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Jack Tomalin: I have only once had it suggested that the discount would be much more than a dollar or two. That once, I think it was over $10. Certainly not eough to begin to pay for a PC+ membership. As a way of letting people know what the PC+ price is, it really isn't very good: There is no easily visible statement of what the PC+ price is on items that never get into my cart. There would be if it stated the PC+ price elsewhere - say in the wishlist or [shock-horror] on the sale page.
For my normal access to the DS website (Android 9, Chrome) I understand the browser addon is unavailable (I have asked several times if there is one that works for my version of Android & Chrome). For my PC access to the DS site, it's through a work controlled PC, and browser addons are prevented by admin. So the PC+ prices are invisible to me.
Regards,
Richard.
It's worth being a member if:
1. Make sure there is sufficient discount when buying it; I go for at least 50%.
2. One only purchases items that would have been bought at full price.
To be worth the claim of x% discount, they have to compete with similar items released.
Generation characters are woefully over-priced IMO, and don't even include an HD - and whilst they are invariably very good - similar to Raiya's or Bleujaunte's in some instances, they aren't worth the price difference. The fact the discount brings them down is irrelavent imo. Increases to discount is just plain wrong.
well being a pc member really helps me as being Australian once you convert the prices to our money it is pretty expensive so the pc discount helps me greatly otherwise doubt beable to afford much not that I can anyways but it helps still prices do seem to be going up so have by passed few things for now. Hopefully their are no plans on changing the $6 coupons and their limits what you can use them on the $6 off $18 can be stretch sometimes to find something can afford so if a stacking deal comes up that allows it I use that asp the $6 of DO stuff can usually find something
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not seeing the PC+ price when I was not a member helped considerably in saving money
other PA products looked far more tempting on sale, I barely touched any DAZ originals
I for one am getting tired of paying for a membership that promises one thing and then gets changed mid subscription.It is begining to look more and more likely that I will be swapping over to Prime membership in Oct when my PC+ plan expires. Raising the prices of PC+ items and then offering freebies that have poly counts that are just rediculous or they shouldn't have passed QC to begin with. The writing on the wall with the price increases and everything else this last month has come into very sharp focus.
Honestly, yes I see and ignore that in the cart - I would have to do the math, as it only tells me how much I would have saved for the whole cart ... adding a single item, look at the saving, do the math by substracting that price from the price of the item ... sorry, no.
I was a PC+ member for many, many years. I stopped because real life hit me and I didn't have time for rendering (I know, why render, just shopping should be enough
).
Nowadays I have more time, but I found that the prices for PC+ items have been going too high for my liking.
Like I said: I was a PC member in the days when they were 1.99 and later. I didn't like the hike to 2.99 and 3.99 and yes, I remember the promise that only complicated sets (like yours) will go to 5.99 ...
The DO savings for PC members? Sure, but I can wait until the things I want are showing up in FastGrab ...
Prices are living things, they grow, Like kittens.
The youn'uns are adorable and you just want to take them home. But then they grow up and become cats.
Sounds like a bad case of "Creeping Costs".
Possibly more of Creeping Covid Costs that I have noticed in my purchasing in the real world over the past 14 months.
I use PC for adding a new release to trigger a discount, coupon codes and the benefits that you get on regular orders. for example, you can pick up daz originals for a better price, freebies and of course, the few monthly sales where PC+ is certainly an advantage. I rarely buy the PC+ items because they are too expensive. (I can create 10 poses in an afternoon, so I can't justify spending $3.99 on it.) But for all those reasons mentioned above, the PC membership is still great value.
Now if I look at my Daz library as opposed to the other stores, I have bought 53 pages of goods at Daz and less than 1 from the competition. the reason for this is that I am an impulse buyer, so I tend to buy things because they are cheap, not because I want them. So there are certain items that I would never buy for $7.99 simply because I will never use them in a render and have no use for them, but, should they drop to $1.99, I suddenly can't resist. I still will never use them, but I find a way to justify it. This is why I have never even installed about 90% of my library. (I point this out for those who don't like to discount their items. You are missing out on the impulse buys which accounts for most of my budget by far, and I'm sure there are others like me.)
Perhaps this is what Daz is hoping for. They charge a price that will support the creators, and make it worthwhile to put the extra effort in, and then every now and again, once the item is no longer bringing in as much money as before, they will have a huge sale and catch the rest of us who weren't really interested in the item anyway. This is where PC+ is well worth it. You can still get cheap PC+ items if you keep an eye out during the sales.
If you add the PC membership to your cart, it then treats you as though you were a PC member, so you can see all the individual discounts. This is a quick and easy way to see how much each item will end up costing.
Actually Renderosity Prime is expensive for me because the Prime prices aren't that great and not on the Wishlist that I have. Their IA licenses prices are still out of touch too. The sellers need to realize their biggest market for that IA stuff isn't Microsoft, Apple, or UE4 corporates with money to burn but hobby folk accumulating models for making games. Paying more for a game IA license that what the model product cost is non-sensiscal when people making games aren't any more likely to make money from games as a person making a 2D rendered graphic novel.
Same here. Pretty annoying.
I prefer buying stuff that's within the themes I'm usually interested in, so, for me, that means I'm always taking a look at sci-fi stuff, but generally skip horror, creatures, baroque and steam-punk products. I might investigate whether the latter could be adapted to something I could use, but generally speaking, I ignore them.
That said, I did find a lot of useful stuff between the recent PC+ releases. Some more useful than others, some better quality, others slightly less, but overall, I'm pretty happy with what I got.
Today I was pretty ecstatic when I saw it had shiny cyber-style iray materials for the ancient GIS Nova environment, at only $2.09. Just what I was seeing in my mind whenever I saw that set, but which would take me months (with my lousy photoshop skills) to make myself. Now, I don't know what hourly wages are around the world, but $2.09 is way less than what I earn in an hour, and it would take me months, aka several hundred hours, to make such materials myself.
Another PC+ release today is some 70's style futuristic house. Totally suits my interest, especially since it is more in the rare utopian sci-fi style than the fairly common dystopian sci-fi style. I didn't try it out yet, and I'm sure it'll have its quirks that I'll simply have to get used to, but overall, I'm happy with it.
And yes, there are weeks that I have no interest in the new additions of PC+, simply because they fall outside my interest. But, when they're within my scope of intertest, I can usually work with whatever limitations they might have. Same as about any other product in store, some are great, others are fairly limited in their use. I don't see any product in store as plug-and-play. I see them as an asset for creativity that still needs some moulding. Sometimes the moulding is just a matter of putting an outfit on a figure and posing it, other times it needs a bit more work, with re-shades, re-textures, moving a few polygons around, and whatever else is within my abilities. It's a matter of seeing how far you go applying your own creativity.
Man I'm actually surprised at anyone talking positively about how renderosity lists their prime prices. The fact that they list prime prices as you're browsing regardless of membership and you don't know what you are actually going to pay until you click the product is straight up the main reason I rarely shop there, as I find it... Less than fully upfront. List prices should be what I am going to pay - not what I'll pay if I also buy something else.
If I see something listed 7.99! 50% off! And I click and find no it's 15.98 and not on sale at it all, but it could be if I just bought Prime. That doesn't *remotely* increase my desire to buy Prime. It lowers my desire to ever shop there.
pc scifi stuff is the only chance to find poser versions. i'm on poser 11 now. not see any with cycles shaders,
The complete politic of DAZ has changed, started with the Bundles, who are not longer the bundles we have prefered, up to higher prices for the PC+ items and now the 'You don't know what you get'- idea of the season pass.
Meanwhile I find more interesting content on the other site as here. Maybe it's possible that I don't pay for a another year of PC+-membership here. I'm sure, if DAZ continous the current way a lot of users just buy here some basics and look more in other shops.
Agree. Context is something that i don't think they paid attention when they look at their numbers.
I also find the items at PC+ are not cheap enough. I only end up buing as a trigger or during big sale when additional discounts stack or older stuff get significan (and proper) discounts.
It is sad that because PC rearely allows for other discounts to stack Non PC items are very often cheaper.
I find prime a little odd. First, like you say, prime prices are not that good; usually on par of the regular artists sales at 50%, sometimes during those the prime price ends up being more than regular.
Second is the that they don't actually say what you actually get. Is like, a coupon and sometimes couponS, with PC we know exactly what the coupon grant, when to use it, etc. So i can't even know how much money will i need to spend (on artists that accept coupon, many do not) on a year and if i will have restrictions as to when can i use each coupon.
And last is the price. Certainly $30 per year is not that much, but there are no freebies included. If you asked me last year, well, getting yearly PC here with the many allowed discount was less than that and you get 5+ freebies and 2 coupons. Easy to recover.
Now, even with those caveats I'm certainly still interested to try it, more than i'm interested in renewal of PC+. I'm growing my whislist there so i guess that eventually will find a way to compensate the $30.
Actually, there is a monthly prime freebie - you can find it in the Prime Forum
Can't find any way to see what the freebie is for Prime this month. Are they any good?
I remember when it was cheaper than that, and nothing cost more than .99. But evven then (back in the early 2000's) prices starting going up, and I exited the PC Club without a look back.
Still don't regret it.
..Joe
April's not up yet, but March is a vehicle by 1971s. It looks cool (haven't installed it yet)
It varies - quite a few of them are only Poser (or both programs), and it depends on who makes it of course; I'd say the PC+ freebies are more useful to me on the whole, but others may have a different view.
Totally forgot about that. Another plus for prime.
Now, never actually saw one to get an idea of what to expect of it. I guess is posted in the private prime forum?
It's not rocket science.
The first time you click on a product and see the lower Prime price in blue and other prices not in blue, you should catch on. I purchased Prime right away and have always found it worthwhile. Besides, it has some great stuff you can't buy elsewhere, as witnessed by the number of Rendo items used by Daz PAs in their promos.
Yes, it is
I dropped Prime a while back, simply because it worked quite inconvenient. Freebies hidden on the forum, coupons hidden somewhere in an e-mail. I missed quite a few of those freebies, and several coupons expired.
And, the coupons, while definitely nice, just wouldn't apply to all products. Artists have to specifically enable (or disable, not sure which) coupons to be applicable for their products. The biggest draw to me for Prime was the point-rewards system they had. Saving up 5,000 points and then exchanging them for a $50 giftcard definitely feels like a present. But it simply doesn't compare to the convenience of PC+ benefits.
But, speaking of convenience, something that is way more convenient over at Rendo, is the search function, and having all those checkboxes on the side to filter the results. I wouldn't mind Rendo borrowing the convenience features of Daz PC+, while Daz gets to borrow the search and filtering features from Rendo in exchange.
It is a valid point, certainly a problem. But between that and not having a clue of current discounts because the store can't keep it stright between price before cart, price in cart and triggers and no clue about deadlines.....
It is way easier to spot (and skip) Prime that playing cart yenga and needing to follow a special thread too keep up with errors.
I'm not so fussed about the shopping experience. It's all about the dollar savings with me. Between Rewards, Prime items, and the coupons, I easily save the annual membership, which works out to USD 2.50 a month, on items I want and use in a month or two easily. I apply the same criteria to Platinum Club membership. OTOH, I hardly ever shop at the naughty store, so never bothered with membership there.