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I've not noticed whatever this problem is. What is it?
My 'base' for the G2M is Lee - as he came out right as I came back to all of this. Either he lacks the issue, or I'm not noticing this issue. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be looking for? The pectorals have the wrong shape somehow? Kind of like how with Genesis 1, the female bosom on the base figure tends to look like its been twisted out of the male shape?
It's how they droop downward almost like flattened frmale breasts. Male muscular pecs are built up they do not fall at the bottom of the muscles causing that sad rounded effect. Squaring them off at the bottom would help,which is something I wss hoping would be done with the hype of how genesis and g2 were supposed to be so great. I prefer male models and as an artist who loved to focus on drawing the male muscular form those kinds of details are a big deal.
I use g2 male sometimes and do more postwork fixing his muscletone then I had to with m4. Sure he is a good model but he needs a lot of work. As for the newer female, I can still do well with v4 and all without having to buy all those character sets just to get a simple look. What the heck do lillith, lee, and the other character add ons do? I mean if I wanted a voluptous woman with v4 i had the morphs plus. If I wanted any ethniticity I had the ability to do so with the morphs or i bought a set of morphs that gave me more then one ethnic look. Looks like more of a money pit to me when older figures are versatile just as well.
What can be loaded into Genesis 2 figures? Can the generation 3 figures, and the generation 4 figures be loaded? Can all the morphs for those figures be loaded too? Can commercially sold characters made for generation 3 and 4 figures, which use the Morlphs ++ to create the characters, be loaded into Genesis 2?
I've got tons of characters made from generation 3 and 4 products, that I'd really like to convert to Genesis 2, but I don't know how to do it, or whether it's even possible.
Thanks!
It's how they droop downward almost like flattened frmale breasts. Male muscular pecs are built up they do not fall at the bottom of the muscles causing that sad rounded effect. Squaring them off at the bottom would help,which is something I wss hoping would be done with the hype of how genesis and g2 were supposed to be so great. I prefer male models and as an artist who loved to focus on drawing the male muscular form those kinds of details are a big deal.
I use g2 male sometimes and do more postwork fixing his muscletone then I had to with m4. Sure he is a good model but he needs a lot of work. As for the newer female, I can still do well with v4 and all without having to buy all those character sets just to get a simple look. What the heck do lillith, lee, and the other character add ons do? I mean if I wanted a voluptous woman with v4 i had the morphs plus. If I wanted any ethniticity I had the ability to do so with the morphs or i bought a set of morphs that gave me more then one ethnic look. Looks like more of a money pit to me when older figures are versatile just as well.
I don’t think the generation 6 characters are meant to be the solution for different kind of shapes. For instance, I don’t think Lee 6 is meant to replace Genesis’ ethnicity morphs on Genesis 2 Male.
I see them just as individual, optional characters like the Elite line was for Generation 4.
The issue to me, is the trend to put a “6” on every new character that comes out even if they don't offer enough variety from each other. I preferred the feel of iconic, distinctive characters that previous generations had and made you want to see how it would look in the next version, but that's me.
If you look at it from one end Man was created from a lump of clay and Woman from one of the man's ribs. If you look at another way, we all began from Primordial slime (oove?). Or we were put here by who knows what or whom. Whatever way you choose to look at it, what is normal and when is something a step forward or back?
What can be loaded into Genesis 2 figures? Can the generation 3 figures, and the generation 4 figures be loaded? Can all the morphs for those figures be loaded too? Can commercially sold characters made for generation 3 and 4 figures, which use the Morlphs ++ to create the characters, be loaded into Genesis 2?
I've got tons of characters made from generation 3 and 4 products, that I'd really like to convert to Genesis 2, but I don't know how to do it, or whether it's even possible.
Thanks!
this is the Gen X thread, it can answer your questions: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24079/
I know for certain you can load:
M4, V4, G2F & G2M into Genesis
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2M into G2F
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2F into G2M
I'm not 100% sure about 3rd gen shapes.
Yes, you can, you simply need the addons.
I've not noticed whatever this problem is. What is it?
He looks sometime that he has more feminine breasts. I see it less on lee, although lee has his own issue- a sort of longish toso in my opinion. Some models look to me like they have cleavage .
The breasts are also difficult to reduce entirely giving him a cleavage appearence. It is partially enhanced by the fit of clothing which to me sort of cups the pecs in a strange way. Men's clothing should be smoother in the front.
It is a frustrating issue that I often have to photoshop out.
He looks sometime that he has more feminine breasts. I see it less on lee, although lee has his own issue- a sort of longish toso in my opinion. Some models look to me like they have cleavage.
I'll have to look at that to see if it matches the historical Asian torso-leg ratio.
A longer torso to leg ratio is normal unless you're a Korean born after 1990, or some Asian Americans raised on western diets. East Asians before that and in the other countries tend to have a vitamin deficiency somewhere (my doctor brother explained the technical reason to me years ago) that gives a lot of people shorter legs. If you live in an area with very high Asian populations you can spot the people are immigrants from other than Korea simply by this ratio. Some American born Asians on the other hand, can end up super tall, like my 7-foot nephew who is only 15. Korea has undergone major changes in society that shifted nutritional awareness around since the end of military rule in 1992.
Its my big complaint about the idea of trying to morph Aiko into realism - her legs are too long for realism, and especially so for Asian realism.
I'll have to look at that to see if it matches the historical Asian torso-leg ratio.
A longer torso to leg ratio is normal unless you're a Korean born after 1990, or some Asian Americans raised on western diets. East Asians before that and in the other countries tend to have a vitamin deficiency somewhere (my doctor brother explained the technical reason to me years ago) that gives a lot of people shorter legs. If you live in an area with very high Asian populations you can spot the people are immigrants from other than Korea simply by this ratio. Some American born Asians on the other hand, can end up super tall, like my 7-foot nephew who is only 15. Korea has undergone major changes in society that shifted nutritional awareness around since the end of military rule in 1992.
Its my big complaint about the idea of trying to morph Aiko into realism - her legs are too long for realism, and especially so for Asian realism.
That's very informative Arcady!
I didn't know that about torso length.
I do wish it is adjustable, since Lee's pecs look better than M6's and Giannis. I'd love to steal those. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to dial in Lee's pecs without lengthening the figure's torso. Lee's pecs look flatter than any of the G2 males so far.
I'll have to look at that to see if it matches the historical Asian torso-leg ratio.
A longer torso to leg ratio is normal unless you're a Korean born after 1990, or some Asian Americans raised on western diets. East Asians before that and in the other countries tend to have a vitamin deficiency somewhere (my doctor brother explained the technical reason to me years ago) that gives a lot of people shorter legs. If you live in an area with very high Asian populations you can spot the people are immigrants from other than Korea simply by this ratio. Some American born Asians on the other hand, can end up super tall, like my 7-foot nephew who is only 15. Korea has undergone major changes in society that shifted nutritional awareness around since the end of military rule in 1992.
Its my big complaint about the idea of trying to morph Aiko into realism - her legs are too long for realism, and especially so for Asian realism.
That's very informative Arcady!
I didn't know that about torso length.
I do wish it is adjustable, since Lee's pecs look better than M6's and Giannis. I'd love to steal those. Unfortunately, I haven't found a way to dial in Lee's pecs without lengthening the figure's torso. Lee's pecs look flatter than any of the G2 males so far.
You could try transfering Carpenter's Dream onto Gen2M.
this is the Gen X thread, it can answer your questions: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24079/
I know for certain you can load:
M4, V4, G2F & G2M into Genesis
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2M into G2F
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2F into G2M
I'm not 100% sure about 3rd gen shapes.
Thanks for the link to the thread, but it's 61 pages of posts. I got totally confused after the first 10 or so.
this is the Gen X thread, it can answer your questions: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/24079/
I know for certain you can load:
M4, V4, G2F & G2M into Genesis
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2M into G2F
Genesis, M4, V4 and G2F into G2M
I'm not 100% sure about 3rd gen shapes.
Thanks for the link to the thread, but it's 61 pages of posts. I got totally confused after the first 10 or so.
Well, Fauvist, you seem to have to. All combinations TimG listed are correct. Generation 3 shapes will work too, but you need the addons from here: http://www.daz3d.com/dimension3d.
Thanks for the reply, I've been experimenting with 3D for at least a decade, but probably more, but only as a hobby, so I don't like spending much money on it, mostly I live off of freebies. So yes I was there when they were experimenting with that, but it wasn't much of a concern for me, as 9 out 10 times I'll do female characters.
I'll look into this GENX thing.
I was around in the Posette, V3 era and then left the scene for many years slightly after V4 (who I didn't like at the time). So I missed all the Genesis and Genesis 2 stuff until coming back just recently.
I can safely say that GenX2 (and some addons) is the best thing I've bought since returning. Transferring all those great morphs between figures is pretty easy as long as you are careful.
But my main use for it is to transfer full characters. I'm only really interested in V4, M4, Gen and Gen2F+M, but whichever character I buy or create, I can easily transfer it to one of the others. For example, I'd take a V4 character and transfer it to both Gen and G2F. This does give me three different versions of the same character, but it also gives me full access to all the clothing for that base figure and the associated morphs. Seems to give me less problems when fitting clothes as they go on the figure they are designed for.
It's probably not the way for everyone, but it's the way I like. :)