OT Cats Musical CGI

not quite sure the “Melody and Micah” version is to my taste but others may differ cheeky

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601

    JaguarElla likes it but she isn’t known for her cultural tastes devil

  • ToyenToyen Posts: 1,917

    I don't get why this is getting so much hate, I love it. :)

  • Fae3DFae3D Posts: 2,641

    I can't wait to see it, as a kid I was crazy about the musical!  I have no idea why, but my sisters and I watched it almost every day for maybe 2 years?  We had memorized all the dance moves and songs and could perform the entire thing LOL!

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601

    I liked the humans in costumes dancing in the stage musical but CGI why would they make them humanoid?

    Athropomotphic cats have a place, I have one in my own videos but she acts humanoid dressed etc, I am not quite sure if these are animals or sentient beings.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Looks like it may be worth watching, if the lip synching is done right.

    (Content creators, notice where these cat tails are attached at the base of the spine, not the waist?)

  • Doc AcmeDoc Acme Posts: 1,153

    If nothing else, it's visually stunning and NOT yet another super hero flick!

     

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191

    (Content creators, notice where these cat tails are attached at the base of the spine, not the waist?)

    You mean at the literal tailbone?

  • Toyen said:

    I don't get why this is getting so much hate, I love it. :)

    Cats is considered almost universally to be the most simplistic musical by most theatre devotees. Its mass appeal and success upon original release made it a target of scorn. It was lampooned in other media including the Simpsons, i think. Its just low hanging fruit. I doubt most people have seen the original musical but since its culturally "normal" to consider it bad you get this reaction. I saw it on broadway when I was 11 and it was great. Even as a kid I understood that it wasnt deep narative; its pure spectacle and emotion. It sticks human feelings onto the banal lives of street cats with dance and song. I wish people could let their gaurd down and just take in the performance for what it is.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052
    Gordig said:

    (Content creators, notice where these cat tails are attached at the base of the spine, not the waist?)

    You mean at the literal tailbone?

    Of course. It may be easier for creators to place the tail high, but it never looks any good.

    Now back to Cats. Will you watch it too?

  • Is this the one where they fly off in the big UFO at the end ?

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,676
    edited July 2019
    Toyen said:

    I don't get why this is getting so much hate, I love it. :)

    Cats is considered almost universally to be the most simplistic musical by most theatre devotees. Its mass appeal and success upon original release made it a target of scorn. It was lampooned in other media including the Simpsons, i think. Its just low hanging fruit. I doubt most people have seen the original musical but since its culturally "normal" to consider it bad you get this reaction. I saw it on broadway when I was 11 and it was great. Even as a kid I understood that it wasnt deep narative; its pure spectacle and emotion. It sticks human feelings onto the banal lives of street cats with dance and song. I wish people could let their gaurd down and just take in the performance for what it is.

    Good comment!  Thank you.yes

    My partner and I lived in Washington, DC during the '80s & '90s.  When "Cats" came to the National Theater my brother and his family were visiting so we invited them and made a grand city night of it complete with limosine service and late dinner afterwards in the fancy traditional after-show restaurant around the corner (it was a treat for us as well).  The kids (pre-teens) loved it and we even had friends in the theater that gave the kids a back stage tour after the show.  They were most impressed by the giant boot prop.  During the performance I myself was most impressed by the lead male singer coming to the front of the stage, climbing a tall prop and singing solo directly to the audience a marvelous rendition of a known, sad, tragic, opera aria that had me in both tears and amazement at the quality of his voice.  I've since searched several recorded versions of the stage and movie performances of Cats and cannot find any of them that have the same moment in the performance.  indecision

    This new movie looks to have captured the spirit of the book and show, and to see Dame Judy Dench and "Gandolf" as the elder cats smacks of perfect casting.  I look forward to seeing this movie despite the fact that I usually run fast away from musical movies.indecision

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  • RawArtRawArt Posts: 5,961

    Saw the play about 30 odd years ago...and fell asleep half way through

    Not sure what I was expecting....but not that yawnfest :P

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    RawArt said:

    Saw the play about 30 odd years ago...and fell asleep half way through

    Not sure what I was expecting....but not that yawnfest :P

    The poems are better and actually what I grew up with

    I didn’t mind the play but unlike most here I cannot see the point of this CGI humanoid uncanny valley version

  • PetercatPetercat Posts: 2,321

    I'm waiting for someone to come out with a CGI remake of Starlight Express. That would be fun.
    Sort of "Thomas the Tank Engine on acid"!

    I have every Marklin Z Starlight set.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601

    They had the opportunity to do actual CGI realistic cats and didn’t take it instead chose ballerina anthropomorphs, I dread the Swan Lake CGI version cheeky

  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618

    Where are the rumpled, fluffy, wooly legwarmers?!  Those were such a defining element in many of the costumes.  And before somone counters they wouldn't have them here as they seem to have actual fur, characters like Old Gus the theatre cat and Mr. Mephistopheles are wearing "costumes" similar to the original stage version, so why not the iconic legwarmers?

    Okay, so legwarmers are my particular fashion fetish.  Is it any weirder than someone liking the nylons or heels?  Not to personally wear!  Oy!  Upon which to gaze.

    And, if were me, I would have had them at least possess triangular nose pads and the upper lip clefts.  The completely furred bodies and realistic feline ears with otherwise completely human faces does look a bit "off".  But I suspect some of the actors did not want their "glorious mugs" obscured, so they makers maintained the look among the entire cast.

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited July 2019

    Yes my feelings are the actors wanted to look like sexy attractive humans not furry animals 

    my anthro JaguarElla even has a feline face

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  • MimicMollyMimicMolly Posts: 2,212
    Shark Tale (2004) did a better job of having CGI animals that looked like their celebrity voice actors because the fish were stylized. If these cats were toonier with kitty noses and lips, this would've been much more pleasant to see. Now it's just more jarring than Sonic.
  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618

    Now, if they were to present something like this...

    ...a sleek human(oid) frame suitably alluring for the ballet type dance moves but with somewhat more feline extremities...and keeping the iconic legwarmers, well...ahem, uh, is it getting warm in here?

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601

    Yes yours is cute heart

    JaguaElla now wants me to make her legwarmers!

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited July 2019

    The singing in the beginning was terrible - sounded shrill and off-tune to my ears. As for the arthro stuff....not really my thing (tho I have enjoyed a musical from time to time in my life, but usually an old one).

    Laurie

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  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618
    AllenArt said:

    As for the arthro stuff.....

    Laurie

    Ooh1  There's a musical about insects as well?

    Sorry, it was just to tempting to ignore!

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,045

    Amusingly, I've seen some complaints that the tails in the trailer are too low and should start higher up the back. ;)

    Also, personally, I much prefer the cats in the trailer to the suggested improvements. Different strokes.

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601

    Well some certainly will find a childlike breastless naked Taylor Swift appealing devil

    not aiming that at you Will just to let know, I already said this on Facebook in general as what disturbs me the most.

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 4,033

    I think this will be a wonderful different version can't wait to see it ,now I'll go watch my DVD of Cats ....

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    I'm a fan of cats, but not sure how I feel about it.

  • Ryuu@AMcCFRyuu@AMcCF Posts: 703
    edited July 2019
    Redfern said:

    Now, if they were to present something like this...

    ...a sleek human(oid) frame suitably alluring for the ballet type dance moves but with somewhat more feline extremities...and keeping the iconic legwarmers, well...ahem, uh, is it getting warm in here?

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Well, they don't all have to wear the leg warmers, but yes, the Caitian body-type would be AWESOME to pull off! And soooo easily doable in CGI. Even so, from what I can see of the trailer, what they've done looks pretty damned great. Motion capture, tail movements, fur interactions all look fantastic!

     

    BTW, has anyone seen the trailers for the new CGI version of Lion King yet?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TavVZMewpY

    Now THAT'S the type of serious realism work I want to see be put into CGI projects!

     

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited July 2019
    Redfern said:
    AllenArt said:

    As for the arthro stuff.....

    Laurie

    Ooh1  There's a musical about insects as well?

    Sorry, it was just to tempting to ignore!

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Oops...anthro. LOL Sorry ;) I zigged instead of zagged ;)

    Laurie

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  • RedfernRedfern Posts: 1,618
    AllenArt said:
    Redfern said:
    AllenArt said:

    As for the arthro stuff.....

    Laurie

    Ooh1  There's a musical about insects as well?

    Sorry, it was just to tempting to ignore!

    Sincerely,

    Bill

    Oops...anthro. LOL Sorry ;) I zigged instead of zagged ;)

    Laurie

    Funny enough, I have an internet acquaintence (not sure I'd really care her a friend though I've met her in real life) who's the author of a "furry" web comic.  At one point she needed her lead character to attend a genre convention, one that paralleled "furry" conventions.  But how does one do that in a world of many different talking "funny animal" species?  She hit upon the "left turn" notion that such beings would host conventions focusing upon talking "funny insects".  And she called it "ArthroCon". short for arthropod convention, playing upon the name of a real world convention called "AnthroCon".  I thought it rather clever!

    Sincerely,

    Bill

  • outrider42outrider42 Posts: 3,679

    I would vote NO to Lion King style visuals. Sure, the trailer looks great, but that is a trailer, it is designed to. The problem becomes instantly apparent when the characters sing and dance. Hyper real animals don't emote like more toonish animals.

    I hope this link works. It is a twitter link, but that is the only place I could find this clip comparing this song between the two.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1149108647676522497

    Disney seems to be obsessed with realism so much that it costs them their artistic vision (you know, we Daz users might take note of that). This is not Planet Earth: Simba (though that might be cool itself if done right). There is no David Attenborough here.The Lion King is a piece of art, with musical numbers and drama throughout. It is not a place for this sort of hyper real animation.

    And neither is Cats.

    Cats goes in the other direction. Maybe a bit a bit too far, it is kind of weird that they have human noses, LOL, but then again, so do the actors in the play. The faces are actually in line with the Broadway musical which only uses makeup and makes no attempt to hide human features. The play doesn't hide human hands, either. The movie could have been a bit more fantastical in its costume design, since the play tends to be rather flamboyant in that area.

    That's always been part of the weird charm of the play. There is nothing else like it.

    The movie is weird looking, but I kind of like it, LOL. It certainly stands out. It is obviously not being hyper real, and it is certainly not doing Pixar. Like the play, there is nothing else like it. That may be good or bad depending on your view.

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