So, AW's Chloe - Genesis 3 only?

SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
edited August 2020 in The Commons

Well, AW certainly goes her own way, doesn't she.  How long has it been since there was a figure for G3 only?   Weren't AW's other characters Growing-Up based?   This one doesn't show it as a requirement.

Anyway, the character Chloe looks great, with really nice skin, and the promos are lovely.   Here's to many more.  But maybe G8 next time?

Another mystery: What is the adult character in the last promo?   One doesn't often see non-included characters in character promos.   Is that Chloe grown up?

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  • She's sitting in my cart, but after yesterday's fun and games I scarcely dare buy anything.  A couple of questions though, should AW be reading this thread: the fifth promo pic shows Chloe as a teen but there's no teen shown in the description (looks very nice too), and Chloe Mix?  I'm not sure what that is.

  • LinwellyLinwelly Posts: 5,987

    the teen version  is listed:

    What's Included and Features

    • Chloe for Genesis 3 Female
      • Chloe Preschool
      • Chloe Child
      • Chloe Preteen
      • Chloe Tween
      • Chloe MIX
  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    edited August 2020
    Linwelly said:

    the teen version  is listed:

    What's Included and Features

    • Chloe for Genesis 3 Female
      • Chloe Preschool
      • Chloe Child
      • Chloe Preteen
      • Chloe Tween
      • Chloe MIX

    Is MIX what the teenagers call themselves now?  

    Also, I don't know what the difference is between "preteen" and "tween".  I tried looking it up and it seems they're the same thing.

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,904

    I think she's really lovely, too, reminds me of Aster! Am being a cautious like you all are, though, because of the weird 'CART-wheels' the day before. So Angelwings, if you are reading this, we really love your figure and will eventually buy it, just a little patience please ... ;-)

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012
    Sevrin said:

    Well, AW certainly goes her own way, doesn't she.  How long has it been since there was a figure for G3 only?   Weren't AW's other characters Growing-Up based?   This one doesn't show it as a requirement.

    Anyway, the character Chloe looks great, with really nice skin, and the promos are lovely.   Here's to many more.  But maybe G8 next time?

    Another mystery: What is the adult character in the last promo?   One doesn't often see non-included characters in character promos.   Is that Chloe grown up?

    Angel Wings did comment on this in her announcement thread that she was becoming a PA. Chloe was always originally modelled on G3, she did try to add or move Chloe to G8 but couldn't get this particular character to fit her vision on G8 so stuck with G3 rather than comprising that original vision to move to G8. Tbh I still use G3 more than G8 so that didn't even make me think twice, also .. Angel Wings characters in the Daz store so yay!!
  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,983
    edited August 2020

    And the install method is DAZ Central only. She doesn't show up in DIM- Install Manager. Mind you so are some of the other releases today so I'm hoping it's an oversight and will be fixed.

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  • Hmm, her last characters on Rendo have been G8F. So G3F only is something a need to consider. With all the G8-stuff I have plus all the ->G8F-converters I dunno if I should invest in another G3F only.

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 567
    Sevrin said:

    Well, AW certainly goes her own way, doesn't she.  How long has it been since there was a figure for G3 only?   Weren't AW's other characters Growing-Up based?   This one doesn't show it as a requirement.

    Anyway, the character Chloe looks great, with really nice skin, and the promos are lovely.   Here's to many more.  But maybe G8 next time?

    Another mystery: What is the adult character in the last promo?   One doesn't often see non-included characters in character promos.   Is that Chloe grown up?

    I'm worried she may not be able to handle that horse!

  • KA1KA1 Posts: 1,012
    Haruchai said:

    And the install method is DAZ Central only. She doesn't show up in DIM- Install Manager. Mind you so are some of the other releases today so I'm hoping it's an oversight and will be fixed.

    Hmmm last time it happened they said it was an oversight as they aren't (so say) making anything Daz Central exclusive, I'm certainly going to wait though as if it hasn't got either DIM or it least manual then it's a hard (but sad) pass.
  • Haruchai said:

    And the install method is DAZ Central only. She doesn't show up in DIM- Install Manager. Mind you so are some of the other releases today so I'm hoping it's an oversight and will be fixed.

    Chloe doesn't appear in Daz Central either, I reinstalled it after trying the original beta, I hope they make Chloe available through DIM and manually... This is a disaster, never mind Covid etc we've been waiting for Chloe for MONTHS !
    Steve.

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    Everytime that Daz Central only issue has popped up, it has indicated a total download mess for all methods. Alert the mods in the Sales problem thread and better, submit a Customer Service report. 

    Chloe is the only character I don't have from her offerings at the other store, so I am considering her now. Realistic kids are hard to come by.

  • ariocharioch Posts: 172
    Sevrin said:

    Well, AW certainly goes her own way, doesn't she.  How long has it been since there was a figure for G3 only?   Weren't AW's other characters Growing-Up based?   This one doesn't show it as a requirement.

    Anyway, the character Chloe looks great, with really nice skin, and the promos are lovely.   Here's to many more.  But maybe G8 next time?

    Another mystery: What is the adult character in the last promo?   One doesn't often see non-included characters in character promos.   Is that Chloe grown up?

    She looks a lot like AW's last released character @ Rendo, Natasha. https://web.archive.org/web/20200411173439/https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vendor/Angel_Wings

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Sevrin said:
    Linwelly said:

    the teen version  is listed:

    What's Included and Features

    • Chloe for Genesis 3 Female
      • Chloe Preschool
      • Chloe Child
      • Chloe Preteen
      • Chloe Tween
      • Chloe MIX

    Is MIX what the teenagers call themselves now?  

    Also, I don't know what the difference is between "preteen" and "tween".  I tried looking it up and it seems they're the same thing.

    tween is a weird mix 10-13 ish, I believe.

    I'm pretty damn confused 'cause at 13 I was happy to call myself a teen - you know, the clues in the age: thirTEEN.

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977
    I love Angelwings characters and this one is a beauty. I do prefer G8 so I'm a little on the fence.
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,317

    We do have the ability to move characters from G3 to G8. She may be worth it. 

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,676
    KA1 said:
    Chloe was always originally modelled on G3, she did try to add or move Chloe to G8 but couldn't get this particular character to fit her vision on G8 so stuck with G3 rather than comprising that original vision to move to G8.

    Oh. That's... disappointing.

    These days I would only still deliberately buy a G3 character if it were some weird and wonderful monster/alien morph or on the expectation that I would be able to transfer it to G8 (which has far more resources available, and better facial expressions). But If there's something about this morph that means that even the original artist was unable to do so satisfactorily, I'm very much surprised (I've transferred things that to my interpretation are more extreme morphs), but it's a considerable disincentive to pick her up.

  • vagansvagans Posts: 422

    The aspect ratio of the image used for the thumbnail in the shop is off.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,614

    honestly they are the same mesh and changing scene identification and baking rotations the clothes and hairs are interchangeable

    they even share the same UV mapping

    so I never understand why some find Genesis 3 so limiting compared to 8, unless doing poses undressed a child shouldn't be doing anyway

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,842
    edited August 2020

    G3 and G8 are not the same mesh.

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  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,676
    so I never understand why some find Genesis 3 so limiting compared to 8, unless doing poses undressed a child shouldn't be doing anyway

    Facial expressions are the primary reason I've moved all of my "important" G3 characters to G8. G8 has a large number of HD expressions, and a very powerful PowerPose interface for all the facial controls.

    Even with ostensibly similar morphs, it's just easier to get G8 characters not looking like their face is made out of plastic.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,614
    Leana said:

    G3 and G8 are not the same mesh.

    the separate eyelashes and eye geometry is different the rest is the same

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,676
    edited August 2020

    the separate eyelashes and eye geometry is different the rest is the same

    The fingernails/toenails on G3 are separate mesh islands, but are merged on G8.

    Post edited by Matt_Castle on
  • DripDrip Posts: 1,206

    I don't see the problem. G8 Clothes can be converted to G3 anyway. The G8 and G3 meshes are almost the same, but if the very minor differences (which most of you couldn't tell anyway) made Angelwings decide that the mesh just worked out better on G3 than it did on G8, then I fully support her and props for not staring herself blindly on the "G8 is newer so must be better in every aspect" fallacy.

    G8 isn't better than G3 persay. There have been some complaints in the past about face morphs and expressions not being convenient to work with, and even causing undesirable effects. But, gladly, the two figures are similar enough that sharing assets like clothes has actually become a thing.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    If I remember correctly, and it has been a long time, but didn't the shoulders bend better on G8 than G3?

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    edited August 2020

    Amazing texture for G3.  Victoria 7 never looked like this.  Just what I was looking forward to. <3

    I don't understand the Chloe MIX thing though sad

    Vicky 7 Chloe Materials.jpg
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    Vicky 7 Chloe Materials Pale.jpg
    1335 x 2160 - 2M
    Vicky 7 Chloe Materials Tan.jpg
    1335 x 2160 - 2M
    Vicky 7 Chloe Materials Tan with Wet preset.jpg
    1335 x 2160 - 1M
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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Damn that texture looks good.

    nicstt said:

    If I remember correctly, and it has been a long time, but didn't the shoulders bend better on G8 than G3?

    I don't know, but as shoulders are not allowed anyway I would not have thought that was important. wink

    Haha. True enough. If they're not under the clothes and bending correctly, then there would be an issue. Maybe I'm thinking of earlier: V4 and G1/2?

  • pixelquackpixelquack Posts: 288

    That model proves my point g3f base looks way more natural than big eye mutant hourglass g8.

  • GreymomGreymom Posts: 1,121

    Welcome to the DAZ store, Angelwings!  In the cart!

  • Sevrin said:

    Amazing texture for G3.  Victoria 7 never looked like this.  Just what I was looking forward to. <3

    This. I'm new enough that I've never used anything but g8, still bought this character to support AW because I stumbled onto her stuff on Rendo at some point and her textures are among the few for adults even, that I'm able to make look like a real person at all. I know it's my lack of knowledge about all the parameters involved with any store bought Figure's Surfaces, but I have bought soooooooooo many weird blue/grey/pink, mutant looking characters that just sit there collecting dust, I'll buy anything AW releases because there's no guess work at all. Hope she thrives here.

  • Lothar WeberLothar Weber Posts: 1,611
    Sevrin said:

    Amazing texture for G3.  Victoria 7 never looked like this.  Just what I was looking forward to. <3

    This. I'm new enough that I've never used anything but g8, still bought this character to support AW because I stumbled onto her stuff on Rendo at some point and her textures are among the few for adults even, that I'm able to make look like a real person at all. I know it's my lack of knowledge about all the parameters involved with any store bought Figure's Surfaces, but I have bought soooooooooo many weird blue/grey/pink, mutant looking characters that just sit there collecting dust, I'll buy anything AW releases because there's no guess work at all. Hope she thrives here.

    +1 ;-)

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