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Embarrassing lack of Christmas items...

wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184
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I want to do a Christmas render and find that Daz suffers from a real lack of cute Christmas dresses for Genesis 8 females and I only found one Christmas tree (victorian). Anyone know of good, current Christmas resources? Thanks.

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  • Mark_e593e0a5Mark_e593e0a5 Posts: 1,599
    edited December 2020

    You may find some on rendo, but they are not too well sorteed in the Christmas clothing department either. They ahve a nice Christmas outfit by nirvy, though.

    Post edited by Mark_e593e0a5 on
  • watchdog79watchdog79 Posts: 1,026
    edited December 2020

    There is this bundle: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-home-bundle

    It includes this Christmas tree: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-tree

     

    There is a Christmas tree in this too: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-christmas-living

    And here too: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-eve

     

    I am not sure what exactly you meant by "cute", but have you seen these?

    https://www.daz3d.com/sexy-christmas-elf-bundle-fwsa-yulia-hd-and-her-finery

     https://www.daz3d.com/very-merry-christmas-bundle

     

    This may come in handy too: https://www.daz3d.com/z-christmas-fun-props-and-poses-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

    Post edited by watchdog79 on
  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2020
    watchdog79 said:

    There is this bundle: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-home-bundle

    It includes this Christmas tree: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-tree

     

    There is a Christmas tree in this too: https://www.daz3d.com/fg-christmas-living

    And here too: https://www.daz3d.com/christmas-eve

     

    I am not sure what exactly you meant by "cute", but have you seen these?

    https://www.daz3d.com/sexy-christmas-elf-bundle-fwsa-yulia-hd-and-her-finery

     https://www.daz3d.com/very-merry-christmas-bundle

     

    This may come in handy too: https://www.daz3d.com/z-christmas-fun-props-and-poses-for-genesis-3-and-8-female

    Gorgeous Christmas tree by Polish...used here - 

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184

    Sorry i tried to post a pic, but the forums are not letting me ad an attachment right now.

  • SadeSade Posts: 883

    i have a christmas shader, if its helps. (its knitted)

    https://www.daz3d.com/xmas-knits-iray-shaders-

  • PaintboxPaintbox Posts: 1,633
    Sade said:

    i have a christmas shader, if its helps. (its knitted)

    https://www.daz3d.com/xmas-knits-iray-shaders-

    Those look fun :)

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    wmiller314 said:

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

    You should be fine with G3. 99.9% of it is Iray (because G3 came out right at the same time Iray did). And G3 clothing converts well to G8, other than heels. 

  • ALLIEKATBLUEALLIEKATBLUE Posts: 2,977

    I googled "Santa dresses daz3d" and came up with many suggestions.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,782
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

    You should be fine with G3. 99.9% of it is Iray (because G3 came out right at the same time Iray did). And G3 clothing converts well to G8, other than heels. 

    This!

    IMO what is embarrassing is artists that don't make the effort to get things to work when there isn't a plug and play one click option. Being creative means putting in some of the work yourself beyond just moving things around in DS.

  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184
    FSMCDesigns said:
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

     

    This!

    IMO what is embarrassing is artists that don't make the effort to get things to work when there isn't a plug and play one click option. Being creative means putting in some of the work yourself beyond just moving things around in DS.

    Ouch. Sorry I'm not as computer savvy as you.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310
    wmiller314 said:
    FSMCDesigns said:
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

     

    This!

    IMO what is embarrassing is artists that don't make the effort to get things to work when there isn't a plug and play one click option. Being creative means putting in some of the work yourself beyond just moving things around in DS.

    Ouch. Sorry I'm not as computer savvy as you.

    There's no need to be sorry.  But there's a lot to learn in Daz, mostly by screwing up, and there are times when, in order to achieve what you want, it's necessary to try new things.  Or in this case, old things.  G3 and G8 stuff generally gets along pretty well, and almost all G3 stuff includes Iray materials that look as good as G8 materials.  Truth be told, some G8 stuff doesn't look so great, so it's not a guarantee of quality.

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,085
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

    You should be fine with G3. 99.9% of it is Iray (because G3 came out right at the same time Iray did). And G3 clothing converts well to G8, other than heels. 

    ???  Genesis 3, which came out with DS 4.9, came out well after the introduction of Iray, which was originally introduced during the run of DS 4.8, and I've never heard of a G3 product that wasn't shipped with iray as the default.   

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2020
    Cybersox said:
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

    You should be fine with G3. 99.9% of it is Iray (because G3 came out right at the same time Iray did). And G3 clothing converts well to G8, other than heels. 

    ???  Genesis 3, which came out with DS 4.9, came out well after the introduction of Iray, which was originally introduced during the run of DS 4.8, and I've never heard of a G3 product that wasn't shipped with iray as the default.   

    I started using Daz when G8 was brand new, so I was ballparking it. I assumed it would have been around the same time as the default skin texture for G3F when loaded is using 3DL mats (if I remember correctly). That and I don't find much stuff for G2 that uses Iray. 

    Either way, OP should be totally fine going with G3 outfits if they find one in the style they are looking for. 

    Post edited by MelissaGT on
  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    FSMCDesigns said:
    melissastjames said:
    wmiller314 said:

    I'd really like a gen 8 outfit like this: community christmas annie at DuckDuckGo

    But I don't want anything genesis 3. I see no sense in buying old assets that don't look good under Iray.

    You should be fine with G3. 99.9% of it is Iray (because G3 came out right at the same time Iray did). And G3 clothing converts well to G8, other than heels. 

    This!

    IMO what is embarrassing is artists that don't make the effort to get things to work when there isn't a plug and play one click option. Being creative means putting in some of the work yourself beyond just moving things around in DS.

    Getting G3 clothing to fit G8 is also pretty easy. I think most are under the impression that it's difficult.

    Laurie

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,748
    edited December 2020

    Genesis 3 clothing and hair usually plays pretty well with Genesis 8 - sleeveless clothing tends to fit nearly flawlessly in particular. Many Genesis 3 clothing can be added to the scene (with nothing in the scene selected), their "Scene Identification" changed to Genesis 8, and then "fit to" Genesis 8. That often works pretty well. Sleeveless dresses, like you're looking for, are an almost perfect fit from Genesis 3 to Genesis 8.

    Post edited by 3Diva on
  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,597
    edited December 2020

    I had to hide bits of her shin with the geometry editor and feet toes just hid

    but otherwise genesis 1 Santa Baby didn't fit too badly

    I know some would want strand based hair instead of transmapped

    santababy.jpg
    1600 x 900 - 989K
    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184

    Is any G3 stuff dforce?

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2020
    wmiller314 said:

    Is any G3 stuff dforce?

    Not unless it was released after the advent of dForce (and it specifically says dForce). Some PA's will put out dForce outfits that are both G8 and G3. 

    That being said, with a little experimentation and trial and error, you can easily convert most anything to dForce. You just have to learn how to paint a dForce weight map. For example, pictured below is a G2F dress converted to dForce - 

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184

    That is beautiful! Sooooo good. Unfortunately I don't think I'll ever be that talented. I just sort of tinker. lol

  • wmiller314wmiller314 Posts: 184

    Do you have a blog or something where you teach your methods?

  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,663

    I wouldn't mind a tutorial on how to paint dforce, all the ones I find on youtube are, though helpful, they really should speak clearer, and zoom in on the buttons and sliders used for those who have average sized monitors, mine is 20 inches. In many cases they are going so fast I can't keep track of what they're doing, or they mumble or say little to nothing. For some reason most don't make use of the desciption area to give more information.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,310

    Be sure to check out Mada's channel on YouTube.  She has a couple of good videos on adding and modifying dForce.

    (4) Mada de Leeuw - YouTube

  • gitika1gitika1 Posts: 948
    edited December 2020

    melissastjames said:

    Is any G3 stuff dforce?

    Not unless it was released after the advent of dForce (and it specifically says dForce). Some PA's will put out dForce outfits that are both G8 and G3. 

    That being said, with a little experimentation and trial and error, you can easily convert most anything to dForce. You just have to learn how to paint a dForce weight map. For example, pictured below is a G2F dress converted to dForce - 

    Amazing job with the dress! I would have never thought it was G2

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,748

    @melissastjames Stunning render! I could see that as a cover for a novel. Gorgeous work!

  • PudgyPudgy Posts: 67

    What lighting was used in the scene?

  • Jan_ScrapperJan_Scrapper Posts: 354

    Sade said:

    i have a christmas shader, if its helps. (its knitted)

    https://www.daz3d.com/xmas-knits-iray-shaders-

     The Christmas shaders are so beautiful!!  My fav is the black, gold and white!!!

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    wmiller314 said:

    Do you have a blog or something where you teach your methods?

    Thanks! I pretty much tinker as well. It's all trial and error. 

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611

    3Diva said:

    @melissastjames Stunning render! I could see that as a cover for a novel. Gorgeous work!

    Thank you! It started out as just a promo for the the draping sleeves, but I wanted to show how they can be added to other outfits for kitbashing and it kinda went from there, lol.  

  • MelissaGTMelissaGT Posts: 2,611
    edited December 2020

    Pudgy said:

    What lighting was used in the scene?

    If you're asking about the one I posted, it's lighting from the HDRI as well as a soft backlight and fill light.  

    Sorry for the multiple posts...not sure what's going on but I can't multi-quote anymore. The edit screen also looks funky...I'm assuming it must have something to do with someone fiddling around with the site.
    Post edited by MelissaGT on
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