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  • DarthDDarthD Posts: 259

    Just upgraded and now my video card appears to not be used. It shows up but Iray is very slow and the post filters are not working. My GPU-Z ap shows no usage .NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    DarthD said:

    Just upgraded and now my video card appears to not be used. It shows up but Iray is very slow and the post filters are not working. My GPU-Z ap shows no usage .NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.

    Did you update your graphic card drivers too?

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,812
    nonesuch00 said:
    Fixmypcmike said:
    nonesuch00 said:
    Fixmypcmike said:
    Joaquim Lopes said:
    Richard Haseltine said:

    Daz was, I believe, aware of the issue but has to weigh up the consequences - not working for mac users on Big Sur vs. breaking all plug-ins on both OSes, soem of which will not be repaired as the developer is no longer active (or in at least one case, has died).

    In four years they couldn't come up with a solution? Come on, it's not something Apple decided four days ago. And if Mac users are second rate users, please do inform us. Right now I have suspended all my purchases from Daz.

    They may have a solution, but it requires breaking the API, which will break ALL plugins for ALL users, some of which will never be updated because the developer is no longer with us.  That's a big step -- Qt5 is something they've been working on for years, but again it will break the API.  Will they release DS5 with Big Sur support and Qt5?  I think they probably will, although I have no inside knowledge.  When?  That's the big question, and since it affects everyone, inside Daz3D and out, Daz3D may not have decided yet.

    They need to release a DAZ 4 Legecy then, that stays installed in parallel & seperate from DAZ 5 & DAZ 5 public beta right before they are ready to go to DAZ  & QT 5. QT 4 and legacy OSes will go away. New OSes eventually won't support legacy apps. Apple is particularly bad to leave users out in the cold and do it fast.

    Since it's in your Product Library, the final DS4 will still be available, just as DS3 was IF you had Advanced.  Since DS4 has to be in your Product Library it shouldn't be an issue.

    OK, I don't have DS3 but it's nice to know I can keep DS4 when DS5 comes out.

    At a guess you used the free version of DS3? DS3 Advanced was (and still is) available from product library, for the free version only the base content was there.

  • raphaelb1raphaelb1 Posts: 0
    edited November 2020

    do we know when will it be compatible with macOS Big Sur?

    Post edited by Richard Haseltine on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,273
    raphaelb1 said:

    do we know when will it be compatible with macOS Big Sur?

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/451486/daz-studio-macos-big-sur-compatibility#latest

  • Joaquim LopesJoaquim Lopes Posts: 46
    Richard Haseltine said:
    raphaelb1 said:

    do we know when will it be compatible with macOS Big Sur?

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/451486/daz-studio-macos-big-sur-compatibility#latest

    So, we are talking about August, September… of 2021 (or January, February of 2022). The big question is if it will be compatible with the next version of MacOS. Right now I'm voting with my wallet: when Daz get's it's act together and launches a version of DazStudio that works with my machine I will restart buying stuff. Untill then I'll wait (or just give up, depending on what is coming).

  • Norman1066Norman1066 Posts: 16
    edited November 2020

    Has anyone tried running the Windows version of Daz Studio on their Macs using Bootcamp? 

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  • norb82norb82 Posts: 4
    scal.64.ps said:

    Looks very nice, and so fast rendering too.

    Would be ever better if G8F characters didn't take SOOOOOOOOOOOO long to load... By the way, if any trick to reduce loading time exists anywhere else on this forum, i would love to see it.

    SSD.

  • grafkdesignergrafkdesigner Posts: 60
    edited November 2020
    DoctorJellybean said:
    grafkdesigner said:

    I have found that when I play a game I have to restart the computer in order for upgrade 4.14 to launch. Otherwise I'm sitting here clicking the mouse button and not getting a response. Other than that I really haven't had much problem with it. But just to be sure, I can revert back to 4.12, right?

    Is that after using DS earlier? Check in Task Manager if DS is running as a background process, and terminate it if it is.

    Okay, at the risk of sounding dumb, what is DS (computer artists don't know everything LOL). But I will check anyway, thx!

    Post edited by grafkdesigner on
  • DarthDDarthD Posts: 259
    Kerya said:
    DarthD said:

    Just upgraded and now my video card appears to not be used. It shows up but Iray is very slow and the post filters are not working. My GPU-Z ap shows no usage .NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.

    Did you update your graphic card drivers too?

    Yes it's the latest driver

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,463
    grafkdesigner said:
    DoctorJellybean said:
    grafkdesigner said:

    I have found that when I play a game I have to restart the computer in order for upgrade 4.14 to launch. Otherwise I'm sitting here clicking the mouse button and not getting a response. Other than that I really haven't had much problem with it. But just to be sure, I can revert back to 4.12, right?

    Is that after using DS earlier? Check in Task Manager if DS is running as a background process, and terminate it if it is.

    Okay, at the risk of sounding dumb, what is DS (computer artists don't know everything LOL). But I will check anyway, thx!

    DS = Daz Studio.

  • TheRetiredSailorTheRetiredSailor Posts: 260
    DarthD said:
    Kerya said:
    DarthD said:

    Just upgraded and now my video card appears to not be used. It shows up but Iray is very slow and the post filters are not working. My GPU-Z ap shows no usage .NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070.

    Did you update your graphic card drivers too?

    Yes it's the latest driver

    This release (as I understand it) has a newer release of the iRay code in which NVIDIA has discontinued support of some older GPU chipsets. I don't know the details. 

  • TheRetiredSailorTheRetiredSailor Posts: 260

    Please see this thread for details. 
    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/449356

  • jbowlerjbowler Posts: 798
    norb82 said:
    scal.64.ps said:

    Looks very nice, and so fast rendering too.

    Would be ever better if G8F characters didn't take SOOOOOOOOOOOO long to load... By the way, if any trick to reduce loading time exists anywhere else on this forum, i would love to see it.

    SSD.

    PCIex4 NVMe SSD, 2TB, it's running x2 because I made the mistake of plugging a USB card into a slot it shares bandwidth with but my G8F load is still slow.  I checked a load of a scene with a single G8F after a reboot (so no populated disk cache).  The load was CPU limited all the time; it was running a single core flat out, but the disk utilization did not go above about 3% and was typically 0.1MB/s.

    It is reported that the problem is the loading of character morphs when you own a lot of them, and the character "properties" entry on the animation time line does, indeed, show a large number of morphs.  Indeed creating a key-frame for just the properties in that node takes forever.  This is not new for 4.14.

    The apparent fix, which I have not tried yet, is to de-install all the G8F characters you have then just re-install the ones you actually use; some of the morph sets like the "genesis 8 female body morphs" are widely used but bespoke characters that do not depend on them have morphs which are certainly only necessary if used.

     

  • robert.ramin_973cab5499robert.ramin_973cab5499 Posts: 32

    As many of you, I discovered that DAZ Studio 4.xx was not working with Big Sur: Library not loaded: /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib.

    And also DZ3DIM: Library not loaded: /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa (/usr/lib/dyld).

    Without breaking anything (OS compatibility), I think there are 2 QUICK an EASY solutions (minor update) for DAZ Studio to work with any MacOS :

    1-Stop trying to load the library explicitly using a system hard path i.e /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib but rather just from a DAZ Studio mandatory one: for example DAZStudio4 64-bit/Frameworks.

    (In the begenning I thought the program was looking for the missing lib in all the folders inside the DAZ folder so I copied libstdc++.6.dylib in each of them but it's been a NOGO.)

    ===>1 line change in the code, recompile(XCODE 12 ?).

    2-Replace the load of the library libstdc++.6.dylib by the library libc++.dylib as recommended by Apple since XCODE8....

    ===>1 line change in the code, recompile(XCODE 12 ?).

    Finally: For the developper, please don't tell us you need to wait until august 2021 !.

     

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 923

    Thanks very much for the replies.

    Fixmypcmike said:
    kenmo said:

    Can DAZ Studio 4.14 be downloadad and installed WITHOUT DAZ Central or Install Manager? 

    When I install via DAZ Central, DAZ Studio no longer appears in my Windows 10 "Add / Remove Programs"

    Also it does not install DAZ Studio in the folder C:\Program Files\

    But installs it in "C:\DAZ 3D\Applications\" which I prefer not to. 

    Is there a benefit for installing it in this folder over C:\Program Files\ ?????

    Cheers & many thanks

    Ken

    You can download a stand-alone installer from your Product Library:  https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    It doesn't show up in Add/Remove programs -- if you install it with Daz Central or DIM you uninstall it the same way.

    Daz Central simplifies the folder structure by installing everything into one folder, C:\Daz 3D  Since it's installing content there as well as applications, it's better to stay outside of Program Files.

    Sorry but there NO download link at the url you posted.

     

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  • kenmokenmo Posts: 923

    So I will ask once again - Where can DAZ Studio be downloaded without DAZ Central or Install Manager?

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,639
    kenmo said:

    Thanks very much for the replies.

    Fixmypcmike said:
    kenmo said:

    Can DAZ Studio 4.14 be downloadad and installed WITHOUT DAZ Central or Install Manager? 

    When I install via DAZ Central, DAZ Studio no longer appears in my Windows 10 "Add / Remove Programs"

    Also it does not install DAZ Studio in the folder C:\Program Files\

    But installs it in "C:\DAZ 3D\Applications\" which I prefer not to. 

    Is there a benefit for installing it in this folder over C:\Program Files\ ?????

    Cheers & many thanks

    Ken

    You can download a stand-alone installer from your Product Library:  https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    It doesn't show up in Add/Remove programs -- if you install it with Daz Central or DIM you uninstall it the same way.

    Daz Central simplifies the folder structure by installing everything into one folder, C:\Daz 3D  Since it's installing content there as well as applications, it's better to stay outside of Program Files.

    Sorry but there NO download link at the url you posted.

     

    Expand the Description line below the image and scroll down.

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 923
    Tannim said:

    Where can I find the download links for the new build of studio,.. I refuse to install central,.. IF I click on download studio it just suggests hey why not download central,. if I go to my products and go to DS pro from there,.. it just suggests Central if I click on the DS picture it takes me to a "Oh not there anymore missing page" 

    I've been wasting my time on this website and on the forum wondering the same thing. WHY is it so hard to find a download link for DAZ Studio. It should be in plain view site. 

    This is ridiculous.

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,639
    kenmo said:

    So I will ask once again - Where can DAZ Studio be downloaded without DAZ Central or Install Manager?

    Once you've scrolled down, you want the Manual downloads. Even though it says Download zip, the actual installers are downloaded.

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 923
    edited November 2020

    I've scrolled down. There is NO download links for a ZIP file at the link posted....

    https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    Nor is there any downloads at the Product Page.

    Post edited by kenmo on
  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,639
    kenmo said:

    I've scrolled down. There is NO download links for a ZIP file at the link posted....

    https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    Nor is there any downloads at the Product Page.

    Did you click on Description and scrolled down? Are you signed in?

    One can either download the standalone installer, or the DIM zip.

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  • rhyswootton_8e77ccf5f4rhyswootton_8e77ccf5f4 Posts: 7
    edited November 2020

    Anyone else having post Deionizer NOT rendering in 4.14? I've just checked and my machine IS rendering with it on 4.12 (still kept it just in case) - so its Daz3d problem, so not a problem with my computer.

    Anyone else have this?

    Post edited by rhyswootton_8e77ccf5f4 on
  • kenmokenmo Posts: 923
    DoctorJellybean said:
    kenmo said:

     

     

    I've scrolled down. There is NO download links for a ZIP file at the link posted....

    https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_13176

    Nor is there any downloads at the Product Page.

    Did you click on Description and scrolled down? Are you signed in?

    One can either download the standalone installer, or the DIM zip.

    I tried several times yesterday and NOTHING showed. I tried again today and I NOW do see the download links. Strange!!!

    Thanks kindly, I did download Studio.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,714

    As much as I was loving my experience with Daz Studio 4.14, it keeps having a fatal error crash at critical point on very light (one dressed character with HDRI dome) scenes. Loving it while it's up and running though!

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,273
    Dartanbeck said:

    As much as I was loving my experience with Daz Studio 4.14, it keeps having a fatal error crash at critical point on very light (one dressed character with HDRI dome) scenes. Loving it while it's up and running though!

    If this is a consistently reproducible crash then please submit a report with the scene attached, and a note of the content used. Try to make the scene as simple as possible.

  • foleyprofoleypro Posts: 485

    2 renders 13 seconds and 15 seconds in filament the shadow bug..It comes down to poly's...can be used with green screen for massive enviorments..

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  • foleyprofoleypro Posts: 485
    edited November 2020

    used a white enviorment..

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  • foleyprofoleypro Posts: 485
    edited November 2020
    foleypro said:

    2 renders 13 seconds and 15 seconds in filament the shadow bug..It comes down to poly's...can be used with green screen for massive enviorments..

    Man I should get back on the beta team again..since I was an alpha/beta/developer for Daz Studio from first release...

     

     

    Post edited by foleypro on
  • foleyprofoleypro Posts: 485
    Dartanbeck said:

    As much as I was loving my experience with Daz Studio 4.14, it keeps having a fatal error crash at critical point on very light (one dressed character with HDRI dome) scenes. Loving it while it's up and running though!

     

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