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Lol some people are not so great at hiding their sarcasm and criticism in their own saccharin filled comments.
Daz is not a full art program, it is merely the base, just rendering a scene without adding to it makes images that look "rendered" and nothing more. It takes more than a four minute render to make art, my computer can do multiple high quality renders at one time with both Daz and Poser running and I still add to them outside of the programs.
To be honest Daz does not have the best rendering engine out there, at least in my opinion. Many people add to their renders with another program, many love to use Photoshop some use Gimp, they use these programs to give their artwork more then the render could ever simply give.
And because of this old figures, new figures, who cares they can all be made to look outstanding with talented hands at the helm.
Look at the great artists here, they have mastered Poser and Daz, as well as Photoshop. They make diamonds out of the rough, and they all do not use your precious "new" figures alone.
Do not take the advice given by those who know what they are talking about, that is all on you, but it is such a shame that you will insult artists who could be such good teachers to help your artwork grow.
And just because, I am stating that my comment is not being made to criticize you, even though being an artist you are going to be hit with it and you need to know how to deal with it and grow from it.
Most of us artists know that constructive criticism is there to help us make our artwork better not to make us cry.
Once again your new is better idea is merely a brick wall and nothing more. The time will come when your "new" becomes a thing of the past and some newer artists will come in and try to demean what you are as an artist because you are old school and you will understand just what you are truly doing by commenting as crudely as you are now. Moving forward with these new figures is just the same as trying out the ones from the past, you are branching out and not pushing yourself into a corner with just one.
Do not insult users who love the older products with demeaning comments, it is only making things worse at a time when many are still healing from the chaos the Genesis figure caused just a few years ago.
Also nobody here cried wolf even though the comments you made were insulting to many, yet one comment comes your way and you break down and cry victim. Make comments like you have and you need to expect other opinions to come your way, and you need to respect them. Not call them attacks when they are not. The comments were merely trying to get through to you even though it is obvious that you are oblivious to anything beyond your own ideals.
DireWrath2000, you must be a really wise person. You added another smart comment to this thread. See, every year produces new artists with their own ideas. It would be boring if everybody felt the same, but one has to bear in mind that everything changes (remember that famous song: "The times, they are changing" by Simon and Garfunkel?). What now is brand new (put anything you want here, Dawn, Gen2F, Gen2M) will soon be vintage, then retro, then old, then ancient.
For me, art is about two main things: expressing yourself (but without hurting anyone) and learning from each other. A single person cannot master every trade, Jacks of All Trades simply don't exist. So the variety of renders made with different figures is stunning and it would be a loss if everybody used the same things!
OT: Wasn't that Bob Dylan?
I have to admire the quality of propaganda you have going here comparing nothing but art models that 'predates Victoria 1' here on DAZ3d to Rembrandt and Da Vinci or something as valuable as a classic car. ROFLOL Thanks for the giggle. If what you guys had was so great then everybody would be buying it instead of running of to the competition.
Here is something you can do... Go to Facebook and go post a favorable review for DAZ3D. I did. Then go tell other people what a great company this is and get others to make art as brilliant as yours... but when your done, go read the things that other people have posted about DAZ3d and this forum and then take it to heart what your peers have to say.
I've spoken my peace. Nobody said we have to agree but the one thing I believe we all want to see is DAZ3d to continue to make great products available at good prices. I'd like to see better labeling and old products updated if they are viable to the consumer market.
Thank you DAZ3d and forum moderators for your patience and allowing me to speak my peace. May you all have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Years.
of course Snow, you could try posting your art over at CGtalk at CG society for feedback! ;-P
the question about older and newer figures would be totaly irrelevent there as to the quality of one's "Artwork"
http://www.3delight.com/en/index.php?page=projects
3Delight is an industry standard used in movies such as Harry Potter and Ted just to name two examples.
I'm perfectly fine with you doing whatever art you want. The HD revolution is here already. You can join it or you can stay where your at and continue to do whatever you feel is right. What you do is not my business but I hope you don't think I wanted to insult you just because we have different styles and genres. What I do and want is not your business either. Take care.
All of you have amazing potential to do truly remarkable work... go do it and enjoy your Christmas day (It's over here in Australia).
I post to 20,000 people on my facebook page, thats good enough for me. What other people think of my art or me is none of my business. I'm not posting for approval ratings. I'm trying to tell the people who make a product that I enjoy using, what I'd like to see in the future and I am trying to share by means of discussion ways to improve my own experience so that I can continue to get the type of products I want to see.
I think Wendy that too often the people in this forum are looking at this like its some type of competition rather then individual artist expressing a need for products they can use and what would make getting those products more convenient.
The bottom line is that I'm trying to help the PA's that are reading this know what consumers want to buy. With the 4 or 5 highly vocal people that have expressed other views... hopefully people will take their opinions into account and cater to their needs too.
To me, it's all win, win... not a competition to be judged in but a dialog to improve every bodies experience. To be honest, the only reason I like posting pictures here is hopefully to put a smile on your face.
Thanks for the ideas .. Merry Christmas Wendy and have a brilliant New Years.
We already know. We have our sales that shows what trending for us; unfortunately your suggestions, which are based on your limited experience and not sales aren't what most consumers really want, if I'm to be honest with you.
I think Dunning or was it Kruger wrote about this once.
impressive, I only have 13 000 youtube subscribers :long:
I apologize, I did not mean to offend nor did I wish to insult anyone. I was mearely stating my experience with Daz Studio 3/3Delight and my single-core computer rendering millennium environment. I will leave this thread before I cause more harm or controversy.
Bye
I apologize, I did not mean to offend nor did I wish to insult anyone. I was mearely stating my experience with Daz Studio 3/3Delight and my single-core computer rendering millennium environment. I will leave this thread before I cause more harm or controversy.
Bye
I don't think you have anything at all to apologize about and you've done nothing wrong. If anything I apologize to you and hope you feel free to come back and speak your mind.
Besides... I don't think these comments are directed at you. I think... and I'm just guessing since the poster didn't say who he was speaking to but the negative comments appear to have been directed at me.
In any case... I hope you have a Merry Christmas and continue on creating whatever makes you happy.
PS if you like the millennium environment, I strongly recommend Yosemite packs by Dimension theory for you:
http://www.daz3d.com/hdr-prosets-yosemite-pack-one
http://www.daz3d.com/hdr-prosets-yosemite-pack-two
Pretty cheap if you're a platinum club member too. They are much better looking and a lot more realistic too. I used it to make this picture for example.
I was wondering why you have these random images after all your posts.You do know there is a personal galley you can post to instead of spamming the forums, right?
I was wondering why you have these random images after all your posts.You do know there is a personal galley you can post to instead of spamming the forums, right?
Excellent thought. Thank you for sharing your good opinion. If I'm going to respond to people anyways then why shouldn't I post whatever I want? Do you think you have the right to tell other people what to say or what content they post on a message board open to the public in the course of a civil discussion?
I'm not telling you what you can say or do. I'm having a public discussion on a topic I started, if you want to help, help. You don't like my pics, ignore me, the thread and have a Merry Christmas.
OT: Wasn't that Bob Dylan?I think so, but the times, they are a'changin'...
I apologize, I did not mean to offend nor did I wish to insult anyone. I was mearely stating my experience with Daz Studio 3/3Delight and my single-core computer rendering millennium environment. I will leave this thread before I cause more harm or controversy.
Bye
starionwolf
You have done no harm in my opinion, I was commenting on other posts not yours. ;) I do apologize for the misunderstanding. Your post was not demeaning believe me, just an honest comment about your experience with the program and I respect that and thank you for an honest response.
By the way Snowpheonix I am not a he, at least the last time I checked. :)
cecilia.robinson...... no I'm not a wise person, just someone who would rather see everyone just get along and enjoy what we are all capable of doing with each and every figure out there because that is what we are all here for isn't it? ;) Thank you for the very kind comment.
You seem wonderful Cecilia, such a beautiful name too. To me its this simple... don't let anybody tell you "No" or what you can't do or try and define anything about you if they don't also have the authority to say, "Yes" You are entitled to be wonderful and you are the superstar of your life.
Merry Christmas and Happy Rendering to you
Just a little trivia. The song was written by Bob Dylan and did appear on the album of the same name but Simon and Garfunkel also recorded it for their first album titled Wednesday Morning 3am.
Just a little trivia. The song was written by Bob Dylan and did appear on the album of the same name but Simon and Garfunkel also recorded it for their first album titled Wednesday Morning 3am.
I wondered if they had, and I have heard that album but not for a very long time, so thanks for nudging me to go seeking the Simon and Garfunkel version. :)
Just a little trivia. The song was written by Bob Dylan and did appear on the album of the same name but Simon and Garfunkel also recorded it for their first album titled Wednesday Morning 3am.
That's right. You must know they better than I do, even though I listen to them most of my time :).
cecilia.robinson...... no I'm not a wise person, just someone who would rather see everyone just get along and enjoy what we are all capable of doing with each and every figure out there because that is what we are all here for isn't it? ;) Thank you for the very kind comment.
You seem wonderful Cecilia, such a beautiful name too. To me its this simple... don't let anybody tell you "No" or what you can't do or try and define anything about you if they don't also have the authority to say, "Yes" You are entitled to be wonderful and you are the superstar of your life.
Merry Christmas and Happy Rendering to you
Well, I'm not sure what are you referring to as for my humble person, thank you though. Still, I bet people would not agree with you, I just try to be honest and fair. Say something nice when you can, but also gently try to point something that can be corrected. Still, so many people don't like that. I'm grateful to you both for your comments, but really, I'm just normal, nothing above, I guess...
FSMCDesigns, I too wonder why there are so many pictures. They look a bit random to me, but maybe they're trying to depict some Fast Grab items? I don't know, so I won't dwell upon that, although I must say I'm a bit worried for people with slower connection, such pictures tend to load for a long time. Well, if the moderators don't react, who am I to talk about that?
On a general note, I feel we're getting a little bit off the topic. Weren't we here to discuss Fast Grab?
Currently in Fast Grab, as I post this, are Silas M4, Rena V4, and Garden Escape Arbor Gate. I suspect somebody could make a nice romantic render with these three items, plus some clothes for the two people...
I decided to use older figures, just for the fun of it - I don't think they look bad. :)
Rendered in Poserpro2014
Change of Shift
Credits:
Jessi1Improved - Lyrra Madril
Bootie - Deecey
Akaste Hair - 3Dream, Mairy
Michael2 Boris - Capsces
Marius - Mec4D
Sci-Fi Suit1 Anton Kisiel
Sci-Fi Suit1 Mappak2 - Silverleif Studios
Wet Hair - Valea
ApolloMaximus - Anton
Clothes - pdxjims
Art_Kane - Artcollaborations
Briefcase - Windjammer
Miki2
Light Armored Nano Suit - Xurge3D
AditiHair - Propschick
EZSkin (on the humans) - Snarlygribbly
CamBot, FloaterBot and Cable - Stonemason
Glitch and KudieBug - The AntFarm
Metal Snake - Serrge
Infiltrator - Elele
rBot - Rez
Droid - Anton Kisiel
Hover Droid - Stephen Ray
EZMetals (on Hover Droid and Droid) - Snarlygribbly
Suprastation - Kibarreto (vbarreto)
(Glass: Seachange - Cyllan)
I don't think it would be all that big of a deal if you put a specifically marked Icon...
Please add a "icon" on the product page to indicate "if the product will be show in the Smart Content" too.
I don't think it would be all that big of a deal if you put a specifically marked Icon...
Please add a "icon" on the product page to indicate "if the product will be show in the Smart Content" too.
That sounds marvellous. I like Smart Content stuff, but many great products don't have metadata. Plus I'm too busy to make the additional files myself every time I get something new.
An "icon indicator " for "DIM ready" will be very helpful too.