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M6/M5 pants, make autofit over gens? - Masculinizer

MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
edited March 2014 in The Commons

can autofit treat the geograft as part of the body?

was going for 'the tent' effect for a scene, i thought it would be as easy as posing the gens and the pants would adjust over it.

i tried changing the collide against to the gens. upping the collide iterations.
i'll turn on the cms if that's what it takes.

crikey

iz a lot of pants to have to manually morph. :sick:


help!

thanks :)

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited March 2014

    there are bulge morphs for that otherwise use dynamic cloth, might need to grow the gens in a drape
    start off with M4 shape too and use M4 cloth not fitted, it will slip down a bit to give your lowrider look too.

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    edited December 1969

    It's been tried, with an almost complete lack of success. If you don't have one of the hip morphs, the best option is to use a D-former on the clothes and fiddle with the settings until it looks about right.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited December 1969

    oh I had M3 very happy in the V4 dynamic nightie dancing

  • Coon RaCoon Ra Posts: 200
    edited December 1969

    If pants are supposed, why do you geograft the genitalia to the body? The bulge morphs do the job. It's like spending hours to apply a huge set of fine details morphs to the body covering it later with,say, armor or a rain coat or like that.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    i don't see bulge morphs on pants. do you mean on m5/m6?


    is there anything in the ds4 pro tools?


    i can't be the only one struggling with empty pants syndrome.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    Misty Whisky said:
    i don't see bulge morphs on pants. do you mean on m5/m6?


    is there anything in the ds4 pro tools?


    i can't be the only one struggling with empty pants syndrome.

    M5 and M6 are coming with bulge morphs, as far as I remember (sorry, I got the pro bundles, so I am not 100% sure whether the bulge morph is in there).

    Go to your paramters tab and search for bulge.

    There are free ones too:
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/53770/gallery/21/
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/61648/browse/21/DAZ-Studio/UPDATED-Bulge-Cameltoe-for-Genesis

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    Something to keep in mind with male genitals and pants - you need to 'pose' the gens to be like they will be inside a pair of underwear in trousers.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited March 2014

    TimG said:
    Something to keep in mind with male genitals and pants - you need to 'pose' the gens to be like they will be inside a pair of underwear in trousers.

    boxers and/or briefs.

    boxers was the original idea. >.<

    wanted some naturale fitting. :down:

    bulge morph looks like he's laying an egg. :-/ unless i'm doing it wrong. :lol:


    so close, yet so far

    my Leon of the night and day is crying.


    and yet a hair prop will bulge over the ears. not fair.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited March 2014

    TimG said:
    Something to keep in mind with male genitals and pants - you need to 'pose' the gens to be like they will be inside a pair of underwear in trousers.

    somehow I think Misty would enjoy doing that :lol: ;-P
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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    strike a pose :lol:

    maybe i should ask support how to make autofollow, follow ...

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    Even with boxers, gens are soft tissue (most of the time) and will be effected by the fit of the pants.

    What I would suggest, for the most realistic look, is a series of deformers applied to the groin area. Either that, or shaping the gens to look somewhat displaced by the shape of the trouser material and using dynamic pants.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    Ehm ... or buy something like Mec4d.com newest wrestling pants for G2M/M6?
    I just saw the promos and thought of you ...

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    thanks.

    goes to look for it.

    i was struggling last night with the M6 casual pants. then i fought with the pants from Ashe for Gn. My poor Leon, sitting under the gobo lights, ...

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    TimG said:
    Even with boxers, gens are soft tissue (most of the time) and will be effected by the fit of the pants.

    What I would suggest, for the most realistic look, is a series of deformers applied to the groin area. Either that, or shaping the gens to look somewhat displaced by the shape of the trouser material and using dynamic pants.


    he needs more morphs
    or wait for ds to have soft body physics.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited March 2014

    I have used a spring modifier on the geografted bits in iClone, jiggles quite well
    soft body would make it too flaccid

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    :) submitted to Support. i hope this isn't the silliest support request they ever seen

    #164523 possible to make Autofollow follow M5/M6 geograft poses? include in collision?

    my idea was to pose M5 and/or M6 gens, and then autofollow would fit his pants over the geograft?

    Is that possible?

    i see the autofollow make hair props bulge over ears,
    was wondering if that could work for the male geografts?

    i look at the collision list, 'genesis' is in the list, but could you make a 'genesis with gens' in the list?

    Thanks.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited December 1969

    I am sure they have heard everything
    I would like autofollow for tails but prob not enough geometry for that or at least tails to be able to take on the uv mapping of the pants so you can apply the same texture

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    to show what i mean, these are the kind of M5/M6 pinups i'm trying to acheive with his wardrobe.

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    wendy♥catz said:
    I am sure they have heard everything
    I would like autofollow for tails but prob not enough geometry for that or at least tails to be able to take on the uv mapping of the pants so you can apply the same texture

    you could maybe crop a swatch from pants texture, then make it a tiling jpg on the tail ?

    or use something like silkessence / fabricator and apply to both.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    Misty Whisky said:
    to show what i mean, these are the kind of M5/M6 pinups i'm trying to acheive with his wardrobe.

    :swoon:

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    have you checked out Streetwear's Jeans for Genesis? They are modeled with real life details and look really good.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    this is Optitex's free dynamic pants for V4 (Daz Studio dynamic), colliding with Genesis and the GM gens.

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  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    That does not look normal or comfortable for that matter. In a few places it would be classed as indecent...

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,644
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:
    That does not look normal or comfortable for that matter. In a few places it would be classed as indecent...

    Yep. Completely indecent. Give him my number, will you?

    I've got a product to add gen bulges to pants. It includes a morph to fit pants over the existing gens. It's going to be distorting to a lot of geometries, though.

    http://www.runtimedna.com/Clothing-Masculinizer-G1G2M.html

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,366
    edited December 1969

    :shrug: junk gets mushed by pants. I reduced the size of those gens, too, so the bulge wouldn't look too large.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,601
    edited December 1969

    no worse than I have seen pedalling bicycles in lycra

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited December 1969

    I will be satisfied if the men's pants fit properly, actually have a fly, and some wrinkles and pockets. =-)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited December 1969

    SickleYield said:
    icprncss said:
    That does not look normal or comfortable for that matter. In a few places it would be classed as indecent...

    Yep. Completely indecent. Give him my number, will you?

    I've got a product to add gen bulges to pants. It includes a morph to fit pants over the existing gens. It's going to be distorting to a lot of geometries, though.

    http://www.runtimedna.com/Clothing-Masculinizer-G1G2M.html


    :cheese:

    thanks.

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited March 2014

    tried using the built in gn bulges. better than nothing, his pants aren't doing the tenting thing :-/

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited March 2014

    Misty Whisky said:
    tried using the built in gn bulges. better than nothing, his pants aren't doing the tenting thing :-/
    Umm... We are happy for that too. Tenting is a render we so would like users to not post on the Forums. They have forums out there for that type of render. Keep it in the TOS folks....
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