Thanks for saving me money, DAZ!

murgatroyd314murgatroyd314 Posts: 1,548
edited December 1969 in The Commons

With yet another overcomplicated punch-based reward system, plus the savings on a single item being no better than a standard intro sale, plus once again making exceptions to your usually excellent return policy, you're making it very easy for me not to buy things in this sale.

In fact, you've even inspired me to look at a couple of other content sites that I haven't visited in months.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,840
    edited December 1969

    It's only day one, but I too was disappointed to see the sale conditions.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited December 1969

    Unless the PA's do something that really tempts me, the only things I see myself buying this month is Zigraphix's upcoming Aiko 3 Morphs & Maps for Genesis and the Mei Lin 6 Pro Bundle (assuming it will come out this month).

    So, I'm not bothered by it either way. :)

  • RuphussRuphuss Posts: 2,631
    edited September 2014

    With yet another overcomplicated punch-based reward system, plus the savings on a single item being no better than a standard intro sale, plus once again making exceptions to your usually excellent return policy, you're making it very easy for me not to buy things in this sale.

    In fact, you've even inspired me to look at a couple of other content sites that I haven't visited in months.

    +1
    I don't like being punched this way also

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  • MN-150374MN-150374 Posts: 923
    edited December 1969

    Like every day: Buy 1 get 30% off, buy 2 get 40% off, buy 3 get 50%.

    And earning punches makes it the >Biggest PA Sale of the Year<? Really? :-)

  • bad4ubad4u Posts: 684
    edited September 2014

    With yet another overcomplicated punch-based reward system, plus the savings on a single item being no better than a standard intro sale, plus once again making exceptions to your usually excellent return policy, you're making it very easy for me not to buy things in this sale.

    [...]

    lol. My first thoughts exactly.

    I was hoping for a straight 50% sale for older items to clear out my wishlist again, instead sale conditions for non PC+ members look just like any other daily sale from the last months - throwing in stupid 'punches' rules once more. No, thanks.

    Unfortunately I don't remember last years conditions exactly, but it feels like PC+ members do not get better discounts than before, more like all the others get worse ones to make PC+ look better. But maybe I'm wrong.

    Well, doesn't really matter. Good luck PAs.

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  • UnseenUnseen Posts: 659
    edited September 2014

    I have purchased some items yesterday but I will not buy anything today for exactly the same reasons that have been explained before and also because very few items are Poser compatible. I will meanwhile say that this lack of Poser support is just an observation and IN NO WAY an attempt at starting a polemic about that... :)

    I just see that very few items released today are Poser compatible. Thus less chance for me to get enough punches to receive a better discount on other things since I will not buy what I will be unable to use correctly in Poser.

    I am a PC member and I do not intend to become a PC+ member until the end of my PC membership in April 2015 because why would I want to pay more for PC items when a majority of new PA releases are not compatible with my favourite program?

    This year's PA festival must not be for me but I think that I will survive it... ;)

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    I'm just ignoring the punches and buying things I would ordinarily get because I can use them. I don't mind the return policy being denied on the punch item, because it would just be too overwhelming for DAZ to handle- very complicated to undo it. But wasnt there a way to opt out of that during the Snowball sale and other punch sales? Did I miss it- I haven't seen that option but I haven't been on the threads much.

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    I want to say that, while I never participated in the punchable sales, I got one punch today! On the second day, guys!!!

    It was a freebie though, I prize the return policy too much to be tempted by the offers :coolgrin:.

    Unless the PA's do something that really tempts me, the only things I see myself buying this month is Zigraphix's upcoming Aiko 3 Morphs & Maps for Genesis and the Mei Lin 6 Pro Bundle (assuming it will come out this month).

    Who's Mei Lin? Is that a counterpart to Lee or what? A3 Morphs and Maps for Gen2F - this product is going to be a hit and likely, I'll scrape up the funds immediately. Provided I don't transfer A3 and my favourite characters for her via GenX2 before it hits the shop.

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    The last sale with 'punches' earned me quite a few, but for the life of me, I couldn't figure out how they were meant to be used at the end of it. Didn't auto-discount things for me, that was for certain.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    I believe the small print explains that each Monday is when your punch reward becomes active. In other words, you earn the punches this week, then next Monday, they should activate when you log in. There will probably be some kind of bar/graphic at the top showing you your punches.

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    I'm just ignoring the punches and buying things I would ordinarily get because I can use them. I don't mind the return policy being denied on the punch item, because it would just be too overwhelming for DAZ to handle- very complicated to undo it. But wasnt there a way to opt out of that during the Snowball sale and other punch sales? Did I miss it- I haven't seen that option but I haven't been on the threads much.

    If you don't care about the punches or the rest of it and don't want to lose the standard DAZ return benefit, submit a ticket asking to opt out of the punches. We've done this several times already and will continue to opt out those promos with small print no return clauses.

  • SylvanSylvan Posts: 2,718
    edited December 1969

    I want to say that, while I never participated in the punchable sales, I got one punch today! On the second day, guys!!!

    It was a freebie though, I prize the return policy too much to be tempted by the offers :coolgrin:.

    Unless the PA's do something that really tempts me, the only things I see myself buying this month is Zigraphix's upcoming Aiko 3 Morphs & Maps for Genesis and the Mei Lin 6 Pro Bundle (assuming it will come out this month).

    Who's Mei Lin? Is that a counterpart to Lee or what? A3 Morphs and Maps for Gen2F - this product is going to be a hit and likely, I'll scrape up the funds immediately. Provided I don't transfer A3 and my favourite characters for her via GenX2 before it hits the shop.

    What freebie was that Oo

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Novica said:
    I believe the small print explains that each Monday is when your punch reward becomes active. In other words, you earn the punches this week, then next Monday, they should activate when you log in. There will probably be some kind of bar/graphic at the top showing you your punches.

    Yeah, I remember that part. Lots about how I qualified for X number of them. Just wasn't anything on how to use them. Rather mystified me, but I needed the stuff which earned them, anyway, so... :)

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited September 2014

    Estroyer said:
    I want to say that, while I never participated in the punchable sales, I got one punch today! On the second day, guys!!!

    It was a freebie though, I prize the return policy too much to be tempted by the offers :coolgrin:.

    Unless the PA's do something that really tempts me, the only things I see myself buying this month is Zigraphix's upcoming Aiko 3 Morphs & Maps for Genesis and the Mei Lin 6 Pro Bundle (assuming it will come out this month).

    Who's Mei Lin? Is that a counterpart to Lee or what? A3 Morphs and Maps for Gen2F - this product is going to be a hit and likely, I'll scrape up the funds immediately. Provided I don't transfer A3 and my favourite characters for her via GenX2 before it hits the shop.

    What freebie was that Oo
    Well I noted a texture set for a robot I dont have, lol.
    http://www.daz3d.com/project-black-bird
    (pc+ only probably)

    Mei Lin 6? hmmm. Don't know other then a listing in a compatibility list here
    http://www.daz3d.com/clothing-smoothers-for-daz-genesis-2-female-s
    probably another work in progress or something discontinued.


    No returns, I need to read that again. I thought that was just stuff I got from the punches for free, not All items purchased.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,781
    edited December 1969

    Couldn't agree more. I log in and see the banner with the word "punch" in it and just move on. I have no time or inclination to play this game, just give me normal sales and i am good.

  • Robert952Robert952 Posts: 141
    edited December 1969

    Have to agree.... these are becoming less and less of events and more like a ply to increase sales regardless of impact on customer base.

    And if you are a long time customer (since 2005 according to my order history), there's no real incentive to remain loyal.

    Like others, I am looking at different, more cost effective resources.

    Yes, I am ranting. But I am also discontented with DAZ these days.

  • Subtropic PixelSubtropic Pixel Posts: 2,388
    edited December 1969

    I'll bet this punchdown is the buildup to a new character.

    I'm guessing it might possibly be Freak 6 (Lady Freak 6?). Maybe with a Frankenstein option for October?

    But yeah, I've been avoiding the punch sales. It's like the complicated games in Vegas; frustrating if it takes training for me to understand them. And seriously, why would I bother with anything outside of Blackjack or Roulette when those tables are the most fun anyway!

  • DaikatanaDaikatana Posts: 830
    edited December 1969

    This time around I am ignoring the whole "punch" thing. The extra discount (PC+ member) is of course helpful in that if I see something I would actually use, it gets purchased rather than going on my wish list against a future sale. Other than that, I am not playing the game. If in the process of this, I get "punches" that actually accumulate a larger discount on an item I would actually purchase, thats an added bonus.

  • cecilia.robinsoncecilia.robinson Posts: 2,208
    edited December 1969

    Estroyer said:
    I want to say that, while I never participated in the punchable sales, I got one punch today! On the second day, guys!!!

    It was a freebie though, I prize the return policy too much to be tempted by the offers :coolgrin:.

    Unless the PA's do something that really tempts me, the only things I see myself buying this month is Zigraphix's upcoming Aiko 3 Morphs & Maps for Genesis and the Mei Lin 6 Pro Bundle (assuming it will come out this month).

    Who's Mei Lin? Is that a counterpart to Lee or what? A3 Morphs and Maps for Gen2F - this product is going to be a hit and likely, I'll scrape up the funds immediately. Provided I don't transfer A3 and my favourite characters for her via GenX2 before it hits the shop.

    What freebie was that Oo

    Yup, this texture: http://www.daz3d.com/project-black-bird. I'm not a PC member. Yeah, I don't have Poser (it says "Poser only", but since those are textures, it probably means I'd only need to adjust them to work like in the promos), yeah, I'm not the robot's owner, but a freebie is a freebie. Since I can download my purchases at any time 'till Hell freezes over or DAZ closes down (both very improbable, right? :lol:), I grab anything 100% off every time I see it, just in case.

    I'll bet this punchdown is the buildup to a new character.

    I'm guessing it might possibly be Freak 6 (Lady Freak 6?). Maybe with a Frankenstein option for October?

    Hmm... It could be, though isn't it a bit strange we basically get a new major shape every month...?

    And you're right, there is something like that in the Clothing Smoothers description:

    Mei Lin 6 Skirt Helper
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 01
    Mei Lin 6 Smoother 02

    Probably a counterpart to Lee. Funny, I always associate him with Gia, while Gianni with Olympia. Heh, with Vicky being a wife of Mike (kind of) and Josie Jayden's (girl)friend, it leaves Stephanie, Lilith, Aiko and poor Giselle still single. What a pity! This calls for a render.

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,905
    edited December 1969

    No returns, I need to read that again. I thought that was just stuff I got from the punches for free, not All items purchased.


    "Items bought to receive punches, as well as those bought with punch discounts are ineligible for return."

    Doesn't bother me as I have returned very few things in two years. But yes, that's what it says- includes both the items bought and the items gotten with the punches.

  • zawarkalzawarkal Posts: 1,018
    edited December 1969

    I have indeed begun shopping at other stores. Their sales have actually had prices I could afford. It used to be that they were not in my price range. Now Daz, sadly, appears to be moving into that category.

    I have to laugh thinking about how drugs began being given away freely in the 60's to get people hooked and then they began having to pay and now prices are even higher.

    Is Daz a drug?

  • diogenese19348diogenese19348 Posts: 927
    edited December 1969

    Well, Dell Precision T5500's are coming off lease, and I picked one up - 2 quad core Xeons. Stuck 72 gigs of ram in the thing, with a pair of EVGA's SLI video cards I had on my old box. Spent a total of $1000 on the project. Sooo... the sale was going to have to be pretty spectacular to get me interested since my wallet was rather depleted this month. And we end up with one of those "Keep buying or you don't get discounts" sales. *shrug* Wonder if there is going to be a PC sale next month, or if they just kinda sorta combined the two. Fortunately it was the wrong type of sale for me this month, it made it easy for me to opt out.

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,497
    edited December 1969

    Wonder if there is going to be a PC sale next month, or if they just kinda sorta combined the two. Fortunately it was the wrong type of sale for me this month, it made it easy for me to opt out.

    Yes, there will be a PC Anniversary sale as per usual.

    As a side note, I used to have a T7500 I think it was, but they were built like tanks and worked like a charm, so you're set :)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited September 2014

    Mei Lin is indeed a new upcoming G2F icon. The speculative consensus is that she will be Lee's partner, something far more ethnically realistic than Aiko. :)

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  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Interesting, considering a number of characters for Aiko are attempting/will attempt to make her more realistic.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Mei Lin is indeed a new upcoming G2F icon. As suspected, the speculative consensus is that she will be Lee's partner, something far more ethnically realistic than Aiko. :)

    This is of course pure speculation at this point

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited December 1969

    Interesting, considering a number of characters for Aiko are attempting/will attempt to make her more realistic.

    That's what I said over in the PC Members forum. I honestly think characters like Lotus and Lin are very realistic-looking, even with A6's toony base in the formula. But most of us think that Mei Lin will differ A6 more in genre-execution rather than appearance distinction.
  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,801
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    Mei Lin is indeed a new upcoming G2F icon. As suspected, the speculative consensus is that she will be Lee's partner, something far more ethnically realistic than Aiko. :)

    This is of course pure speculation at this point
    Of course, as even I point that out.

    Though, someone did PM me the ReadMe for her general poses the other day before it was pulled.

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Kind of surprised that there haven't been more characters in the opposite direction, actually. Especially for the excellent Girl 6, who could make for some amazing new cartoonish looks. She's literally Pixar quality!

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401
    edited December 1969

    Greetings,

    Kind of surprised that there haven't been more characters in the opposite direction, actually. Especially for the excellent Girl 6, who could make for some amazing new cartoonish looks. She's literally Pixar quality!
    Actually, I'm kind of hoping 3DUniverse is going to have another girl this PA sale. Their characters are heavy on the cartoon, but amazingly wonderful quality. For whatever reason I didn't like Eclypse as much as Kimberly. (Similarly I liked Jasmin more than Jazlyn, but Amy was really popular with my eldest boy.)

    Anyway, Eclypse came out in April, so I think 3DU is due for another any time now. :)

    -- Morgan

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