child mesh.

    ROTF! You just had to say that, didn't you?

    I can see it now.

    Genesis Three: The Power of Three!

  • im_a_thinker_d779e27214im_a_thinker_d779e27214 Posts: 18
    edited December 1969

    Baby V6! Watch her grow up! Make sure you get the morph packs for age 1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 12 1/2...

    (See? I do, too, have a sense of humor...)

    Thinker

  • MarcCCTxMarcCCTx Posts: 926
    edited November 2013

    Oh! forgot the base shape! I guess these guys look significantly different (but still any of them could be brothers) But still, nic job DAZ, thank you.

    You still drive me crazy sometimes though.:-)

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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    wiz said:
    icprncss said:

    Unfortunately, whether users like it or not in the end, the gender split is back. Next question is will there be an age split as well? Gen 4 had 3 basic mesh shapes. V4, M4 and K4. Right now G2 has 2 basic mesh shapes. G2F and G2M. When DAZ introduced the G2F, they made it clear from the start there would be a female and a male mesh. They have never stated there would be a child mesh.

    ROTF! You just had to say that, didn't you?

    I can see it now.

    Genesis Three: The Power of Three!

    While I know there are the growing up moprhs for both Genesis and G2F and there will probably be a set for the G2M at some point, if DAZ is going to take a step back to gender splitting then they also need to produce a child mesh. For some reason they won't even give Genesis users a K4 shape to go along with M4 and V4.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    ... You can apply M4 textures to Genesis, use Map Transfer to convert them to M5 (if you have Michael 5) or even Victoria 5 (if you have that) and then apply those to G2M (you'd need to save a .duf file with the textures applied to G2F for the V5 option to work).

    Any chance on a step by step howto? Please?

  • JessaiiJessaii Posts: 845
    edited December 1969

    Daikatana said:
    I never expected the morphs to be IN the pro bundle. After observing how they were separate releases in the past, I expected them to be a separate purchase. What I did NOT expect however is for the morphs to NOT be available FOR purchase and thereby make a large part of the character bundles unusable.

    The characters will work without the morph bundles just as an fyi, aside from the body dials the only part of Logan or Brandon's head morph that wont work without them is the pupil and iris controls. The entire head/face is custom we just add in the pupil/iris controls and neck sizing which is mostly personal preference.

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