Current GPU Cost and Availability Issues
IceCrMn
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Well, it finally happened.GPUs have crossed the $5,000 each mark
This 24GB 3090 is currently on sale at newegg for $5,450
At the current rate of price (scalping) inflation, we could see the 3090 hit something around $20,000 before the end of the year.
There's even an 8GB AMD RX 5700 XT up right now for $3,999.00
https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-axrx-5700xt-8gbd6-3dhe-oc/p/N82E16814131752
Sadly there's actually a market for these in this price range.I don't see an end to this problem any time soon.
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Boy, I feel a lot less dumb about buying my 2080ti last spring now.
That's very unfortunate. I read the other day that Nvidia is going to be turning the gpu power down by half when miners attempt to use them for mining crypto currency to prevent them from buying the new gpus in bulks and driving the prices up.
That's not for sale from Newegg...it's from a 3rd party. Granted, like Amazon did with toilet paper scalpers, Newegg should kill the add and ban the scalper. Hopefully they will start doing that.
I've read on redit, and tomshardware that several stores have already increase the introductory price of the new 3060 due out tomorrow by as much as 4x MSRP.
They are 12GB cards roughly comparable to the 6GB 2060 and were supposed to retail for $329.
You're correct.It's not being sold by newegg.
Not really the point I was making :)
I can google up different links, but I'm sure the prices aren't going down anywhere.I just happen to shop at newegg for most of my PC hardware, so that's why I posted the links to the newegg ads.
I shopt at Newegg too, but I only buy from Newegg. Any of the GPU's being sold by Newegg are at MSRP, even the 3090. Granted, you won't find any available...you have to go on a waiting list. But the reason scalpers are charging what they're charging is because people continue to cater to it. Newegg needs to ban those sellers.
I paid 1641 for mine (including carriage). I just watch my usual store; they have stock appearing and going out on a regular basis. At the moment they have none. When I was checking over the course of a few days - whilst deciding which I wanted, they had some in stock every day; probably for about five days in total.
My PC is 7 years old, my dual 1080 Ti's work flawlessly with Iray, they're faster than Reality, and I'm happy.
Would I like to upgrade someday? Yes.
Do I care about being able to upgrade someday? No.
All I can say is wow .That does not sound to promising for the future. Maybe this one of the reason why daz is trying to move to Filament. I think is gonna effect the gamers as well.
I agree newegg really does.
Whatever price those cards were, someone bought them. Out of stock now. It seems the rational and reliable way to buy one of those cards is to buy a computer that has one installed.
I don't think Daz has any plans to "move to Filament". It added an option for people who want to fiddle with it, and there's not been a lot of noise about it for a while now. I can't recall any Daz Original or other figures that have shipped with Filament materials.
Filament wasn't designed to be an alternative to Iray or 3DL for production renders. It's a PBR viewport draw option designed to provide real-time shaded previews of your work before you render them out.
...but if you have an Nvida GPU, why not just use Nvidia View mode? Seems Filament needs a few add ons for features that are already included in Iray.
Because Filament doesn't need processing time like nVidia Iray mode. Any changes you make to your scene are instantly drawn, and you can navigate your scene as smoothly as you do in Texture Shaded mode.
KyotoKid: With my GTX1060 a simple scene can take about 10 seconds to be usably visible in iRay preview mode. In filament it's about 3 seconds. When posing, I must admit neither is fast enough to be usable. So, I use texture preview then pop over to iRay preview to check lighting.
I really hate mining and its artificial greed, to me its just another bubble. Remember when the prices suddenly tanked a few years ago?
And you have really thought, that the recent pandemy will not affect access to GPU and its prices at all!
That is the real life, we all are experiencing by now. Not a surprise for me.
..hear hear.
Thankfully for now i have my Tiitan-X (as long as Nvidia doesn't drop Iray support for Maxwell like they did Fermi and Kepler)..
..the downside, to get Filament I need to install 4.15 which I have heard has some annoying bugs that I really don't care to deal with (the 4.12.0.47 beta release has been surprisingly extremely stable) and which does not support GTX GPUs as well as it does RTX ones. Apologies, I cannot afford even a 20xx card let alone a 30xx one (If I can even find one) and I like being able to render with optitex acceleration off as it consumes more VRAM. I don't find the few moments it takes to refresh on my Titan-X to really be much of a bother like it was when I was still rendering on the CPU. As is, I generally use Texture Shaded mode for the most part and only switch to Iray when I need to check lighting, in render effects (such as fog, smoke, bloom, & such), and camera settings (like DOF) without having to set up test renders.
I remember when I built my current system in August of 2017...I bought my EVGA 1080TI FTW3 at the MSRP of $779.89 when it first came out...no waiting list and right from Amazon (not from a 3rd party). Two months later, the price of that very same GPU went to over $1,200. Boy was I lucky I'd gotten on the lifeboat when I did. Now it's time to build another system from scratch and I just can't even believe how ridiculous the GPU market has gotten. All because of crypto mining.
Between the crypto-rush, PS5 psychosis, and the pandemic-induced scavenger hunt of toilet paper and sanitizer, I've managed to learn one thing - humans as a species are selfish, selfish creatures with only three priorities...me, myself, and I. The entire concept of "just take one so the person behind me can have some too" is a concept lost on the majority.
Filament has proven useful when using a HDRI background...it will render in the preview, so you can freely adjust the dome to line things up rather than having to adjust and wait...adjust and wait...adjust and wait with the Iray preview.
You could always save a copy of your preferred Daz version and then install 4.15 just to try it. I have several versions of the .exe saved...they all use the same content directories.
I wonder how long that will last. If Nvidia is somehow detecting mining activity via it's driver, it won't be long before somebody figures out how to circumvent the restriction.
I've also heard that they're releasing a line of miner-oriented cards, so I'm really hoping that takes the pressure off of the regular GPU cards. I was expecting to build a new system this spring but I've run out of kidneys to sell.
Heh, back in the early days the supermarket was restricting sales of toilet paper to two packages per customer. When I showed up with only one package the cashier was surprised. "You sure you only want to buy one???" Sure, that was enough for me for a while, leave the other package for a bigger family of four or whatever, somebody who needs it more than I do.
The pessimist in me tells me that it won't...because as long as people cater to scalpers, then scalpers will continue to buy up all the product to resell at a premium. Just like the PS5 situation. They don't care if it's miners or gamers they're selling to, as long as they get a payday.
I have Filament on my 4.14 version, which doesn't seem equipped with all the bugs in 4.15.
Regards,
Richard
If you spend half the money into CPU and RAM ...
All of this applies to the 12 Gb 3060 MSRP USD 329 cards that have yet to be released. None of the existing models will get these changes.
..I have IBL Master which lets me see and adjust the positioning of HDRIs in Texture Shaded mode.
Opening a scene in a newer version and making/saving any changes to it will prevent it from opening in an older one.
...however 4.14 is no longer available as it's been superseded by 4.15
The new 12GB RTX 3060 cards were released today at 11am CST. Sold out in seconds.
I signed up for the newegg shuffle, but haven't heard back yet if I get chance to buy one or not.