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Alternative to J.Cade's Painter's Lights?

tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896
edited April 2020 in The Commons

Hi everyone,

whenever I see a render with beautiful artistic lights in the gallery it seems it was made with J.Cade's Painter's Lights which are not in the store anymore unfortunately. Since I missed out on buying them (just returned to DAZ this year after an absence of about 12 years - my, and they kept my store credit of about 8 dollars safe for me for all these years!) - is there any alternative out there today that would give comparable results? Also, those of you who actually own Painter's lights: What is the special thing about them, what do they have that other light sets don't? I'm really curious!

Thanks for reading, stay safe!

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  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,205
    edited May 2020

    all of the following is just my personal opinion, and should be taken with a shaker of salt. 

    jcade's painter's lights are light rigs--frameworks of multiple lights--designed to echo several classical styles of portrait lighting. 

    everything's adjustable.  but the individual lights within each rig are placed to illuminate specific zones of a figure from specific angles at specific intensities. 

    it's a high-concept light set and it's beautifully done.  jcade obviously did a lot of research and put a lot of love and time into the project. 

    the product predates iray, but that doesn't slow it down a bit. 

    the only downside of the product i've found:  it doesn't always get along with some iray scene FX that rely on planes that fake invisibility or transparency by having their opacity channel set to an extremely low value (0.0000001, etc).  sometimes it kind of uninvisibles them.

    there are a couple of rimlight light rigs available in the store that can be tweaked and adjusted and added to to give vaguely--and i do mean vaguely--similar results, and there are some nice sets of portrait lights and portrait studios even floating around, and some iray HDRI sets that are specifically designed for portraiture.  but i have yet to see a product that comes close to duplicating painter's lights' functionality and versatility.  

    i wish the lights were still available somewhere!  everyone who works in daz studio should have a chance to add them to their toolbox.

    j

     

     

     

     

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Er... My recollection is that Painter's Lights were one of the first sets of lights *for* Iray. 

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,748
    edited April 2020

    Yeah, I'm kicking myself for not picking up J.Cade's Painters Lights when they were available. They were on my wish list but they got removed from the store before I could purchase them. As for alternatives, I've heard a lot of good things about BOSS Pro Light Set. I don't own it myself but have heard quite a few people recommend it. I can also recommend (shameless plug incoming lol) my own light set - not just because I made it but because I use it for almost all my renders. 

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  • L'AdairL'Adair Posts: 9,479
    edited April 2020
    JOdel said:

    Er... My recollection is that Painter's Lights were one of the first sets of lights *for* Iray. 

    I have the set; You are correct. Here's a link to the Read Me.

    And here's a relevant excerpt:

    Painter's Lights (Core)

    • You can find new icons for loading this product in the following DAZ Studio Folders:

      • “Light Presets:Painter's Lights:Environments”
      • “Light Presets:Painter's Lights:Lights”

    • You can find new icons for this product in the following DAZ Studio Categories:

      • “Lights:Iray:Other”
      • “Render-Settings:Iray”

    Additional Details

    • The Environment presets were created work with the “Sun Dial Set” that is available in the “Default Lights and Shaders for DAZ Studio 4.8+” which is part of the DAZ Studio 4.8+ Program.

     I agree, it's a shame the product is no longer available. I'm glad I got it when I did.

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  • lulamfadalulamfada Posts: 72

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320

    I have Painter's Lights, BOSS Studio Portrait Lights,  all the Ultra Genesis light sets, several of Colm Jackson's light sets (namely the Cinema FX & IRay Studio 2.0) and nothing comes close to J.Cade's Painter's Lights for being light weight & easy to use. I also like the results best although that can be deemded personal preference.

    As I never even did a render in DAZ Studio before iRay came about I know that J.Cade's lights came out explicitly for iRay after I started rendering. She used to post renders she made as she was building the set in the forums, quite nice renders. They came out sometime close to 16 December 2016 because I bought them soon as I could afford them after release.

    It's the sort of basic utility that you'd think would be included with DAZ Studio Starter Essentials. Personally I think DAZ 3D should contact her and offer to buy them out from her and then give them away free in the DS Starter Essentials or something like that.

     

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited May 2020

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

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  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    I'm the same way, I guess.  I've bought light sets, but find them either constraining or else so flexible that I might as well make my own, with HDRIs and volumetric lights being the exceptions.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,783
    lulamfada said:

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

    I don't have the painters lights, but I do have the boss lights and I find them confusing as heck. While I can get light with them, I to this day don't understand what they are doing or if I doing it right, LOL. Luckily there are many other light sets to play with.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    FSMCDesigns said:
    lulamfada said:

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

    I don't have the painters lights, but I do have the boss lights and I find them confusing as heck. While I can get light with them, I to this day don't understand what they are doing or if I doing it right, LOL. Luckily there are many other light sets to play with.

    Mesh lights are the devil in my book, lol. I'd much rather use spots with geometry. I can't figure out how the h eee double-hockkey-sticks people control mesh lights with any sort of precision. I'll reserve mesh lighting to environmental emissives only. 

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    melissastjames said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    lulamfada said:

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

    I don't have the painters lights, but I do have the boss lights and I find them confusing as heck. While I can get light with them, I to this day don't understand what they are doing or if I doing it right, LOL. Luckily there are many other light sets to play with.

    Mesh lights are the devil in my book, lol. I'd much rather use spots with geometry. I can't figure out how the h eee double-hockkey-sticks people control mesh lights with any sort of precision. I'll reserve mesh lighting to environmental emissives only. 

    Yeah, but sometimes you wanna do Sun-Sky, and emissives are your only choice. frown

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    Sevrin said:
    melissastjames said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    lulamfada said:

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

    I don't have the painters lights, but I do have the boss lights and I find them confusing as heck. While I can get light with them, I to this day don't understand what they are doing or if I doing it right, LOL. Luckily there are many other light sets to play with.

    Mesh lights are the devil in my book, lol. I'd much rather use spots with geometry. I can't figure out how the h eee double-hockkey-sticks people control mesh lights with any sort of precision. I'll reserve mesh lighting to environmental emissives only. 

    Yeah, but sometimes you wanna do Sun-Sky, and emissives are your only choice. frown

    Nope, not at all. Instead of Sun-Sky, use Dome and Scene...and then remove the environment map. Boom. Sun-Sky with the benefit of using scene lights. 

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484
    melissastjames said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    lulamfada said:

    I have Painter's Lights and Boss Lights, and my experience is the Boss Lights are much more flexible and easier to use. The Painter's Lights conflict with hair if they're at the wrong angle and I've never had particularly good results with them. The Boss Lights are much more flexible and can create very similar effects to the Painter Lights without the problems I've had with the Painter's Lights.

    I don't have the painters lights, but I do have the boss lights and I find them confusing as heck. While I can get light with them, I to this day don't understand what they are doing or if I doing it right, LOL. Luckily there are many other light sets to play with.

    Mesh lights are the devil in my book, lol. I'd much rather use spots with geometry. I can't figure out how the h eee double-hockkey-sticks people control mesh lights with any sort of precision. I'll reserve mesh lighting to environmental emissives only. 

    I'm totally the other way around, I love mesh lights and find spot lights fiddly to use.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896
    nonesuch00 said:

    I have Painter's Lights, BOSS Studio Portrait Lights,  all the Ultra Genesis light sets, several of Colm Jackson's light sets (namely the Cinema FX & IRay Studio 2.0) and nothing comes close to J.Cade's Painter's Lights for being light weight & easy to use. I also like the results best although that can be deemded personal preference.

    As I never even did a render in DAZ Studio before iRay came about I know that J.Cade's lights came out explicitly for iRay after I started rendering. She used to post renders she made as she was building the set in the forums, quite nice renders. They came out sometime close to 16 December 2016 because I bought them soon as I could afford them after release.

    It's the sort of basic utility that you'd think would be included with DAZ Studio Starter Essentials. Personally I think DAZ 3D should contact her and offer to buy them out from her and then give them away free in the DS Starter Essentials or something like that.

     

    I think so too, I tried to contact her myself via ShareCG, but I don‘t think she is actively using her account over there anymore. Got no response. Should I open a ticket to suggest the idea to DAZ, to try and buy the light set I mean? Maybe someone else knows how to contact her directly?

    Anyway, thanks everyone for the great suggestions and hints on other lighting sets! When I read the first batch of posts, I was all set up and ready to buy those Boss lights asap, but now I‘m not sure anymore. They do sound complicated, and I‘m really no good at all with lights ... That‘s why something like the Painter‘s Lights would be so nice to have ...

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,484
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

    Have you tried these

    https://www.daz3d.com/tenebroso-lighting

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    nonesuch00 said:

    I have Painter's Lights, BOSS Studio Portrait Lights,  all the Ultra Genesis light sets, several of Colm Jackson's light sets (namely the Cinema FX & IRay Studio 2.0) and nothing comes close to J.Cade's Painter's Lights for being light weight & easy to use. I also like the results best although that can be deemded personal preference.

    As I never even did a render in DAZ Studio before iRay came about I know that J.Cade's lights came out explicitly for iRay after I started rendering. She used to post renders she made as she was building the set in the forums, quite nice renders. They came out sometime close to 16 December 2016 because I bought them soon as I could afford them after release.

    It's the sort of basic utility that you'd think would be included with DAZ Studio Starter Essentials. Personally I think DAZ 3D should contact her and offer to buy them out from her and then give them away free in the DS Starter Essentials or something like that.

     

    I think so too, I tried to contact her myself via ShareCG, but I don‘t think she is actively using her account over there anymore. Got no response. Should I open a ticket to suggest the idea to DAZ, to try and buy the light set I mean? Maybe someone else knows how to contact her directly?

    Anyway, thanks everyone for the great suggestions and hints on other lighting sets! When I read the first batch of posts, I was all set up and ready to buy those Boss lights asap, but now I‘m not sure anymore. They do sound complicated, and I‘m really no good at all with lights ... That‘s why something like the Painter‘s Lights would be so nice to have ...

    Yes, I would open a ticket & suggest it. And even if she isn't interested I'm willing to bet that one could search the internet or bookshelf and find a professional photographer's manual on how to set up artificial photography lighting in the manner of old master painters. Heck, that may of been what J.Cade did herself. 

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,078

    @nonesuch00 " I'm willing to bet that one could search the internet or bookshelf and find a professional photographer's manual on how to set up artificial photography lighting in the manner of old master painters"

    You will have lots of hits, Rembrandt lighting in particular is a pretty standard portrait lighting setup.

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited May 2020
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

    You don't have to use the "sci-fi" looking HDRI's at all. The portrait lighting rigs are completely separate and are definitely traditional, painterly, lights that you can use with any background. I've attached a screenshot of the light rigs as they are shown in the content library - 

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896
    scorpio said:
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

    Have you tried these

    https://www.daz3d.com/tenebroso-lighting

    Thanks scorpio, I‘ll put these on my wishlist, they seem really nice! Bit too dark though for general portraiture I reckon.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896
    melissastjames said:
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

    You don't have to use the "sci-fi" looking HDRI's at all. The portrait lighting rigs are completely separate and are definitely traditional, painterly, lights that you can use with any background. I've attached a screenshot of the light rigs as they are shown in the content library - 

    Thanks for the attachment, I see! These also go on my wishlist then! I’ll still contact DAZ and see if anything can be done about the original light set. Because sadly I don‘t really feel up to trying and create one like that myself, no matter how many tips and techniques I might find online ... oh, but I guess I‘ll also put it on the PA suggested products lists!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,320
    fastbike1 said:

    @nonesuch00 " I'm willing to bet that one could search the internet or bookshelf and find a professional photographer's manual on how to set up artificial photography lighting in the manner of old master painters"

    You will have lots of hits, Rembrandt lighting in particular is a pretty standard portrait lighting setup.

    Then just take the hits that aren't advertised hits & have all the well known old masters I guess.

  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,205
    JOdel said:

    Er... My recollection is that Painter's Lights were one of the first sets of lights *for* Iray. 

    thanks for the correction. 

    j

  • plasma_ringplasma_ring Posts: 1,025
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:
    melissastjames said:

    If you want pre-set light rigs that mimic traditional lighting techniques, I'd recommend checking out these by PTF - https://www.daz3d.com/ptf-neon-splash-lighting-suite

    That being said, auto-rigs will still require some adjustment to work with your individual scene. Personally, I stick with HDRI lighting and then set up my own spots. 

    Thanks for the suggestion, is this set a bit like the fast production HDRI set, https://www.daz3d.com/fast-production-lights-for-iray? I mean in that it provides different tones and brightness options and so forth? For me, it is a bit too modern overall I think, I‘m looking for traditional, well, painterly, lights. 
    - I shall keep in mind what you said about setting up spots in HDRI lit scenes, I‘ve not tried that yet. Like I said, I am really so terrible with lights!

    You don't have to use the "sci-fi" looking HDRI's at all. The portrait lighting rigs are completely separate and are definitely traditional, painterly, lights that you can use with any background. I've attached a screenshot of the light rigs as they are shown in the content library - 

    Thanks for the attachment, I see! These also go on my wishlist then! I’ll still contact DAZ and see if anything can be done about the original light set. Because sadly I don‘t really feel up to trying and create one like that myself, no matter how many tips and techniques I might find online ... oh, but I guess I‘ll also put it on the PA suggested products lists!

    I own both Painter's Lights and the PTF neon set and I think they're a good alternative as well.

    An artist named Fabiana has a set called Theory of Light (sold elsewhere) that's largely replaced Painter's Lights for me. It has similar painted color backgrounds and lighting rigs that can be easily posed to achieve painterly light and shadow distribution. 

    I've also found Elianeck's Dramatic Light and Easy Play Light sets useful for creating the kind of environment a chiaroscuro or Rembrandt light setup works well in. 

  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,288

    Fabiana's sttuff is used *a lot* in promos.

  • marblemarble Posts: 7,500

    If it is allowed, I'd mention some products from the other store: search for Paper Tiger. There are some nice sets there plus the ever-useful X-Ray camera which is included with some of the sets. That is a camera with Iray section planes attached makinging it possible to use HDR lights with interiors. Otherwise the sets have a great variety of moods and dome rotation presets and usually at an agreeable price.

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,896

    Thanks again for the opinions and suggestions everyone, this is really helpful! I found Fabiana‘s lights, they look stunning and indeed very painterly, so to speak. I saw two sets actually - Theory of Light Energy Flow and ToL Zen Moods - I guess the Energy Flow one is the ‚original‘ one, but they both look gorgeous. But man, these are expensive! Will have to wait a while until I can get them.

    I also looked at Paper Tiger‘s sets but got kind of confused there because there were just so many of them! I wouldn‘t know which one to choose really. They all look stunning though.

    Probably I should start out with the Neon Splash set here at DAZ next time it‘s on sale. I did send a suggestion to DAZ anyway to try and buy the original Painter‘s Lights, and also opened a thread in the PA product suggestion forum. If there are any more suggestions on how to create a painterly render atmosphere, please keep them coming, they‘re much appreciated!

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    tsroemi_de848f77ba said:

    Thanks again for the opinions and suggestions everyone, this is really helpful! I found Fabiana‘s lights, they look stunning and indeed very painterly, so to speak. I saw two sets actually - Theory of Light Energy Flow and ToL Zen Moods - I guess the Energy Flow one is the ‚original‘ one, but they both look gorgeous. But man, these are expensive! Will have to wait a while until I can get them.

    I also looked at Paper Tiger‘s sets but got kind of confused there because there were just so many of them! I wouldn‘t know which one to choose really. They all look stunning though.

    Probably I should start out with the Neon Splash set here at DAZ next time it‘s on sale. I did send a suggestion to DAZ anyway to try and buy the original Painter‘s Lights, and also opened a thread in the PA product suggestion forum. If there are any more suggestions on how to create a painterly render atmosphere, please keep them coming, they‘re much appreciated!

    I get asked constantly about what lighting I use in my portraits and nine times out of ten, my answer is Fabiana's Energy Flow. 

  • j cadej cade Posts: 2,310

    Heyyyy! So Caronavirus is good for getting back into home based hobbies


    So the lightset was, as someone showed, based on 2 parts: the lights and then the environments. The environments are where a lot of the characteristic look is from IMO, and its actually dead simple. They were primarily 2x2pixel images of flat colors (mostly very neutral tones) creating a wash of ambent light, in much the same way ambient lights worked back in the ole 3delight days (technically some of them actually used sunsky but with the sun basically turned off again creating a neutral wash of light)

    The light sets mostly emulated 3-point lighting wich you can find lots af articles about online (with the environment serving the function of the fill light) I don't have any books on lighting, I've just stared at a looooot of paintings. Main idea: two big photometric lights one infront of the figure one behind both higher than the figures head and angled downward. The other detail was I added in a small light at roughly eye hight with very low strength as it could generally be counted on to reflect in the figure's eye

    For the record, I dont actually use my light presets all that much anymore (mainly I swear that multiple smaller photometric lights tend to clear up faster than single big ones) the environments I still use pretty frequently though, and you can 100% make them for yourself in ms paint,

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,748
    edited May 2020
    j cade said:

    Heyyyy! So Caronavirus is good for getting back into home based hobbies


    So the lightset was, as someone showed, based on 2 parts: the lights and then the environments. The environments are where a lot of the characteristic look is from IMO, and its actually dead simple. They were primarily 2x2pixel images of flat colors (mostly very neutral tones) creating a wash of ambent light, in much the same way ambient lights worked back in the ole 3delight days (technically some of them actually used sunsky but with the sun basically turned off again creating a neutral wash of light)

    The light sets mostly emulated 3-point lighting wich you can find lots af articles about online (with the environment serving the function of the fill light) I don't have any books on lighting, I've just stared at a looooot of paintings. Main idea: two big photometric lights one infront of the figure one behind both higher than the figures head and angled downward. The other detail was I added in a small light at roughly eye hight with very low strength as it could generally be counted on to reflect in the figure's eye

    For the record, I dont actually use my light presets all that much anymore (mainly I swear that multiple smaller photometric lights tend to clear up faster than single big ones) the environments I still use pretty frequently though, and you can 100% make them for yourself in ms paint,

    Oh my goodnesss - you're here! I'm so glad to see you back (I hope you're back!). You were so active in the forums when I first stumbled upon Daz3D and I really missed seeing your posts. I really hope we get to see you around again. :)

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