Looking for G8M pants with unzip fly morph

Hi, all! I'm looking for a pair of pants, preferably slacks, for Genesis 8 male that can be unzipped without undoing the top button. I've found a few that can be completely opened, but not one with just the fly. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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  • That is an interesting need. I'm curious to see if anyone can suggest something that fits the bill.

  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 867

    Unfortunately, nothing comes to mind, though, if you have any pants with an open morph, you could always select the part of the mesh you want to affect and move it with a dformer (or dforce animated simulation with a weight map that excludes the button). As long as the mesh allows for unzipping, it shouldn't be too hard.

  • ButchButch Posts: 799

    Never seen long pants that can do that.  Only clothing, that I know of, that has an open-able fly are these boxers https://www.daz3d.com/simply-casual-boxers-and-shirts-for-genesis-2-male-s

  • JeanZ by the 3DWizard ( https://www.daz3d.com/jeanz-for-genesis-3/  )for G3M has belt undone, pull down and unzip morphs.  I realize that you are asking for G8M pants, but DAZ Studio will allow you to use these on G8M using the automagic script (or whatever it is) when you fit to G8M.  

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    he's got flies in his pants?

    i remember one for m4 on the rosty.  cant remember what it was called tho.  coging brain, but it wont come out

  • JeanZ by the 3DWizard ( https://www.daz3d.com/jeanz-for-genesis-3/  )for G3M has belt undone, pull down and unzip morphs.  I realize that you are asking for G8M pants, but DAZ Studio will allow you to use these on G8M using the automagic script (or whatever it is) when you fit to G8M.  

     

    Those look promising, thank you. Autofit would obliterate the custom morphs, but it's easy to convert pants between G3 and G8. I'll keep this thread open for a bit in case some thinks of something that's like dress slacks, but I'll probably grab those jeanz when my budget resets in any case. Butch, those are for G2, alas. Too far back. Mystarra: I have an old set for M3, I think it was actually a freebie back in the day. I had definitely been considering either trying to convert them or just posing them independently on top of g8.
  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,401
    edited November 2019

    JeanZ by the 3DWizard ( https://www.daz3d.com/jeanz-for-genesis-3/  )for G3M has belt undone, pull down and unzip morphs.  I realize that you are asking for G8M pants, but DAZ Studio will allow you to use these on G8M using the automagic script (or whatever it is) when you fit to G8M.  

     

     

    Those look promising, thank you. Autofit would obliterate the custom morphs, but it's easy to convert pants between G3 and G8. I'll keep this thread open for a bit in case some thinks of something that's like dress slacks, but I'll probably grab those jeanz when my budget resets in any case. Butch, those are for G2, alas. Too far back. Mystarra: I have an old set for M3, I think it was actually a freebie back in the day. I had definitely been considering either trying to convert them or just posing them independently on top of g8.

    Autofit WILL NOT obliterate the custom morphs, what made you think it would? All the morphs are retained. It is only the custom bones that are lost, and I doubt a pair of jeans will have any of those.

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  • Ah, right; I was thinking custom bones not custom morphs. My bad.
  • Just an update, in the unlikely event anyone else reads this trying to solve the same problem: Jeanz does *not* have the kind of open morph I'm looking for. It's a great product and I don't regret the purchase (grabbed it during Black Friday) but the "unzip" morphs all undo the button as well. That's fine for a pic of someone taking their pants off (or putting them on) but isn't what I'm trying to do. So I'm still looking for a pair of pants for G8M with a morph to unzip the fly without undoing the button. As one might when standing at a urinal, for example. If anyone comes across such a thing, please let me know.
  • I don’t know if this will work or not for your needs. I don’t have it yet so I can’t say if it is unbuttoned and unzipped, but it lists 3 different unzip morphs. It was on sale for $2 yesterday with double loyalty discount. Today it is $3.49 with discount. May be even cheaper in a few days with some other sales promotion.

    https://www.daz3d.com/just-a-man-for-genesis-3-males

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited December 2019

    When I had access to ZBrush there was an easy way of moving one part of a garment without moving the surrounding mesh at the same time. I think it was called Topological Move. I have not figured a way to do that in Blender but I don't think there is an equivalent brush. So what I am saying is that opening a fly (or a pocket or a neck collar) would be easy in ZBrush but I have not been very successful in Blender. Maybe Hex has something similar?

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  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,702

    In blender using a soft selection could be useful like the move topological is. Not exactly the same, but useful for that sort of situation.

  • The JeanZ do not have the specific morph described above were you unzip without undoing the top button.  I am in the process of converting the JeanZ to G8 (female and male).  While the auto-fit works pretty well is does't work to my satisfaction.  I will see about adding this type of morph.

    Cheers!

  • The JeanZ do not have the specific morph described above were you unzip without undoing the top button.  I am in the process of converting the JeanZ to G8 (female and male).  While the auto-fit works pretty well is does't work to my satisfaction.  I will see about adding this type of morph.

    Cheers!

    That would be awesome - but don't let it become too much work for you. I'm sure it's a fairly niche need and whilst you'd certainly get one sale from it (mine) I dunno if you'd get many more.
  • rames44rames44 Posts: 332

    You could do this on any trousers with decent mesh resolution by using the geometry editor to remove a vertical line of polygons down the fly, then use deformers to shift the vertices on either side.

  • XYZ - examine your zipper  :D

    flysopen01a.jpg
    1000 x 1000 - 478K
  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    edited December 2019

    The JeanZ do not have the specific morph described above were you unzip without undoing the top button.  I am in the process of converting the JeanZ to G8 (female and male).  While the auto-fit works pretty well is does't work to my satisfaction.  I will see about adding this type of morph.

    Cheers!

    With or without dForce?

    BTW - your JeanZ are always a must buy for me.

    Post edited by marble on
  • I am adding dForce and RealFit to the G8 versions.  However everything will be there so they look great without using dForce, but the dForce will be there if you want it.

    Thanks for the support!

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    I am adding dForce and RealFit to the G8 versions.  However everything will be there so they look great without using dForce, but the dForce will be there if you want it.

    Thanks for the support!

    Thanks for your update.

    One thing I always noticed about the morphs - and this is not exclusive to your products by any means - is that when morphs are used in combination, they tend to become extreme. So a simple fold down of the front waist area becomes a huge flap of cloth reaching the knees or beyond. Have you found a way of restricting this mesh stretching or is that just an inevitable consequence? I had similar problems with the Hongyu bikini strings and again with some ribbon hair morphs used in combination (hair mesh becomes freakishly expanded).

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    Dzheng at rendo has lots of morphs in his outfits for men. Perhaps one of those might work.

  • Dzheng at rendo has lots of morphs in his outfits for men. Perhaps one of those might work.

    Thanks for the suggestion. I'll have a look.
  • the3dwizardthe3dwizard Posts: 495
    edited December 2019
    marble said:

     

    Thanks for your update.

    One thing I always noticed about the morphs - and this is not exclusive to your products by any means - is that when morphs are used in combination, they tend to become extreme. So a simple fold down of the front waist area becomes a huge flap of cloth reaching the knees or beyond. Have you found a way of restricting this mesh stretching or is that just an inevitable consequence? I had similar problems with the Hongyu bikini strings and again with some ribbon hair morphs used in combination (hair mesh becomes freakishly expanded).

    Morphs are simple in that they move a vertex in a liner direction.  The results are cumulative so mixing them can produce strange results.  

    Hi, all! I'm looking for a pair of pants, preferably slacks, for Genesis 8 male that can be unzipped without undoing the top button. I've found a few that can be completely opened, but not one with just the fly. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    I feel like I kinda hi-jacked your thread.  So to make up for it here is a morph for you to try on the G3M JeanZ.  Hope it works for you.

    Cheers!

     

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    the3dwizard-JeanZG3M-FlysOpenMorph.zip
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    Post edited by the3dwizard on
  • Well, I thought I was getting some awesome traffic by having a respected PA posting in my thread. But I'll certainly see if I can make that morph work. Tak sa market!
  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500
    marble said:

     

    Thanks for your update.

    One thing I always noticed about the morphs - and this is not exclusive to your products by any means - is that when morphs are used in combination, they tend to become extreme. So a simple fold down of the front waist area becomes a huge flap of cloth reaching the knees or beyond. Have you found a way of restricting this mesh stretching or is that just an inevitable consequence? I had similar problems with the Hongyu bikini strings and again with some ribbon hair morphs used in combination (hair mesh becomes freakishly expanded).

    Morphs are simple in that they move a vertex in a liner direction.  The results are cumulative so mixing them can produce strange results.  

    Hi, all! I'm looking for a pair of pants, preferably slacks, for Genesis 8 male that can be unzipped without undoing the top button. I've found a few that can be completely opened, but not one with just the fly. Does anyone have any suggestions?

    I feel like I kinda hi-jacked your thread.  So to make up for it here is a morph for you to try on the G3M JeanZ.  Hope it works for you.

    Cheers!

     

    Indeed, mixing morphs does do that. I have quite a few Nirvy dForce garments and he/she (?) mixes dForce and morphs quite successfully. That's why I asked earlier about whether you are including dForce this time around.

  • Mystarra said:

    he's got flies in his pants?

    i remember one for m4 on the rosty.  cant remember what it was called tho.  coging brain, but it wont come out

    Any chance of finding it on the install manager?

     

  • JeanZ by the 3DWizard ( https://www.daz3d.com/jeanz-for-genesis-3/  )for G3M has belt undone, pull down and unzip morphs.  I realize that you are asking for G8M pants, but DAZ Studio will allow you to use these on G8M using the automagic script (or whatever it is) when you fit to G8M.  

    OK, I know what I am going to get myself for Christmas.

     

     

     

  • MinamMinam Posts: 55
    edited July 2020

    On ROS look up...
    DZ G8M DPantZ 1 by dzheng 
    Taking It Off For Greybro's G8 Jeans and Tee Male Edition by Disciple3d

    How to add D-Force to Clothes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6s8EJ-fNGo


    Daz 3D with D-Force
    https://www.daz3d.com/everyday-2-for-genesis-8-males

    Convert Female Clothes... 
    https://www.daz3d.com/rssy-cross-gender-clothes-genesis-8


     

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • Um.  Thank you?  Your post is somewhat lacking in actual words, but I choose to beleive you're trying to be helpful, so thank you for the impulse.

    Dzeng's store had already been linked.  I didn't know about the Disciple3D set, but that's fairly clearly exactly not what I'm looking for.  It's the same type of movement as the Jeanz set: morphs that let one simulate taking one's trousers off.  What I was looking for was a morph that let one simulate only undoing the fly, without undoing the button - as if one were stepping up to a urinal, or behind a tree, and preparing to to pump ship.

    From the looks of the images, the Aeon Soul set, which I also didn't know about, is the same.

    The3dwizard was kind enough to attempt to implement my request for Jeanz, but alas the mesh's origins as women's pants meant their attempt was unsuccessful - the zipper doesn't come down far enough.  (This is true of actual women's jeans as well; there was one time when I had to borrow a pear from my then-wife, and I discovered I couldn't get my tackle out without taking the pants off.  And not because they were too small, we were almost exactly the same size and she didn't wear hip-huggers.)

    As for the links to the dForce tutorial and the clothes converter, I'm not sure what you're suggesting there, but on the face of it they seem entirely irrelevant.

    Still, I'd more-or-less forgotten about Dzeng.  And while at the time I made this post I wasn't willing to blow 15$ (after conversion - I'm Canadian) on experimenting (especially as based onthe promos those pants also don't have the kind of morph I need), right now they're on sale, so it's a good moment to be reminded of them.

  • This one unzips with dforce.

    dForce Denim Shorts And Sexy Top for Genesis 8 Female by Silver_Snake

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dforce-denim-shorts-and-sexy-top-for-genesis-8-female/138096

  • This one unzips with dforce.

    dForce Denim Shorts And Sexy Top for Genesis 8 Female by Silver_Snake

    https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/dforce-denim-shorts-and-sexy-top-for-genesis-8-female/138096

    And again I have to say "Thank you for trying to help, but that is exactly the wrong thing."

    Once more: my search is for a pair of men's trousers that have a morph to unzip [i]only the fly[/i].  The waistband button stays done up, the pants stay around his waist.  Imagine you've just walked up to a urinal in a public washroom, and need to "unlimber your weapon."  You don't take your pants off, you just undo the zipper.

    Still, I don't mean to sound ungrateful for your helpful impulse.  Almost a year later, and I'm still making do (not that I need this often!) with a mesh made for Michael 3, so anything that might further this search is welcome.

    Stay safe!

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