Please fix the annoying feature when quoting someone
Novica
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We complained about it in the store changeover thread and perhaps it got overlooked.
Whenever we reply to a post in the forums, now that opens in a page by itself and you can't reference any of the other posts. You can't see what was posted so all you have is the one person's post you are replying to. (EDIT- As the thread moved along, it became clear I needed to say when QUOTING someone. Sorry I didn't describe it properly.)
When is this going to be fixed please?
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I am sorry I just don't understand what you mean. I start typing a reply and I can see all the rest of the posts on the thread page, and can copy and paste parts of them into my reply.
You honestly can't tell the difference between quoting before the Storepocalypse and now?
PS: Replying to a post <> replying to a thread.
Testing. I haven't experienced this problem so it may be your browser settings.
If you just type a reply, you can see the previous posts. But when you click the "Quote" button, the forum takes you to a new page.
One option, which I hardly ever remember to use, is to open the post in a new window/tab (right-click on the timestamp) and do the quoting there, so that you still have the original thread in a separate tab/window.
My bad- should have been clearer and said "whenever quoting someone." (thank you @ati for helping to clarify.) Yes, whenever you reply, aka, type a new message, you are on the same page. It's whenever you quote someone that you end up in the isolation ward. AKA like right now, quoting you, I am on a page all by my lonesome.
I changed the title of the thread to "quoting" instead of "replying to."
That's an idea, thank you Richard. :) But can you poke the powers-that-be and ask them to return the quoting feature to the way it was before the store/site changeover?
Sightly OT but related:
It would be nice to if they could re-instate the "folding up" of quote trees. Some of the threads have posts where you need to page down three of four times to get to the latest remark through voluminous multiple quotes, especially those with a string of images posted and requoted. There's a place in our profiles where you can specify at what point quotes should be "folded up" but as far a I can see it doesn't work at all.
Interesting, I never noticed that setting...
I add my voice for this to be returned to the old way.
But what I really want returned to the old way is the store search. For years we have tolerated a forum search that doesn't work. But now we are given a store search that doesn't work, and the best I can get in terms of a response is Jack's "assumption" months ago that it is now a priority.
Ah I understand now, Quoting is indeed most annoying now.
I'd love it if when I quoted someone I didn't have to carriage return / turn off quote.
I don't know if this is happening to anyone else... If I quote then start typing, whatever I type becomes part of the quote.I have to create a section break (of sorts) to be able to type.
On a unrelated / related note... It would also be nice if the forum didn't double post replies every three or four messages. And wouldn't cloudflare on replies every five or six messages.
you need to move your mouse cursor over the extreme bottom right of the quoted post and click on the red enter arrow icon that occurs there. That takes you outside the quoted area to start typing.
I've never seen forum software that required such arcane techniques.
Which, by the way, don't work unless you first click in the quoted text, then hover over the right corner as you describe. When you hover over then the invisible red arrow becomes visible.
And, until you pointed it out, I had no idea that it even existed.
Likewise, many forum members appear to be unaware that they can edit their posts, as witnessed by frequent related multiple posts, because the little cogwheel that provides the option to edit is invisible unless you hover over it, and there's nothing to tell the uninitiated that there's anything there.
It gets really wonky on my iPad (in Safari, Chome or Firefox)... in general, you need to hit return two or three times... or just once... or sometimes a reddish editing highlighting thing appears once you tap return and there is no way to get out of that as you can hit return a million times and whatever you type will still be part of the quote, and the only recourse is to close out the window and try again.
The other thing I noticed with the quote text box opening up on a separate page, is it appears that it doesn't seem to automatically save a draft of what you are writing... several times I've either accidentally closed the window or there's been a Cloudflare and the post is gone forever... as opposed to before when quoting was on the same page as the rest of the thread and auto save seemed to work.
Yes... It's completely invisible on an iPad unless you rotate the screen to portrait mode or tap the screen where it should be because you know that's where it is.
Its funny (but not in a funny way), that since 2012, most of us long time forumites have grown accustomed to adapting to whatever breaks.
Which is unfortunate since a lot, if not most of DAZ's problem solving occurs in the forums, but the forums software still kinda has a 2001 feel to it.
Yes, posts being repeated are annoying, particularly with a huge image repeated over and over and over again in a thread. It's just better for folks reading on mobile devices (and less annoying for the rest of us) to use forum ettiquette which reduces the image you're referencing, and only post the relevant snippets of the post, not the entire thing.
For those who don't know how- to reduce the size of the image you're quoting, click on the image you're referring to, then the image box (that mountain with sun) and be sure the height and width are locked so if you change one, you change the other. 250 pixels for height gives a good representation of the larger, original picture. The rest of us thank you for doing it!
If you get stuck on how to take out some of the people's quotes in those "stacking" quotes, notice the "Source" above the textbox. Click it. You can then manually take out the < blockquote > section (and be sure and take out the </ blockquote > as well and everything in between which you want gone. Then hit source again and you'll see that person's contribution is gone. But be careful. Be SURE you take out the person's name, or you may be attributing quotes to the wrong person. This is just a workaround to the stacking problem.
Most modern forums have functions in place that collapse quotes and prevent quoted text from being modified. Why these functions are overlooked here just baffles me.
As I understand, because of the Daz site integration, a more modern forum software could not be used out of the box without very heavy modifications.
That was how the forums worked, and allowed multi-quoting, but then something went wrong so that quotes soemtimes stopped the whole page from loading and the fix was apparently the present system. Whether it will be possible to restore the old functionality without the new bug, and how high a priority it would be, I don't know.
I know it's just the technical writer in me... but I absolutely hate that "quotes" aren't locked. If you're quoting something, you shouldn't have the opportunity to modify someone else's words.
Certainly it would be relatively easy to go back and check for the original words used, but it just feels wrong.
Anyway, I've derailed the conversation enough. I'm just particularly annoyed with all of the duplicate posts and cloudflare errors recently.
What would be the priority now? We haven't had any changes since the gallery was brought back, other than the inadvertent fix to the blue banner (overlapping with the field below it) when NFT was added and the forum was changed to a submenu.
Without the option to modify a quote, one often would have to quote a wall of text to just a "yes, I agree" instead of really quoting only the relevant part one agrees to. Kinda like I did with this post, only quoting the part that was relevant.
The posts are repeated because sometimes the page is slow, hitting the "Post Comment" at that point makes duplicates. Just wait a while, or copy the text you wrote and refresh the page to see if the post did go through or is still waiting to be sent - The copying just incase the page didn't remember the whole text.
The post isn't apparently sent when the "Post Comment" button is faded.
True. And I have seen it where you can delete portions, but you can't remove the formatting or change the actual text. I.e you can't remove paragraphs to form a quote to say something it didn't.
I know it's nit picky, but its one of those "the source is sancrescent" things that gets drilled into your head when proofing / validating things.
This hasn't actually been true for me.
All of my duplicate posts have been a result of either a cloudflare error or the forum taking a really long time to respond without any user intervention. My experiences have been that it happens when the forum thinks or did lose connection momentarily, then repeats the inputed data.
Lots of forums include backlinks to quoted posts, so that readers can easily view the original. That eliminates the need for locking quotes, and allows others to discreetly correct mistakes. Some forums also disable editing after certain amount of time has passed.
Naa... You don't have anything to worry about... only a really evil or deranged person would do that.
Oh and thanks for the compliment!