Making Movies with Daz

WendyLuvsCatz

try these

https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_12194

https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_11999

https://www.daz3d.com/downloader/customer/files#prod_6864
 

Ivy

I do have daz3 installed and still use it now and then just for the FX plugin & dreamlites Movie maker plugin along with other some other light gel plugins for making HDRi's for my iray backgrounds  i have some fx tools that won't work beyond daz studio verison 4.10 like Nerds3D  wave tool and water disk,  the fire & smoke tool, Rain maker. etc all stop working in daz 4,10

But i do have Fludios but i am not very impressed with the fire particale part of it though the water looks pretty good

WendyLuvsCatz

well for Nerd's stuff you can still download 4.5 with my first link if it's in your library and it should be and at least load genesis figures for 3Delight

just stick it in another folder somewhere

Ivy

I have 4.5 already installed so I can still use the nerds 3d stuff  that is what my complaint was I when i said I have to keep multi copies of daz to be able to still use my content , and even though flash is no longr supported in poser . all my older 2009 content will still all load and work in poser12 and i started with poser7

 as you can see i was not kidding when i said i have 7 versions of daz studio installed . I just loaded them all but 4.12 beta & took a screen grab of them .

WendyLuvsCatz

Ivy said:

I have 4.5 already installed so I can still use the nerds 3d stuff  that is what my complaint was I when i said I have to keep multi copies of daz to be able to still use my content , and even though flash is no longr supported in poser . all my older 2009 content will still all load and work in poser12 and i started with poser7

 as you can see i was not kidding when i said i have 7 versions of daz studio installed . I just loaded them all & took a screen grab of them ..lol

I have mine on different computers at least  

I have Poser 7 on one too

and there is a fix on HW3D and Renderosity for the flash issue with later builds

Ivy

I have all mine 3d app accept zbrush loaded onto one external 1tb SSD drive, so i can access them all.  but yeah It can be a pain having to keep all these copies with matching plugin for the versions .   but if you want to make animation with daz studio and still be able to use all the older tools  & content then its kind of necessary to keep so many copies. I wish it weren't that way. 

Ivy

@WendyLuvsCatz did you keep a copy of flash installed for poser7 menus to work?  because my poser10 menus stopped working once I uninstalled adobe flash and I have 2 older fantasy canyon sets that are pz3 & only work in poser 10 python or older versions that Lisa B gave me many years ago   how did you work around the poser/Adobe flash end of life issue?

WendyLuvsCatz

P7 doesn't use Flash so I am OK

otherwise 

https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2956792

RorrKonn

Ivy you seem very dedicated to making videos. Might I humbly suggest blender bridge.

Ivy

@WendyLuvsCatz Thanks I do not know how i missed that thread.

@RorrKonn I am already using it. & UE as well. I've been trying learn them for about 4 months now, since blender v2.8.  But I have been working with poser and daz longer than Blender and i have a lot of content, so some habits are hard to break.

 Yall will like this one

RorrKonn

Over the decades I've used most at one time or other.you get use to new apps faster.im learning blender now it's same as all the other apps just got to know where what is.youtube has endless blender tutorails.learn a main app like blender and your 3d world will go from a planet to a universe .its so worth the effort. I've always considered daz poser main app plugins

Llola Lane

Ivy said:

What type of animations you guys making?

I only use 24 kfps for animated textures or scene within a scene type animation. other wise I do all my animations at 30kfps when using daz studio. .I think it makes for a much smoother natural animation IMO  .especially if you post work fx into the animation.  Render times do not bother me I guess as much as it does some of you guys,   its part of the nature of the type of animation I make.   poser 12 is much slower than daz iray and so far I found with my inexperience that rendering in blender to not be any faster than what I am getting with iray for the quality of the animation. I can render in real time 10x faster in Unreal  but I can't get the daz asset into the UE program so thats no good for my type animations 

So really I guess it does depend on the type of animation your looking to make & the wrench time you want to put in to make it. I don't feel there is really is no right or wrong to making a animation.  you could use hand drawn images if you really wanted to go that route..  The important thing is to post them so we can all enjoy them

This one is done with Iray . it took 11 days I made it for a Renderosity  holiday contest,  I was getting 12 seconds a frame with 2 -1080ti's.   1920x1080 HD running at 30kfps a totally of a 11,723 keyframes or PNG images. put together in Adobe premier cs6.

click to play best viewed in 1080

You make the BEST movies Ivy... I love every one you make ;)  Keep up the great work... Stay safe... Hugzzzzzzz 

Ivy

Llola Lane said:

Ivy said:

What type of animations you guys making?

I only use 24 kfps for animated textures or scene within a scene type animation. other wise I do all my animations at 30kfps when using daz studio. .I think it makes for a much smoother natural animation IMO  .especially if you post work fx into the animation.  Render times do not bother me I guess as much as it does some of you guys,   its part of the nature of the type of animation I make.   poser 12 is much slower than daz iray and so far I found with my inexperience that rendering in blender to not be any faster than what I am getting with iray for the quality of the animation. I can render in real time 10x faster in Unreal  but I can't get the daz asset into the UE program so thats no good for my type animations 

So really I guess it does depend on the type of animation your looking to make & the wrench time you want to put in to make it. I don't feel there is really is no right or wrong to making a animation.  you could use hand drawn images if you really wanted to go that route..  The important thing is to post them so we can all enjoy them

This one is done with Iray . it took 11 days I made it for a Renderosity  holiday contest,  I was getting 12 seconds a frame with 2 -1080ti's.   1920x1080 HD running at 30kfps a totally of a 11,723 keyframes or PNG images. put together in Adobe premier cs6.

click to play best viewed in 1080

You make the BEST movies Ivy... I love every one you make ;)  Keep up the great work... Stay safe... Hugzzzzzzz 

@Llola Lane (((Blush)))  Thank you so much for being a fan 

SasquatchIsCool

I love your work as well.  It has been fun to watch and follow.    You are able to do a 15 minute animation a month?  What if you had mocap?  How fast could you produce?

tsarist

Ivy said:

Sevrin said:

It would depend on who's giving the lessons, what work they've done themselves, and whether they have experience teaching.

Indeed.   I would want to see experience the person teaching has & do they have a portfolio of demos and films to show theyr film style.

 

I'm really not all that picky. I'm interested in WHAT is being taught. Full stop.

If someone has something to teach, I'm interested.

tsarist

Ivy said:

I have 4.5 already installed so I can still use the nerds 3d stuff  that is what my complaint was I when i said I have to keep multi copies of daz to be able to still use my content , and even though flash is no longr supported in poser . all my older 2009 content will still all load and work in poser12 and i started with poser7

 as you can see i was not kidding when i said i have 7 versions of daz studio installed . I just loaded them all but 4.12 beta & took a screen grab of them .

So, Nerds3d stuff doesn't run on newer Daz versions?

I hope his stuff runs on Carrara 8.5

By the way, Ivy, I really enjoyed that plane animation Great lighting (always have trouble with that). Excellent use of sound effects!

Sevrin

tsarist said:

Ivy said:

Sevrin said:

It would depend on who's giving the lessons, what work they've done themselves, and whether they have experience teaching.

Indeed.   I would want to see experience the person teaching has & do they have a portfolio of demos and films to show theyr film style.

 

I'm really not all that picky. I'm interested in WHAT is being taught. Full stop.

 

If someone has something to teach, I'm interested.

Well, if you don't care about the quality of the teaching, that expands your options exponentially. 

tsarist

Sevrin said:

tsarist said:

Ivy said:

Sevrin said:

It would depend on who's giving the lessons, what work they've done themselves, and whether they have experience teaching.

Indeed.   I would want to see experience the person teaching has & do they have a portfolio of demos and films to show theyr film style.

 

I'm really not all that picky. I'm interested in WHAT is being taught. Full stop.

 

If someone has something to teach, I'm interested.

Well, if you don't care about the quality of the teaching, that expands your options exponentially. 

No. I care about the quality of the teaching but I also realise there's not an army of information about Daz or Carrara out there.

Yes, if I was trying to learn 3DMax or ZBrush, I could get an army of teachers who have worked on 200 or 300 million dollar productions. Yeah, they exist. So, I could afford to be picky.

With Daz or Carrara, any teacher can teach me SOMETHING.

Artini

Ivy said:

@WendyLuvsCatz Thanks I do not know how i missed that thread.

@RorrKonn I am already using it. & UE as well. I've been trying learn them for about 4 months now, since blender v2.8.  But I have been working with poser and daz longer than Blender and i have a lot of content, so some habits are hard to break.

 Yall will like this one

Very nicely done.

 

Pennyfarman

Do you have any YouTube animations we can watch to see your work? You claimed that a minute per frame was excellent, but is it true after optimizing the scene for HD? In 4K format, it takes me two minutes per frame. HD is becoming less and less relevant as 4k is the new standard. I converted the HD format to 4K, but the quality was still acceptable. I get a much better quality rendering in 4K.

Silver Dolphin

Why, do you want to animate something? That is the first question you need to answer. The second is do you have the resources for example: money, software, hardware, time? If you want to make a short scene with a few characters I  would look outside of Daz Studio and use a game engine to animate. If you want the full meal deal to make a motion picture, that is alot of work and is it worth it? I would first take some animation classes and learn what you are getting yourself into. There is also classes on story development, character development, script developement ect.  As a long time Lightwave user I can tell you animation is not easy to do well. Is it worth it, sure if you love 3D it is the culmination of 3D. Instead of just jumping in blind I would find someone who does this professionally and ask their opinion on what you should learn and take  it from there. Good Luck.

WendyLuvsCatz

odysseyowl said:

Do you have any YouTube animations we can watch to see your work? You claimed that a minute per frame was excellent, but is it true after optimizing the scene for HD? In 4K format, it takes me two minutes per frame. HD is becoming less and less relevant as 4k is the new standard. I converted the HD format to 4K, but the quality was still acceptable. I get a much better quality rendering in 4K.

there are ai upscalers like GFPgan, Topaz Megapixel AI, Waifu2XCaffe etc

also how detailed do you need the background to be? does it even need to be in focus? depth of field is a powerful narrative tool in moviemaking

 

Timotheus

SasquatchIsCool said:

So how many of you would like to make a movie using DAZ 3d characters but don't know where to start? What if you had lessons showing you how to make a movie from start to finish and give it a cool style all your own?  Just seeing if anyone interested in that type of thing?

I'm interested. Daz Studio and/or Blender.

Tim

SasquatchIsCool

Timotheus said:

SasquatchIsCool said:

So how many of you would like to make a movie using DAZ 3d characters but don't know where to start? What if you had lessons showing you how to make a movie from start to finish and give it a cool style all your own?  Just seeing if anyone interested in that type of thing?

I'm interested. Daz Studio and/or Blender.

Tim

So awesomme!

Ryder

RorrKonn said:

It would take 300 years to render a iray 2 hour Movie on a home pc. To make a home made movie.im thinking eevvee

Sounds about right.

WendyLuvsCatz

Ryder said:

RorrKonn said:

It would take 300 years to render a iray 2 hour Movie on a home pc. To make a home made movie.im thinking eevvee

Sounds about right.

depends entirely on your settings 

Denoiser can be used with 10 iterations a frame if you only use Dome for lighting 

if not translating the camera you can even use just a HDRI and optionally a background  

you can rotate the camera with a panoramic HDRI