Who are the most realistic Genesis 8 characters in 2020?

nicstt

FP said:

nicstt said:

FP said:

nicstt said:

FP said:

Do people really stuggle with what people mean when they say realistic?

How many definitions of realism can apply to a human figure?

"representing familiar things in a way that is accurate or true to life"

If you struggle with the concept of life and what things should look like when you look at them then is a more specific question really needed?

I want to know what X figure will look like under overcast conditions, in shade under a palm tree at 1 pm facing west in mid October at Panama City beach vs the same character in New York 20 stories up on a helicopter pad at 2 am looking directly at a half moon.  It either looks/reacts  "real" under multiple conditions or it doesn't.   

So you're saying everyone means the same thing?

I prefer to know what they mean, than make assumptions.

I prefer believable to realistic.

If i can accept the image im looking at, believe in the story it is telling, then all is well.

 

If I asked you, what dog looks the most realistic, Snoopy or Lassie? Bolt or Benji? I would expect a normal person to choose the real dog. I'm struggling to understand what your concept of looks real is. If I said, I would like to see what a realistic version of Black Widow or Thor looks like, I would hope you would point me to a non-cartoon version of the Avengers movie. When I walk into a store and see a plant that looks real, I say to myself that looks real, I wonder if it's a good imitation or if it is a real plant. I don't drop into a philosophical study if I am in the Matrix.

If you can't tell, then it looks believable, which is my point; you found it to be believable before you questioned if it was real... Or not. The believable was a subconscious acceptance of the item, where as the 'is it real?' is a conscious thing.

After that, you're mearly satisfying your curiosity, which can be a good thing, but the 'plant' has already served its purpose.

So the purpose of asking for a 3D character the looks real would be to have a 3D character that when looked at looks real subconsciously and then attempt to find out it it was real with conscious effort.   

Seems like a long drawn out question when I would think most people would just be ok with, "Can you link me to a realistic character?"

I would hope that if a random person asked you to recommend a good Mexican Restaurant you wouldnt get into a extended debate on what real mexican food is.  You'd just use common sense to skip Taco Bell and direct them to a Mexican Grill. If I were to drive by a guy and ask them where a good BBQ place in the area is and they started off by asking me what my definition of BBQ was, I'd wonder if they had mental issues.

Of course I would want context of what they meant by good; it is subjective.

Ever been to a 'restaurant' others recommended as good, and thought it was poor?

Fauvist

If there were any 3D figures that were indistinguishable from real humans it would put all actors and models out of business,

To make any 3D model more life-like, use the parameter dials and make everything about the model asymetrical.        One side of the face is very different from the other side of the face.  One eye is higher than the other.  The nose isn't perfectly straight, the mouth isn't perfectly level.  The hairline is not uniform.  When you pose the figure, move the slider for EVERY joint, and - eventhough pose sets are wonderful, real humans seldom conform to poses.  Always put some expression on the face. And don't have the eyes stareing straight ahead.  Introduce randomness to the poses and expressions - small elements that don't make any logical sense - people don't sit with their backs ramrod straight or their heads perfectly level.  Avoid making the figure look like a plastic mannequin.

j cade

nicstt said:

FP said:

nicstt said:

FP said:

nicstt said:

FP said:

Do people really stuggle with what people mean when they say realistic?

How many definitions of realism can apply to a human figure?

"representing familiar things in a way that is accurate or true to life"

If you struggle with the concept of life and what things should look like when you look at them then is a more specific question really needed?

I want to know what X figure will look like under overcast conditions, in shade under a palm tree at 1 pm facing west in mid October at Panama City beach vs the same character in New York 20 stories up on a helicopter pad at 2 am looking directly at a half moon.  It either looks/reacts  "real" under multiple conditions or it doesn't.   

So you're saying everyone means the same thing?

I prefer to know what they mean, than make assumptions.

I prefer believable to realistic.

If i can accept the image im looking at, believe in the story it is telling, then all is well.

 

If I asked you, what dog looks the most realistic, Snoopy or Lassie? Bolt or Benji? I would expect a normal person to choose the real dog. I'm struggling to understand what your concept of looks real is. If I said, I would like to see what a realistic version of Black Widow or Thor looks like, I would hope you would point me to a non-cartoon version of the Avengers movie. When I walk into a store and see a plant that looks real, I say to myself that looks real, I wonder if it's a good imitation or if it is a real plant. I don't drop into a philosophical study if I am in the Matrix.

If you can't tell, then it looks believable, which is my point; you found it to be believable before you questioned if it was real... Or not. The believable was a subconscious acceptance of the item, where as the 'is it real?' is a conscious thing.

After that, you're mearly satisfying your curiosity, which can be a good thing, but the 'plant' has already served its purpose.

So the purpose of asking for a 3D character the looks real would be to have a 3D character that when looked at looks real subconsciously and then attempt to find out it it was real with conscious effort.   

Seems like a long drawn out question when I would think most people would just be ok with, "Can you link me to a realistic character?"

I would hope that if a random person asked you to recommend a good Mexican Restaurant you wouldnt get into a extended debate on what real mexican food is.  You'd just use common sense to skip Taco Bell and direct them to a Mexican Grill. If I were to drive by a guy and ask them where a good BBQ place in the area is and they started off by asking me what my definition of BBQ was, I'd wonder if they had mental issues.

Of course I would want context of what they meant by good; it is subjective.

Ever been to a 'restaurant' others recommended as good, and thought it was poor?

+1 if someone asks for "a mexican restaurant" I'm probably at minimum asking what their price range is.  both a fancy sit down restaurant and a taco truck might be mexican, and both might be good. But if someone is looking for one and I suggest the other, they're probably not going to be happy.