Leisa 8

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  • MescalinoMescalino Posts: 436
    edited November 2019

    Can someone please do an Alexandra mix with leisa (70-30 50-50 30-70)

    Im curious what this would do to the gene pool.

     

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  • Does anyone know the lovely dress used in the lunchlady pose set?

    https://www.daz3d.com/trending-poses-for-leisa-8-and-genesis-8-female

  • scorpio said:

    That looks like it thanks @scorpio

  • xyer0xyer0 Posts: 6,062

    I like her, although she looks like Bridget 8 when she's wearing a hair from Bridget's Pro Bundle, and like Ellithia when she wears a hair from Ellithia's bundle. I'm hoping we get a male of her ilk to round out Christian/Vladimir/Edward.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited November 2019

    Her  mouth looks very wooden to me, like she can barely smile and like her lips are pasted there from another figure.  There is oddnes with this generations faces in the mouth region and the one sized fits all expressions look odd on characters with different facial structure,

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  • StorypilotStorypilot Posts: 1,676

    Her face reminds me strongly of Evan Rachel Wood.

     

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,175

    the add ons are very limited ..mostly characters ... non HD characters. I must have 100 G8 female chacters now ... i might use 5

    Discounts... can that banner savings coupon be used more than once? You can get 20% off GC ... and then 20% off Bundle? 

  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100

    I was thinking that Leisa was one of the more credible mature characters, and Allesandra kept that theme going (Gabi is a bit too WTF for me) useful for a CEO, scientist, librarian, etc. but then I saw one little item that just blew everything for me.

    Height: 6' 0" (182.8 cm)

    Seriously? That's 99.92 percentile. Less than 1 in 1000. That won't look realistic in a car, at a desk, going through a doorway, etc. Kitchen counters are at the wrong height for her. ( 50% for the US is 5'3.6"). Oh, and the standard weight for a 6' woman is 188 pounds. 

    Teen Josie 8 is 5'5", which is 75th percentile for adult women. Teen Raven 8 is 5'6". Fortunately, it appears that all the DAZ teens are 18-19, so they've basically stopped growing.

    DAZ heights are out of control. Next generation won't even fit in cars, will bump their heads in doorways,  I'm picturing Victoria 9 coming in at 6'4". What do we use these characters for, aside from the obvious NVITWS?

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449

    Height and proportions are easily adjustable with the right morph packages.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,676
    edited November 2019
    wiz said:
    DAZ heights are out of control.

    Well, for technical reasons you do want to have the male and female bases the same size - which is 180cm for pretty much every generation I can recall, (or 5' 11" for those who think in those terms), which isn't unusual for a male. It impacts things like auto-fit and other cross-model transfer.

    They do then seem to have got stuck in that rut, however, building models off that as if that should be the average for both men and women, so a woman that's supposed to be slightly taller than average has to start getting very very tall in real world terms.

    Next generation won't even fit in cars

    On that front, I don't believe the figures have been getting significantly taller over time. Lining up all the versions of Victoria I have (4 through to 8), the only one that isn't about the 180cm average of the base figures is V5, who's about 10cm/4" shorter than her other generations.

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  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085

    Her  mouth looks very wooden to me, like she can barely smile and like her lips are pasted there from another figure.  There is oddnes with this generations faces in the mouth region and the one sized fits all expressions look odd on characters with different facial structure,

    It's the added expression bones.  They don't work like real facial muscles do and as a result can do things that a real face can't, so you can get some poses that badly trigger the uncanny valley response.  This is especially true in the mouth area, where I keep seeing poses/expressions that bend the upper lip in ways a real human can't possibly move unless someone's literally pushing it with their fingers... Ironically, I think Genesis 3's mouth shapes were far more natural due to the expressions being more dependent on morphs.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    daveso said:

     can that banner savings coupon be used more than once? You can get 20% off GC ... and then 20% off Bundle? 

    I was wondering this same question, as my store credit is gettnig low but haven't made up my mind about Leisa yet.  I've just bought so much stuff in the last few months and her bundle is so underwhelming... 

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    jestmart said:

    Height and proportions are easily adjustable with the right morph packages.

    True, but it's a pain in the rear to have to keep adjusting the scale so a figure will look right in a set sold through the same vendor.  I suspect that a good part of it is that most of Genesis base figres, especially the G8s, are all a bit heavier set than what most of the PA's and customer base would consider "ideal" forms, and the easiest way to bring the base to those kind of proportions is to stretch it vertically. 

  • HatBHatB Posts: 77
    Cybersox said:
    daveso said:

     can that banner savings coupon be used more than once? You can get 20% off GC ... and then 20% off Bundle? 

    I was wondering this same question, as my store credit is gettnig low but haven't made up my mind about Leisa yet.  I've just bought so much stuff in the last few months and her bundle is so underwhelming... 

    I was able to use it that way...1st bought the GC then later the ProBUndle plus.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    HatB said:
    Cybersox said:
    daveso said:

     can that banner savings coupon be used more than once? You can get 20% off GC ... and then 20% off Bundle? 

    I was wondering this same question, as my store credit is gettnig low but haven't made up my mind about Leisa yet.  I've just bought so much stuff in the last few months and her bundle is so underwhelming... 

    I was able to use it that way...1st bought the GC then later the ProBUndle plus.

    Awesome!  Thanks, that's good to know.. 

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172

    Yay. Another female. *sigh*

    Laurie

  • Leonides02Leonides02 Posts: 1,379
    edited November 2019
    Jessaii said:
    jakiblue said:

    Does anyone recognise that big red hair she is wearing on the front shop page, in the banner up top? Wearing a black dress with big red hair. 

     

    edit: oh she's the 12th thumbnail promo in the Leisa 8 product itself. 

    Side Swept Rose Hair, freebie at Rendo by zoro_d :) 

    Zoro makes gorgeous hair. I don't know why he doesn't sell them!!! (and make more smiley)

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288
    edited November 2019

    Actually,  she puts me in mind of Penny 8. Possibly contracted to the same studio...

    Attractive base model, yes. Seriously dislike most of the clothes, although I might get some use from the pants of both of the pants sets. Not impressed with the hair. Not that it's bad hair, but I've got plenty of hair. Some pretty add-on characters, but the bundle itself seems fairly pointless.

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  • DaventakiDaventaki Posts: 1,624
    edited November 2019

    I like her as an older female.  This is Leisa textures with the HD add on and Sweater outfit, I removed the belt because I honestly dont like it plus it was polking through the sweater in several places. Matilda hair. 

    Render is not the greatest, it is rendered on my laptop (not the greatest) Postwork is only resizing with a slight sharping then I made the background.

    Leisa8.jpg
    701 x 1024 - 553K
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  • wizwiz Posts: 1,100
    wiz said:
    DAZ heights are out of control.

    Well, for technical reasons you do want to have the male and female bases the same size

    What reasons would those be? Explain at any level you like, I'll keep up.

    - which is 180cm for pretty much every generation I can recall, (or 5' 11" for those who think in those terms), which isn't unusual for a male. It impacts things like auto-fit and other cross-model transfer.

    They do then seem to have got stuck in that rut, however, building models off that as if that should be the average for both men and women, so a woman that's supposed to be slightly taller than average has to start getting very very tall in real world terms.

    That's a side effect of having the majority of your women being either model types or warrior types. The fashion industry considered 5'8" the minimum for a fashion model, and that's 95th percentile for women.

    Next generation won't even fit in cars

    On that front, I don't believe the figures have been getting significantly taller over time. Lining up all the versions of Victoria I have (4 through to 8), the only one that isn't about the 180cm average of the base figures is V5, who's about 10cm/4" shorter than her other generations.

    Victoria is just the "first base" figure.

  • Why is Gabi listed in the pro bundle and as an add-on?

  • namtar3dnamtar3d Posts: 251

    I really love this character. I hope to get it soon, but probably not the pro bundle. 

  • Just another completely uninspired character from Daz bundled with bland, and completey uninteresting hair and clothes.

    Must be that day of the week.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,316
    edited November 2019

    I used to be 5'8" until osteoporosis took affect. I am now 5'5.5". Height is mutable. But where I was tall when I was a young woman; today, I found that it is common for young women coming out of college or simply walking through a Target, to be easily 6' or taller. I have no idea if it is healthier diets, improved fitness and lifestyles/sports, or what. But so often I see even women in their 30s/40s who are taller. I honestly don't think demographic scales have caught up with today's realities. Yes, there are smaller women. I love to see it when the shorter characters are released. And I hate that I have to find something to climb to get things from the top shelves in the kitchen! And I buy the morph sets as well, too bad I can't use them on my spine.

    Mary

    I have her and some of the character add-ons. Just need the time to play. My thanks to those who worked on everything.

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  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,676
    wiz said:

    What reasons would those be? Explain at any level you like, I'll keep up.

    I did mention them; if you want to be able to rig the same items to fit both figures (or similarly, use the same poses/prop presets), it is significantly more practical to do that if the figures are the same size rather than needing to add in some scaling constant. The base Genesis figures themselves are designed more for content creation than to be used in the scene.

    The program gains no processing or calculation advantage from the shaping being baked into the base figure - nearly every figure will be morphed, scaled and posed anyway, so the only difference is the exact values the computer is multiplying or adding. There's no technical reason the program works better with the size difference baked in but, as with so many things, adding in scaling factors would complicate things.

    The number of times I've messed up a calculation because I've left out some conversion factor or done the conversion the wrong way around is beyond counting. Including that kind of thing in the auto-fit calculations would just add another headache for the programmers and more opportunity for bugs and errors. When you have the opportunity where the models' dimensions are essentially arbitrary* to create a system where your conversion factor is 1, you absolutely take it.

    * They're just data on a computer, so you can't go up and measure them with an actual tape measure. Any decision about what 1 unit represents is arbitrary -  and not at all consistent... DS decides that 1 unit is 1 centimetre, but many programs decide that one unit is metre, others use inches... and there's one I know of that uses 1/16ths of a foot, as opposed to any unit in common use in the real world.

  • melaniemelanie Posts: 795

    Regarding Leisa's height, Brooke Shields is six feet tall as are most super models. They can still fit through doorways and sit at desks. This isn't really unusual. And men who are six feet tall don't have problems using everyday things. She may be taller than most women, but there are a lot of women who are six feet tall and even taller.

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,618
    JOdel said:

    Actually,  she puts me in mind of Penny 8.

    I was thinking the same thing.

    I'm picking her up because I like more mature characters & am always lobbying for them. I wish they would do a mature South Asian female.

    I also wish the deal came with some freebies.
  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,191

    I don't really get all the talk of Leisa being a "mature" character. She doesn't look any older than the majority of other female characters to me. Hell, I don't think she even looks older than some of the characters who were explicitly marketed as teens.

  • kimhkimh Posts: 389
    edited November 2019

    I really like Alessi https://www.daz3d.com/alessi-for-leisa-8, especially her makeup and tattoos

     

     

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